Pete Thamel reporting TCU has extended Sonny Dykes’ contract
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BrewingFrog
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Well, we're stuck with him now.
I too think an extension was unnecessary but do you know if this is actually true or not? Don't know if this happened, but he could have had his contract extended and his buyout reduced or relatively unchanged, which wouldn't really change the deal a whole lot relative to his job security.
Well, he's done pretty well. A lot better than most given the resources he's been given.
FroggleRock
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Not really understanding why this was necessary…he had multiple years left on his existing contract. Seems like an unnecessary reallocation of money that could have gone elsewhere. It’s not like anyone in the SEC or BIG was coming to grab him.
To be clear, I like Sonny and think he’s a good CEO type of head coach, but essentially 3 seasons after the NC run, we haven’t even sniffed a Big 12 title or playoff berth.
To be clear, I like Sonny and think he’s a good CEO type of head coach, but essentially 3 seasons after the NC run, we haven’t even sniffed a Big 12 title or playoff berth.
He's like the 30th highest paid coach in the country and we probably have the NIL dollars somewhere in the 30's as well, maybe in the 40's. What should expectations be?
I think there's this thought that he's one of the highest paid guys out there and is totally underachieving. It's just not true.
peacock
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Good point ..we don’t know the terms of the buyout…I hope it’s been lowered but that’s usually never the case!
cdsfrog
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Since 2023 average at best. No way to characterize as good
Well, in our 14 years in the B12, the last two years were our 5th and 6th best years. Probably not good, but we've had a whole lot of not good years around here since 2012. Don't want to hear any crap about this new version of the B12 is so much easier, because it's not. Don't play OU (and UT) anymore, but can't recruit to a conference with OU and UT anymore. It makes a difference. Ask OSU and Baylor about how easy it is to win in this new league.
Big Frog II
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It's all about the NIL now. Maybe the new contract includes updates to the NIL as well as more pay for assistants, etc. I am fine with the deal. When we have had problems with assistants and coordinators he has made changes. That's good. My only beef with him since he's been here was hiring Briles. Now he's gone.
JTFrogFran
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So essentially what you are saying regardless who we hire they will perform the same based on NIL Investment. Not true—every day pretty much doesn’t matter what the Industry is people outperform their peer’s selling or managing all things being equal. I have no doubt other coaches some would have performed better than Sonny and some worse. The key is to compare and hire someone who perform better all things being equal.
West Coast Johnny
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The stakes of getting rid of a head coach have gotten real high under NIL. Get rid of the coach, the good half of the team transfers out.
TopFrog
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We could have way worse. The guy has a NC championship game and back-to-back 9-win seasons, bowl wins. He has made some staff upgrades, new offensive and defensive systems, and hopefully player upgrades.
He is a handful of player bumbles from having B2B 10-12 win seasons.
I am OK with Dykes for now, to have that stability and see if he can get us back into the playoffs, conference title game.
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I think all-in-all he's performed better than his peers over the course of his career here. He had a bad year a few years ago when there was an enormous talent drain due to the previous staff whiffing on two straight recruiting classes. It happens. Matt Campbell went 4-8 in 2022. Kyle Whittingham went 5-7 in 2024.
BrewingFrog
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This is true. There were imbeciles in the Athletic Department who interviewed Neon Deion twice.
I do not hate Sonny, I am ambivalent about him. He pissed me, and a lot of others, off royally with his hire of The Whelp, and though he has since corrected that misstep, that goodwill I had towards the man is still pretty danged low. Yes, he reached a MNC Game, yes he had two winning seasons in a row now, but you know as well as I do the zany swings during those two seasons. It could have been worse, and it could have been better.
Like I said earlier, I am optimistic about the New Guy at OC. I like Avalos at DC. If those two do their jobs as they are capable of, then Sonny can scream at the Officials all game long. We'll win some games, and Buddie will look like a genius. I'll have some fine Whiskey, puff on a fine cigar, and maybe, just maybe, admit I was wrong.
Mean Purple
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you're clowning us, right?
Froggy Style
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Agreed. Continues to make the moves needed to get better on both sides of the ball and have an organized NIL program. If he'd made no moves in the offseason, then I suspect there would be no changes.
Maybe not the best, but he's striving to get there.
I think that complaining that you don't understand is a bit naive to think that you are supposed to have all of the understanding for each decision.
Mean Purple
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if he does not start hitting double digits and conf championships in the next two seasons, we'll be the iowa of the big 12.
minus the ticket sales from bored polka fans.
Mean Purple
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in his defense, he was pretty upset both of the past two seasons regarding several games where there were some very bad play calls late in the game. The new OC and S&C seems to indicate an intent to fix it.
Also, caution over whatever Thamel reports. He has a track record on getting some numbers wrong.
So the buyout could be a change, or there could be committments to NIL/Shared etc.
An-Cap Frog
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18-8 in the last 2 seasons!
