Patterson Article

[DelFrog]

How TCU's Gary Patterson keeps building elite defenses:

Despite struggling to battle regional powers for recruits, Gary Patterson's ability to evaluate and target future defensive stars has helped the Horned Frogs build one of the nation's best defenses.Last Thursday night, all the TCU Horned Frogs did was walk into Austin and soundly defeat the Texas Longhorns there for the first time since 1967, all despite missing 20 players due to attrition.

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[jake102]

Great article. Really good to read about some of those guys.

A guy not getting enough love because of the loaded defense is Sam Carter. He has been really good lately.

 

[TCURiggs]

Great article. Really good to read about some of those guys.

A guy not getting enough love because of the loaded defense is Sam Carter. He has been really good lately.

Agreed. Carter is becoming very TJ-esque. Olabode has been awesome as well. Hell, pretty much everyone on that side of the ball has been great.

 

[Limey Frog]

It's a fine article, but I think TCU only puts up such good defensive numbers because they play in the Mountain West.

 

[jake102]

Hell, pretty much everyone on that side of the ball has been great.

That's the problem... the past couple games pretty much every defensive player has been either solid (White, Hackett), good (Cain, Mallett), or great (Maponga, Fields, Pierson, Hunter, Verrett, Olabode, Carter).

 

[West Texas Frog]

I will have to say it is getting old hearing over and over again in various articles that TCU somehow struggles to recruit against the regional powers. I call BS! Patterson and his staff aren't having any problems getting the players they want, and many of them happen to be highly recruited players by a number of other FBS schools. Has it occurred to these writers and so-called analysts that Patterson has been successful getting 2 star and 3 star recruits, who out perform the blue-chip 4 and 5 stars on other teams? We are continuing to hear this b***s*** despite TCU's membership in the Big 12 Conference. Seems like they have not figured out TCU's success is a result of coaching more than anything else.

 

[jake102]

I will have to say it is getting old hearing over and over again in various articles that TCU somehow struggles to recruit against the regional powers. I call BS! Patterson and his staff aren't having any problems getting the players they want,

It's fun to say this, but if you go look at UT or aTm recruits, TCU has offered many of them. I think Patterson would love to get some of the big name recruits, but is a good enough coach to do fine without them.

Devonte Fields is a good example of what Patterson can do with very highly recruited guys.

 

[West Texas Frog]

It's fun to say this, but if you go look at UT or aTm recruits, TCU has offered many of them. I think Patterson would love to get some of the big name recruits, but is a good enough coach to do fine without them.

Devonte Fields is a good example of what Patterson can do with very highly recruited guys.

Throw in Brandon Carter as another highly regarded recruit that OU coveted.

 

[frognutz]

I would love to hear an insiders take on how these recruit ratings services play into the game plan of college coaches when they hit the recruiting trail. Is it a jumping off point for them or much more than that?

 

[froginaustin]

I would love to hear an insiders take on how these recruit ratings services play into the game plan of college coaches when they hit the recruiting trail. Is it a jumping off point for them or much more than that?

Patterson has publicly claimed that he ignores recruiting services. That's a credible claim, because anyone that bothers to read the newspapers (on or off line) is going to hear about the Johnathan Gray, Casey Pachall, Tyler Matthews, [what's his name; having a senior moment] Fields types of players. It's no wonder that all of Patterson's staff and the ratings services grade these guys high.

Wasn't it none other than Mack Daddy hisseff, commenting after his 2010 season, saying that his staff had relied too heavily on recruiting services' opinions and "stars"? Or maybe Frank Beamer after VaTech trailed off a few years ago?

I doubt any coaching staffs needed any help "evaluating" players like $cam Newton, and maybe Lache Seastrunk. There the guys in the recruiting industry seem to have played roles other than evaluators.

 

[QuilterFrawg]

It's a fine article, but I think TCU only puts up such good defensive numbers because they play in the Mountain West.

 

[neutral observer]

Great article!

 

[SnoopFrogs11]

It was a great article about one of the best defensive coaches in America and how he turns players from 3 stars to 4 and five star players. His ability to turn average those good players and produce great players will attract more players like Fields.

 

[Cougar/Frog]

A couple years ago there was an article about Randy Shannon and Miami and how he changed recruiting at the U. I guess about the year 2000 Miami stopped evaluating players themselves and just relied on the services and their stars. Seems that RS realized that this got that a lot of overrated players and not what they needed and so they returned to the basics and ditched the services.

It takes a lot of time and effort to build a team and lazy coaches at name programs can just pick so called greats. LHCGMFP didn't have that luxury and is an old school guy in the deepest talent pool in the country.

 

[talor]

Wasn't it none other than Mack Daddy hisseff, commenting after his 2010 season, saying that his staff had relied too heavily on recruiting services' opinions and "stars"? Or maybe Frank Beamer after VaTech trailed off a few years ago?

If you are read the same articles I read then you are referencing the Miami Hurricanes in the Larry Coker era.

Edit: Cougar/Frog beat me to it, although his dates may be a little off considering UM was awesome from 2000-2004 or so. The points are still valid that it was Miami and Coker before Shannon that you are thinking of.

 

[frognutz]

Patterson has publicly claimed that he ignores recruiting services. That's a credible claim, because anyone that bothers to read the newspapers (on or off line) is going to hear about the Johnathan Gray, Casey Pachall, Tyler Matthews, [what's his name; having a senior moment] Fields types of players. It's no wonder that all of Patterson's staff and the ratings services grade these guys high.

Wasn't it none other than Mack Daddy hisseff, commenting after his 2010 season, saying that his staff had relied too heavily on recruiting services' opinions and "stars"? Or maybe Frank Beamer after VaTech trailed off a few years ago?

I doubt any coaching staffs needed any help "evaluating" players like $cam Newton, and maybe Lache Seastrunk. There the guys in the recruiting industry seem to have played roles other than evaluators.

Nice. I guess it's a compliment that if TCU likes a guy he is suddenly on the radar for other programs. Not too much different than picking stocks.

 

[Cougar/Frog]

The U was great in 2000-2004, but those players were recruited when the U scored players themselves. The Canes started to suck in 2005 when the so-called 5 stars sucked. RS went back to scouting....

 

[tcujsauce]

It's fun to say this, but if you go look at UT or aTm recruits, TCU has offered many of them. I think Patterson would love to get some of the big name recruits, but is a good enough coach to do fine without them.

Devonte Fields is a good example of what Patterson can do with very highly recruited guys.

A thousand times this. Seeing how incredible Fields has been this year, it's fairly scary to think about what our defense/whole team could look like had we been able to hit on some of those highly recruited dudes.