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Quit crying about the refs

Power of Purple

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Just stop it. Frogs had a chance to tie on the last play in regulation. Walk away from the board for a few days if you half to just stop bringing up the refs. Had nothing to do with it. Make that catch and you get to OT.
 

Frogs1983

Full Member
Our constant 3 and outs entire first half is what lost this game.O finally decided to play some ball 1/2 way through 3rd quarter and 4th quarter.Too little too late.
 

Horny 4 Life

Active Member
+4

We need to start playing at a level that neutralizes any missed calls by the refs. If you play enough of these close games then you're going to get calls that go against you. Remove all doubt.
 

geno

Active Member
Just stop it. Frogs had a chance to tie on the last play in regulation. Walk away from the board for a few days if you half to just stop bringing up the refs. Had nothing to do with it. Make that catch and you get to OT.

Somehow I missed the ruling that Power of Purple has authority to tell us what to talk about. Did Power of Purple see the replay of the "missed" field goal? Just stop it, Power of Purple, just stop it.
 

BigPurple87

Active Member
Long time frog fan and I hate the big 12 refs as much as the next guy and they definitely screwed us all year and cost us the tech game but in this game, the fg was a miss, it was definitely holding and the pass defense on the last play looked legit.
 

geno

Active Member
Long time frog fan and I hate the big 12 refs as much as the next guy and they definitely screwed us all year and cost us the tech game but in this game, the fg was a miss, it was definitely holding and the pass defense on the last play looked legit.

"Long time frog fan..." with three posts to his/her name! Hmmm, somehow smell OU!
 

Pharm Frog

Full Member
You make the same point over and over and over in earlier threads...and now you choose to start your own vanity thread on your pet point. I get it. Refs didn't cost us anything. This game and all others preceding it were officiated with Six-Sigma-like zero defects and any perceived errors are to be dismissed summarily since a sufficient number of fairly adjudicated plays existed to overcome said errors. Thus, a gag order must be put in place to silence discussion. I will pass along your wisdom to the Georgia fans right now who are expressing their discontent with a no-call on a blatant roughing the passer penalty that just led to an Alabama lead at the half.

FWIW -- it was a hold. No doubt about it. Had the same been called from Q1, I would be perfectly content (and the game would still be going on and perhaps only just now starting the 4th quarter). ESPN has a little different take on the field goal in their recap (saying that it appeared that the ball was inside the post). And I never thought the last pass attempt was DPI. I did however like the take-down of our receiver on the play that preceded the 35-yarder to White. The blitz was picked up and the double-move was about to work when our receiver was hauled down on the OU sideline....TB had to throw it away. Had the flag been thrown there, the commentators would have been crowing about how smart the DB was to commit the foul instead of giving up six. In the meantime, if you don't want us to type about officiating, perhaps a better solution would be for you to stop reading.
 

Purple Daze

New Member
You make the same point over and over and over in earlier threads...and now you choose to start your own vanity thread on your pet point. I get it. Refs didn't cost us anything. This game and all others preceding it were officiated with Six-Sigma-like zero defects and any perceived errors are to be dismissed summarily since a sufficient number of fairly adjudicated plays existed to overcome said errors. Thus, a gag order must be put in place to silence discussion. I will pass along your wisdom to the Georgia fans right now who are expressing their discontent with a no-call on a blatant roughing the passer penalty that just led to an Alabama lead at the half.

FWIW -- it was a hold. No doubt about it. Had the same been called from Q1, I would be perfectly content (and the game would still be going on and perhaps only just now starting the 4th quarter). ESPN has a little different take on the field goal in their recap (saying that it appeared that the ball was inside the post). And I never thought the last pass attempt was DPI. I did however like the take-down of our receiver on the play that preceded the 35-yarder to White. The blitz was picked up and the double-move was about to work when our receiver was hauled down on the OU sideline....TB had to throw it away. Had the flag been thrown there, the commentators would have been crowing about how smart the DB was to commit the foul instead of giving up six. In the meantime, if you don't want us to type about officiating, perhaps a better solution would be for you to stop reading.

