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pgdaly84

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Glad to see someone in the media finally bring this up. The story is very well written and shows the impact the murders have had on the victims' families.

http://m.washingtonpost.com/sports/redskins/ray-lewiss-ties-to-atlanta-murders-now-a-footnote--except-among-victims-family/2013/01/24/3855a4de-664a-11e2-85f5-a8a9228e55e7_story.html
 
gofrogs152

gofrogs152

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Sorry, but this is a very one sided and incomplete recollection of what happened. Let me say very clearly I don't know who killed those two individuals or whether Ray Lewis is involved. I'm a Baltimore Ravens fan and have enjoyed having Ray Lewis play on my team, but I don't pretent to know who he truly is as a person or what he has been involved in.

However, what this story fails to report is that these "victims" were actually the instigators of the fights that night and most witnesses report that Ray Lewis was trying to be the peacemaker in the situation. The two men he was with were tried for murder and acquitted. I'm not naive enough to say that makes them innocent, but I don't understand how individuals can then jump to Ray Lewis is a murderer.

Finally, this is a woman who had 9 children and admits to giving them to her mother to raise while she was in and out of jail. Now she wants to financially benefit from her son's death because someone famous is associated it with it? Sorry, I'm not buying that. A settlement was made to care for the unborn child of her son, which is fortunate, considering no one was ever convicted of the crime. I don't begrudge that child the money at all, but do you think there would be any consideration of such a financial settlement at all if a famous athlete's name isn't associated with the case?

I have no idea if Ray Lewis is a good man or not. His foundation has done a lot of good work here in Baltimore, but I know how to separate the two. But articles like this are ridiculously one sided and fail to tell the complexities of this story.

Some other articles that give a more balanced view of the situation.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/bs-md-rodricks-0115-20130114,0,1074931.column

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/ray-lewis-baltimore-ravens-retiring-earned-respect-aftermath-double-murder-trial-011113

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1473116-ray-lewis-critics-who-bring-up-controversial-past-need-to-get-facts-straight
 
matmoo123

matmoo123

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I think Ray was involved and likely will carry huge regrets about that night to his grave. He does seem to have turned his life around at this point. That case was a mess from day one.
 
ftwfrog

ftwfrog

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OJ was acquitted also.

Ray may be not guilty of murder. I just find it ironic that "tough on crime" Roger Goddell assigns Ray Lewis an ambassador to the game after he retires. Obstruction of justice, 4 baby Mommas and 6 kids later.
 
joejordan

joejordan

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"starting a fight' can be very difficult to determine. From what I recall, Mr. Lewis and his posse (yes, they used that term back then) went to a bar called Indigo (or some form of blue, I was there many times. It is a small place in Buckhead, changed names seasonally, always tried to be hip. The building is completely gone now). The posse of course demanded a wide swath for their benefactor, Mr. Lewis. This irked several 'normal' people waiting in line, inside the club, etc. If you did not comply with the request to move your ast out of the way, it got rougher. That is SOP for a Buckhead club in those days. Read up on the BMF if you want to get a flava of the scene.

I was across the street that night at a series of bars (primarily Tongue and Groove), working. I was with DIAGEO at that time. I was out of the area when the actual murders took place, but based upon what I saw and heard, I would say the 'fight' likely 'started' long before the knives (which were bought the day before by Lewis) came out.
 
matmoo123

matmoo123

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That felt like the final nail in the coffin for the old Buckhead bar district. Fun during the heyday, but got pretty rough at the end. Still, better than the big empty construction pit we've been staring at for the last 5 years...
 
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I did it

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gofrogs152 said:
Sorry, but this is a very one sided and incomplete recollection of what happened. Let me say very clearly I don't know who killed those two individuals or whether Ray Lewis is involved. I'm a Baltimore Ravens fan and have enjoyed having Ray Lewis play on my team, but I don't pretent to know who he truly is as a person or what he has been involved in.

However, what this story fails to report is that these "victims" were actually the instigators of the fights that night and most witnesses report that Ray Lewis was trying to be the peacemaker in the situation. The two men he was with were tried for murder and acquitted. I'm not naive enough to say that makes them innocent, but I don't understand how individuals can then jump to Ray Lewis is a murderer.

Finally, this is a woman who had 9 children and admits to giving them to her mother to raise while she was in and out of jail. Now she wants to financially benefit from her son's death because someone famous is associated it with it? Sorry, I'm not buying that. A settlement was made to care for the unborn child of her son, which is fortunate, considering no one was ever convicted of the crime. I don't begrudge that child the money at all, but do you think there would be any consideration of such a financial settlement at all if a famous athlete's name isn't associated with the case?

I have no idea if Ray Lewis is a good man or not. His foundation has done a lot of good work here in Baltimore, but I know how to separate the two. But articles like this are ridiculously one sided and fail to tell the complexities of this story.

Some other articles that give a more balanced view of the situation.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/bs-md-rodricks-0115-20130114,0,1074931.column

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/ray-lewis-baltimore-ravens-retiring-earned-respect-aftermath-double-murder-trial-011113

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1473116-ray-lewis-critics-who-bring-up-controversial-past-need-to-get-facts-straight
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