More realignment talk from Greg Swaim

[GiantFrog]

since private equity was mentioned, i have had a sense that yormark would use it to break fsu and clemson from the acc. that's my conclusion. i won't waste your time with the rationale.

Think this is the move. Get money from PE. Use that to get FSU, Clemson, and others.
Partnering with PE, they'll help us grow our revenue further.

Has BY mentioned how getting PE $ might be structured?

 

[GiantFrog]

This. I hope that EVERY Big XII school opposes disproportionate payouts. If FSU/Clemson can ask and get, I'd bet that BYU will be next. To ask, anyway. And scheme to blow up the conference if they don't get.

Well how do we get acc teams

 

[GiantFrog]

To your second point, if the SEC/big wants them they will take them. If sec/big doesn't want them they'll just have to take the best they can get or go indy.
Also, I'm not a media type but it would seem to me that adding FSC/Clemson would be a net positive to a conference payout which, in itself, would help close the gap between conferences.
Lastly, BY seems to be one of those guys that can find innovative ways to make things happen.....could find enough magic to pull FSU/Clemson into the fold.

This....the BY magic wand. He has a plan. Open for business gentlemen.

 

[PurpleBlood87]

This would be awesome. Plus it kneecaps SMU.

 

[What Up Toad]

This would be awesome. Plus it kneecaps SMU.

Fake.

 

[ShadowFrog]

Am I the only one having expanded WAC 2: the shivers memories or should I just take some more meds?

 

[froginmn]

This would be awesome. Plus it kneecaps SMU.

I'm sure that Dr. McHornedFrog has his fingers on the pulse...

 

[JugbandFrog]

Why aren’t we AAU accredited or whatever it is that the Big 10 wants from it’s members?

 

[ShadowFrog]

Why aren’t we AAU accredited or whatever it is that the Big 10 wants from its members?

….paging Deep Purple in 3…2…1…

 

[CryptoMiner]

This would be awesome. Plus it kneecaps SMU.

that has to be someone from KF.

 

[ShadowFrog]

that has to be someone from KF.

***CLASSIFIED***

 

[Ron Swanson]

Why aren’t we AAU accredited or whatever it is that the Big 10 wants from its members?

Speaking strictly from what I’ve read on TCU message boards:

That’s not the type of university we are. We would have to increase our research spending by something absurd like $400 million (I made that number up, but it’s a crazy big number).

It technically “could” be done, but it would require a major shift in the university’s planning/direction/spending and it would take decades.

 

[y2kFrog]

Why aren’t we AAU accredited or whatever it is that the Big 10 wants from it’s members?

Same with the ACC schools? This sounds like something that you could fill out a 2 page application and pay a $25 fee to join. Ok, exaggerating a little but it sounds like something that if you need it wouldn’t be hard to do.

 

[Ron Swanson]

Same with the ACC schools? This sounds like something that you could fill out a 2 page application and pay a $25 fee to join. Ok, exaggerating a little but it sounds like something that if you need it wouldn’t be hard to do.

 

[Limey Frog]

This would be awesome. Plus it kneecaps SMU.

Lol.

Seriously, though, people just keep repeating the phrase "private equity" like it's a magic incantation. Can we please be clear on what we're talking about: investors lending money at interest to fund something that will create a product valuable enough to pay off that investment plus interest while also making the borrower(s) more money than they were making before. The Big 12's product is football on TV with a side dish of basketball on TV. That is also the Big Ten and SEC's product, except theirs is worth more. If the 16 existing members of our conference playing football against FSU and Clemson will generate enough additional revenue to buy their way out of the ACC and get them to commit to the Big 12, how much more would those same schools generate by going to the Big Ten or SEC? Obviously that figure would be higher. So why wouldn't those conferences just take FSU and Clemson to get that cash? You can say "AAU" or "they already have members in those states" all you want, but see the Big Ten's about-face on Oregon and Washington or the SEC telling Aggy to stuff it when they invited Bevo U. The Big Ten and SEC will always take the money.

Here it is in a simple syllogism:
-- Big Ten/SEC + FSU & Clemson = more money than Big 12 + FSU & Clemson.
-- "Private equity" = money being used to make the most more money possible.
-- Therefore, if the magic private equity fairy is going to sprinkle some "get out of the ACC for very much not free" dust on FSU and Clemson to go anywhere, that somewhere will not be the Big 12.

 

[82 Frog Fever]

Swaim is solid.

Swaim is gaseous.

 

[Limey Frog]

Swaim is gaseous.

Or liquid (feces).

 

[Double D]

Mentioned this to some SMU fans yesterday. My phone is still blowing up some 18 hours later.

They are nervous!

 

[Palliative Care]

If this occurs that would help my resentment of the underhanded taking of a QB recruit by SMU .But I will believe this when it happens and not before.

 

[82 Frog Fever]

-- Therefore, if the magic private equity fairy is going to sprinkle some "get out of the ACC for very much not free" dust on FSU and Clemson to go anywhere, that somewhere will not be the Big 12.

Personally, I still don’t see a path or mechanism that gets them out of the ACC GOR. Everybody is glued to the ACC, but that just seems like a drama sideshow that could be years from resolution.
I still believe the ball is in the BIG’s court.
When the BIG comes for NC, Duke, Kansas, & Utah and the SEC responds with Clemson, FSU, & ??? is when we begin to see the emergence of the Big 2 super league in a NFL model. A straight up NFL minor league with its own commissioner, own playoff system, & a championship game on the Saturday before the Super Bowl.

This interview with Kyle Whittingham beginning @ 10:30 is exactly where we’re headed. He is spot on.