There is a disconnect somewhere but I think I figured it out.
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There is a disconnect somewhere but I think I figured it out.
BrewingFrog
Was I supposed to type something here?
I shall have etouffe, and watch Belizaire The Cajun as penance...
Prince of Purpoole II
Reigning Smartarse
Sonny: Hey Gary, SMU offered me the HC spot and north of $3 million per year!
Gary: We hate to lose you. I tell you what: You can have any job here but mine.
Sonny: Well, I really want to be top dog and hire my own staff. If I stay can I have $3 million per year?
Gary: Lol no
Sonny: Then I’m sure you’ll understand. I just have to leave for the promotion and the money. I get to stay in N Texas too!
Gary: Oh I understand. Hell everyone will. Except hiphopfroggy of course.
flyfishingfrog
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How do you know it wasn’t OC or a higher paid version of what Kill is doing or Asst HC or head Pooba- the point is it wasn’t our HC job and that is what Sonny wanted to be, so after Spyke passed away and the SMU offer came in - he moved on
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Froggish
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I think it does...so a 10 year body of work is irrelevant but a 3 year body of work isn't relevant enough? All of that is subjective and arbitrary. Last time I checked he's on his most successful 3 year run in his coaching career. (Like how I framed that little micro cherry picking stat?). It like we are looking at a trend graph. Give me a break. That's pretty much the very definition of cherry picking don't you think? I'm not stumping for Dykes but the eye of the beholder stuff is tiresome. I get why someone might think he's not right for the job because people don't like his record, or his personality, or the fact that he's not ever been referenced in a hip hop lyric. I just think its funny the people feel like they have to frame him up in weird little micro lenses to make their point. Of course we should tread lightly.
Whoever the candidate is we really only need to know that he can either continue on with his current success or be an even better version of himself with TCU logo on. I honestly think there are 3-4 current candidates that we can say that about and Dykes is one of them. PEOPLE...There are NO SURE THINGS in CFB Coaching hires.
There is literally not a current coach in College Football that I couldn't make an excellent argument for or against to be the next coach at TCU. That includes Saban..Give me Culture Builder 1, Resume/Proof of Concept 2, Recruiting 3, and Motive 4........I think if prioritize those things than we will find a really good coach.
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Prince of Purpoole II
Reigning Smartarse
Well put
Putt4Purple
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Could a head coach come from the current assistant coaching staff? Just asking. It may surprise everyone when we hear coach, Meacham, Hill, Modkins? If you said no then maybe Patterson did not have the proper assistant coaches after all. How sad, only after the fact it comes to reality. Go Frogs!
flyfishingfrog
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Isn't the prevailing perception that his stubbornness about resisting change and his loyalty to a small circle of guys that he either taught to coach or coached as a player in his system was his downfall in the end - so why would we then promote one of the people that ultimately led to us firing our legendary HC because they sucked?
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This Ain't Chopped Liver
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“Donati said the school has engaged a search firm called Turnkey and TCU will also have a small hiring committee comprised of school trustees and athletic department staff members.”
Palliative Care
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Those who would Patterson as a total loser are full of it.
Joe T's Salsa King
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I think the riff ram chant needs to be part of the interview process we need to make sure the new coach truly has frog spirit.
There is a disconnect here but I think I figured it out. I don't know what you are referring to (in bold) because I was not part of that conversation. I didn't read it. My scenario post wasn't a response to, or a reply to anything that you had posted. My reply to Palliative Care was an isolated reply, to a topic that I was discussing with other people.
And since then, we have been crossed up, wondering what the other person is talking about. I'm sorry for flinging anything that could be perceived or received as an insult. Are we good?
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PurplFrawg
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Frog Fountain. Noon. Choo-Choo!!!!
For what it's worth...I think Chancellor Boschini is a Mount Union alum. If Campbell is their #1 target maybe the two can bond over that...LOL!
This Ain't Chopped Liver
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For those who don’t know, legendary head coach Larry Kehres (Vince’s father) won 11 Division III championships at Mount Union—Matt Campbell was a D lineman on three and the Offensive Coordinator/O Line coach on two others.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Kehres
“Kehres retired from coaching in May 2013 with a record of 332–24–3 as head coach of the Mount Union Purple Raiders football team, and a winning percentage of .929, the highest in college football history.”
“Kehres is 3–1 against college football's all-time winningest coach, John Gagliardi, having beaten Gagliardi's St. John's squads twice in playoff match-ups and traded wins in the national title game in 2000 and 2003.”
John Gagliardi was another Division III legendary coach (all time winningest college head coach) at Saint John’s University in Minnesota. He was known for practicing with little contact (no tackling), wanting his team free of injury, fresh and itching for contact on game day (or something like that).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Gagliardi
“Gagliardi was known for his unique coaching approach, which he called "Winning with No's." He instructed his players not to call him "coach", did not use a whistle or blocking sleds, prohibited tackling in practices, did not require his players to lift weights, and limited his team practices to 90 minutes.”
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Moose Stuff
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Is Frog spirit more important than Frog factor?
texas_sicilian
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When it boils down to it, I'm for whomever promises to fire the "east side/west side go frogs" chant guy at the beginning of each game.
They should actually rehire him every Monday so they can fire him again before the next home game
you make some good points and I can go with several. Not so sure about this ^.
I'm not 100% sure what 10 year and 3 year bodies of work you are referring too? I didn't say a 10 year body of work is irrelevant. I did say what was done 10 years ago, isn't relevant.
For example, GP was 11-2 in 2011. We won the Poinsettia Bowl vs. La Tech, who was ironically, coached by Dykes. I would say that the decision to fire GP was based on his last 4 years, not his 2011 season.
I think Dykes has enough coaching data for us to get a feel for how he would do. We could expect a poor defense, good offense and overall a serviceable program. Probably 4-6th place with an occasional 2nd or 3rd place finish and an occasional bowl win. (he is 1-3 in bowls). That's written without deep diving into more statistical data.
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