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Listenbee Lawsuit Update 3/19/2018

Discussion in 'Scott & Wes Frog Fan Forum' started by Froglaw, Mar 19, 2018.

  1. And cheating.
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  2. Run the 40 all out, let me know what muscles and body parts you think you are using.

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  3. I think KL’s actions are ensuring that a NFL team will not take a chance on him moving forward. If you are a GM of a NFL team, would you want to take a chance on KL?
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  4. He also had a vertical jump of 35.5 inches (which admittedly isn't all that great but still...), had a very respectable 10'9" broad jump and bench pressed 225 lbs fifteen times, which is also pretty good at his size. PLUS he passed all the physicals the NFL puts you through. Go look at his college film and see all the highlight plays where he's doing something besides running straight down the field. There basically are none. THAT is why he had a very short NFL career, he was a one-trick pony and it's hard to last in the NFL with their 45-man gameday rosters as a one-trick pony unless that one trick is really, really special.

    Could you imagine him playing special teams? Me neither.
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  5. He has already PMed me and provided me that info. He's chickenpoo in his lawsuit with what he's doing (in my opinion), and I informed him of that, but not in the way you imply.
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  7. His claim to fame was outrunning the secondary. He didn't have to juke, move, fake all that much, just outrun the coverage. 4.39 speed at the combine proved that he could still do that. This was after his playing time. He didn't HAVE to undergo any further treatments, cortizone shots, therapy, etc. after he was done playing for TCU. I'm sure his scholly paid for his spring semester (unless he'd already used up any eligibility, I do not know). IF he did any of those things after the season was over, I'm confident he requested it.

    Fact is, he ran a 4.39 at the combine. He obviously did well enough in the other aspects to get DRAFTED in the 6th round (not a FA signee). What happens after is not TCU's fault!

    I realize that there is a lot here that I do not know that I admit to, but darn...the evidence kind of speaks for itself, does it not?
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  8. No. No, I would not.

    Fe-ically, his [ Cumbie’s red zone playcalling ] of a Lionel Hutz attorney has been the one to scuttle any remaining NFL chances for KL.

    edit: [ Cumbie’s red zone playcalling ] Ferguson; that storm was a real [ Cumbie’s red zone playcalling ] floater
    Overfiltration alert: [ Cumbie’s red zone playcalling ] is an important tool in the Merican vernacular.
  9. That's a lot of Orgeron. Makes it hard to follow your point.
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    Able to win deep against man coverage. Averaged 19 yards per catch and 16 yards at the point of the catch in 2015. Natural hands. Doesn't typically have to fight the ball and shows very good concentration to eyeball throws into his hands. Adequate ball tracking and makes late adjustments on deep throws. Good hand fighter to free himself to be catch-ready. Has second gear to run under throws. Adjusts well to low throws and can go dig them out.
    Gangly with a frame that is too thin at this time. Takes an excessive amount of time to gear down into his breaks and is slow to turn and find the ball. Long-strider. Shows meager effort as blocker on wide receiver screens and in the running game. Saw targets and deep ball production fall off this season.
    Intriguing draft prospect with good height, hands and ball skills and the second gear to threaten defenses deep. Listenbee won't help much as a run blocker and he's not sudden enough to be a consistent worker from the slot, but winning deep can produce touchdowns which will get him into a camp.
  11. He had multiple TCU physicals and multiple NFL physicals and passed them all. If what you say is true that he covered up an injury, then he was lying to multiple physicians for financial gain!!

    That plays right into the defense for all the defendants. Good luck convincing a Texas jury to award $ damages to a proven liar to doctors for financial gain.

    I just don't see this getting past summary judgment for what it is worth and I'm a plaintiff's lawyer.
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  12. Even with the Ed O'bannon case uproar and concessions thereafter by NCAA to allow for full cost of attendance, guaranteed 4 yr scholies, etc, student-athletes are still "independent contractors" as far as the schools are concerned. They're offered a contract (full or partial scholarship), told to supply their own insurance, and expected to deal with the costs "post-contract" for continued treatment of injuries sustained during the contract until they reach the NCAA $90,000 threshold. That doesn't sound like an employer/employee relationship to me.
  13. #75 texasrobster1997, Mar 21, 2018
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    To your point #1. I agree. You will find practices vary quite a bit. This is exactly why not meeting standard of care is a tough argument unless the doc was wheels off.

    To your point #2. Again, no expert here, but when I last looked at into it the guidelines gave some recommendations but gave freedom to the physician (as in most “guidelines” they try no to put you in a box. Also expert opinions vary). Hence they are usually purposely vague. Maybe not to a pharmacist or a lawyer, but that is from my perspective. That being said I would be shocked if he got more than 4 steroid shots in a 12 month span. I wonder, though, if he got a few more that were local anesthetics.
  14. But that's not the point. The point is that had he had better treatment, TCU'd have won state. No doubt. No doubt in his mind. Things'd be different. He'd have gone pro. He'd be making millions of dollars and living in a big ol' mansion somewhere, soaking it up in a hot tub with his soul mate.

    How much you wanna bet he can throw a football over them mountains?
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  16. Yeah, but winning state isn't good enough, is it?
  17. Better’n regionals or semis!
  18. ...delusions of grandeur for the win.

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