Morning after: take-aways thread

[allclearforfrogs]

• Please remember that the 2022 team needed until the 4th quarter to put away 1-11 Colorado as the first road game.
• There were sloppy mistakes all game, but there is a noticeable improvement vs 2023, especially defense. Most sports writers and observers can see it too.
• Stanford could have beat us if we made more stupid self inflicted mistakes. However, with that said, if you take away all of our self-inflicted wounds, we could have easily won 40ish to single-digit-ish.
• 2023 was a product of NCG hangover, defensive philosophy and lack of leadership/attitude. That is hopefully getting fixed this year.

 

[Big Frog II]

I really was impressed with Hoover. Thought he played a very good game. Defense was good except for bone headed penalties.

 

[Dtx_Frog_Fan]

One takeaway I’ve got is that we don’t win that game without a new defensive coordinator. Glad SD did the right thing in the off-season.

 

[Limey Frog]

One takeaway I’ve got is that we don’t win that game without a new defensive coordinator. Glad SD did the right thing in the off-season.

He proved that he's willing to change a coordinator who just doesn't have it. That could be useful.

 

[BleedNPurple]

I share a lot of the sentiments that have already been shared. All-in-all, QB1 was solid. Stanford didn't stop the offense. The offense stopped the offense. Going into halftime with only 26 rushing yards was certainly something I'm not accustomed to seeing from our team, but the rushing begrudgingly got better. IMO, we tried to attack the edges a bit too much. I would have liked to see more of those hand-offs go between the tackles.

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After their first drive where we had a 3rd and 19, a 3rd and 16, and a 3rd and 17 (or something like that) all get converted and turned into a TD I wasn't the best person to be around. But my preference is to coach down aggression than to have to coach it up, ie give me a horse that wants to run fast rather than one I have to beat. At the end of the night, absent the quarterback keeps, the defense won me over. We had plenty of TFLs, plenty of pressures, and plenty of PBUs.

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Red Zone play calls are still a problem. We really need to get better there. But I want to bring attention to the time management at the end of the game. We were still playing fast on the penultimate drive after after we got into the red zone. We should've gone full on K-State during that time and snapped every ball inside of five seconds. We left them WAY too much time for their last possession.

There was a run in the red zone where Cook ran outside to the right and was stopped. There was a hole up the middle you could have driven a truck through that would have resulted in a TD if he would have hit it. I agree - too much outside running - not even looking up the middle. I agree with previous statement- Cook needs to go up the middle.

In regards to kicking field goals - looked like every kick was hooking left and weak. I’m sure it was freshman nerves and hope to see that improve. The missed chip shot was on the center and holder did a good job of just getting the ball and getting it down. Freshman kicker has a choreographed motion so wasn’t ready to allow an extra second on the high snap to get a better placement. That will improve with experience.

 

[2themax]

Hoover could possibly be a top 3 Big 12 qb by mid-season. Just has to grow up a tad more. His ball velocity and accuracy are noticeable better. Waiting for the ball to be spread out more and I hope the plan is to run him a bit more.
Couldn't really get a definitive read on the run blocking. Stanford loaded the box the entire game.
Slight pause at the run defense but very encouraged at the athletcism of the secondary starters.
QB pressure changes things in a hurry.
Waiting on a few alphas to show up on the field.
Gonna need a Duggan/Winters type duo to make it interesting.

 

[AroundWorldFrog]

Hoover could possibly be a top 3 Big 12 qb by mid-season. Just has to grow up a tad more.

Grow 'em up!

Anonymous TCU coach

 

[LisaLT]

Did Eric McAlister play? I thought he was supposed to be a big deal.

 

[LisaLT]

Were we the only Big12 team to play a road game opener? Seems like everyone else played at home (I think). Traveling to the west coast and playing late at night should be factored into the equation when analyzing overall performance. TCU isn't really used to that kind of later start vs. teams from the PAC.

 

[gohornedfrogs]

I was thinking about this earlier. I have believed for a couple of years that these late starts on the west coast were what doomed the Pac 12. Isn't an 8:30 start by the 2nd half leaching into some of these players 2nd or 3rd stage of sleep? You have to think that this had something to do with the penalties, turnovers and drops.

Don’t worry, the CFP will take the “body clock” metric into account when they rank the teams, lol.

 

[KillerFrog InD KitchenSink]

Were we the only Big12 team to play a road game opener? Seems like everyone else played at home (I think). Traveling to the west coast and playing late at night should be factored into the equation when analyzing overall performance. TCU isn't really used to that kind of later start vs. teams from the PAC.

Yes we were the only B-12 road team.

 

[Limey Frog]

Yes we were the only B-12 road team.

I mean, just imagine what a disaster Tech would have been had their game been in Abilene.

 

[East Coast]

ACC Officiating - I will give them a B- only because there are always first-game inconsistencies. They just didn’t seem to be working that well together and should get better. Probably let a lot of things go that B12 would have called, meaning the DB’s won’t be able to cover like the did last night.

Team discipline - Needs work. Caused too many stupid penalties. That is an easy fix.

Above are strictly my opinions, which aren’t worth a whole lot.

Zebra, I thought that officiating group was the most biased against us that I've seen since at Boise in 2011. The number of obvious point of attack holds not called on Stanford was ridiculous, and they consistently gave Stanford and shorted us 1-2 yards on their spots. (I'm not complaining about the personal fouls, except the chop/low block call on Cook, where I believe he was inside the tackle box and was a legal block).

 

[JugbandFrog]

Is it too late to kick out Houston?

 

[4 Oaks Frog]

Zebra, I thought that officiating group was the most biased against us that I've seen since at Boise in 2011. The number of obvious point of attack holds not called on Stanford was ridiculous, and they consistently gave Stanford and shorted us 1-2 yards on their spots. (I'm not complaining about the personal fouls, except the chop/low block call on Cook, where I believe he was inside the tackle box and was a legal block).

…and this from a real Zebra.Thank you!

 

[82 Frog Fever]

Is it too late to kick out Houston?

Let’s not make any rash judgements. I’m sure they’ll look much better next week against Oklahoma.

 

[An-Cap Frog]

The Pac-12 is the only conference that is still undefeated.

 

[CryptoMiner]

Coaching
--The red zone troubles are in Johnny Finger-tape's DNA. As I said when we hired him, I don't care for the Briles scheme. It's not my style, though it can work. When it doesn't work, it tends not to work in frustrating and self-destructive ways. Briles is a bad red zone coach, which is bad because he's in charge of us scoring. If you love yards but hate points, he's your guy.

They were 5 of 6 in Red Zone (4TDs) and the only miss was an idiotic fumble.

 

[campdavid23]

Zebra, I thought that officiating group was the most biased against us that I've seen since at Boise in 2011. The number of obvious point of attack holds not called on Stanford was ridiculous, and they consistently gave Stanford and shorted us 1-2 yards on their spots. (I'm not complaining about the personal fouls, except the chop/low block call on Cook, where I believe he was inside the tackle box and was a legal block).

They were several stretched TCU jerseys on those busted plays by Stanford that were never called..

 

[4 Oaks Frog]

They were 5 of 6 in Red Zone (4TDs) and the only miss was an idiotic fumble.

Looks like pretty good Red Zone offense to me. Would have been 5tds if not for the fumble.
We may need to find another reason to fire him…
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