Amen and a few hallelujah's for good measure. Besides the obvious misses you discuss, I submit that there were at least three holds just as blatant, in plain sight that were ignored. The highlight that CBS just ran at half has one of them with the OU LT bear hugging and turning McFarland that secured the edge and was the jumping off point for the the long TD run that followed. Yes, it would have been a devastating penalty for OU but it had a huge impact on the outcome of that play and it was allowed. I contend that if the refs establish that they are going to let them play then let them play. Foltz's was no worse than #69's never called discretions.

Of course, if that would have been say Tausch, Fry, Foltz or whomever with an OU player mounted and throwing punches then I have no doubt he would have been tossed. Stuff like that is hard to accept.
 

back_in_black

Moderators
QB play and OCoordinators putting our QB in 3rd and 8+ is what killed us.

QB play in the second half was great. Then again they called plays where he could get the ball out of his hands quickly which lead to better running plays and the deep passes. Boykin is not the problem, the people calling the plays are the problem. I think Casey matches up well with OU as our line seemed to block good enough in the first half and im sure he would've hit some passes. The problem is when Casey was here against crap opponents this year we didn't look very good. Probably had something to do with the protection as well as the play calling. We can win with either as long as the geniuses up stairs can craft a game plan that utilizes the skills of our players.
 

back_in_black

Moderators
Just stop it. Frogs had a chance to tie on the last play in regulation. Walk away from the board for a few days if you half to just stop bringing up the refs. Had nothing to do with it. Make that catch and you get to OT.

You also have the choice to walk away from the board if you don't agree with something. This is a fan site so you should expect fans to vent about the officiating. It was not good.
 

TCU2002

Active Member
You don't even have to point to the holding play in the final minute to identify three objectively bad instances of officiating today:

1) OU starting OL not ejected for throwing multiple punches. OU should have played the entire second half down a left tackle.

2) Overturning the ruling on the field (incompletion) when Boykin was hit as he threw. TV announcers were stunned that that the crew thought there was convincing video evidence to overturn.

3) Incorrect call on the Okerkrom's first FG attempt in the 2nd half.

This isn't complaining about crooked refs or anything like that. Just three plainly incorrect calls that all went against TCU and had a major impact on the game.
 

ThisIsOurTime

Active Member
Long time frog fan and I hate the big 12 refs as much as the next guy and they definitely screwed us all year and cost us the tech game but in this game, the fg was a miss, it was definitely holding and the pass defense on the last play looked legit.
Actually, there is footage out there showing the field goal was made. I tried to post the photo but this website won't allow it. You can find it on twitter though. As for the holding call, the complaint isn't that it couldn't be technically called holding, but that it has to be extremely blatant to make that call with the game on the line which it was not. It was ticky tack. The officials all but decided the contest with that call and that is inexcusable especially when they did not call holding on Oklahoma all game long. Not once despite several clear opportunities to do so. At the end of the day, people just want consistency and fair play and the officials did not provide that in this game.
 

jake102

Active Member
QB play in the second half was great. Then again they called plays where he could get the ball out of his hands quickly which lead to better running plays and the deep passes. Boykin is not the problem, the people calling the plays are the problem. I think Casey matches up well with OU as our line seemed to block good enough in the first half and im sure he would've hit some passes. The problem is when Casey was here against crap opponents this year we didn't look very good. Probably had something to do with the protection as well as the play calling. We can win with either as long as the geniuses up stairs can craft a game plan that utilizes the skills of our players.

Pachall is far better than Boykin, sorry but there's no denying it. When Boykin is a junior I'm hoping he will be at Pachall's level, but for now, QB play is killing us. We should have been up by 14 by halftime.
 

jake102

Active Member
As for the holding call, the complaint isn't that it couldn't be technically called holding, but that it has to be extremely blatant to make that call with the game on the line which it was not.

I was thinking this as well... kind of like hail mary's and pass interference calls. They made the right call, but you'd wish they would have held the flag at the very end of the game like that. Especially since they hadn't been calling hold all game... a little consistency would have been good.
 

Kaiser

New Member
Just stop it. Frogs had a chance to tie on the last play in regulation. Walk away from the board for a few days if you half to just stop bringing up the refs. Had nothing to do with it. Make that catch and you get to OT.

+4

OL was worse than the refs. Refs weren't bad IMHO.
 
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