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On3: Anonymous Big 12 coach feels 2025 season 'really matters' for Sonny Dykes' future

BrewingFrog

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I'm beyond somewhat alarmed by your post that there have not been more replies.

Simply take Talent Evaluation from your post. If you go to On3 or 247, TCU regularly has 50% to 70% of what other schools have in terms of offers. For instance, if Ohio State, Florida, Nebraska, S. Carolina or another 4 dozen schools have 250 to 300+ offers in the 2026 Cycle, TCU has 150 +- 20%. Take a look at 2027 offers. TCU is down 40% to 70% vs most other schools in the B12.

There are at least 5 areas where TCU is below woeful when approaching recruiting and I'll comment on 2 1) geographical diversity and 2) Brahma Bull dominance in the trenches.

If you have an offensive tackle drafted by the KC Chiefs who was recruited from Connecticut you should go back to Connecticut and attempt to sweep the state for the next 10 years--- Fail.

If you have a QB who was a Heisman runner up you go back to IOWA and work work it against fading Ferentz and baseball hat Campbell and do almost whatever is necessary to get players from CT IA. At least make some Scholly offers in NC SC WY NJ Illinois and elsewhere. We are not making offers in pretty much everywhere other than Texas and even SMU is kicking our ass. The major point is there are young men in Idaho, Utah, Arkansas, Pennsylvania, Alabama, Illinois, Missouri that our crack staff has been ignoring for years.

Bull dominance .... We have some kind of strange strange tendency to recruit Defensive Lineman that are 265 Lbs out of HS and hope to beef em up to real 300 Lb Lineman. The solution may be to target the "Giants" at 17YO who are 2 stars 3 stars at 300Lbs + Trim them down, increase muscle mass with Kaz and have real plan to redshirt them and play them 18 months later.
The Recruiting game is a strange one now, with the Big Programs just using the smaller ones as development squads and then money-whipping away the cream. I honestly don't know how any Coach would expect to keep a really good kid when a dozen Big Programs are blowing up his phone...

I have always felt like Texas is the best recruiting ground out there. Problem is, everybody knows this and the place is overrun. I feel like there are plenty of diamonds in the rough out there, but recognizing that particular rock amongst all the others takes a special talent all to itself. I don't know if we have that type of evaluator on our staff. It seems that we run our recruiting off what the recruiting mags and websites say, and not what our eyeballs are saying. That, and we feel as if we can close up any holes through The Portal.

I don't know. I really don't. As you say, there's plenty of talent out there, it simply has to be found.
 

SW toad

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The Recruiting game is a strange one now, with the Big Programs just using the smaller ones as development squads and then money-whipping away the cream. I honestly don't know how any Coach would expect to keep a really good kid when a dozen Big Programs are blowing up his phone...

I have always felt like Texas is the best recruiting ground out there. Problem is, everybody knows this and the place is overrun. I feel like there are plenty of diamonds in the rough out there, but recognizing that particular rock amongst all the others takes a special talent all to itself. I don't know if we have that type of evaluator on our staff. It seems that we run our recruiting off what the recruiting mags and websites say, and not what our eyeballs are saying. That, and we feel as if we can close up any holes through The Portal.

I don't know. I really don't. As you say, there's plenty of talent out there, it simply has to be found.
I think TCU has excellent recruiters like Malcom Kelly WR coach but lessons need to be learned by CFB recruiting depts. Jordyn Tyson -ASU- is a Texas kid and probably the best WR in Big 12 had no Texas B12 offers.

Think about how many talented QBs Texas schools let get out of state. Drew Brees, Ryan Tannehill, Kyler Murray, Matthew Stafford, Nick Foles and on and on. Well not Tannehil (A&M). Heck even Josh Hoover was about to go to Indiana. The point is that there are different methods to evaluate QBs that have just surfaced in the last 10 years. "Release point" is something that can be measured. RP is particularly important with shorter QBs like Kyler Murray and Russel Wilson. The tightness of the spiral in a ball thrown has become more valued in the last few years.

I watched SEC games last year that G. Nussmeir-QB LSU, Arch Manning TX, LaNorris Sellers played and I think Sellers right now is the best of this bunch. One of the few in the SEC who can challenge these 3 is John Mateer out of OU. A kid out of Little Elm Tx who received 0 B12 offers.
 
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