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82 Frog Fever

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Who has seen them play this season?
Strengths & weakness?
Nothing new, the secret to beating KSU is controlling Avery Johnson.
Johnson is very elusive, and has an effective Oline. AJ has only been sacked 4 times this year, and he has approx. 25% of KSU’s rushing attempts. If you take out the sack impacts (4/-31), Johnson has 43 carries for 240 yds & 3 TDs. Of course many of his rushes are on 3rd down for a 1st down.
Johnson is also a 63% passer & only has 2 INTs. Unfortunately for him, 1 of those INTs was a pick 6 with 4 min. left in the BU game……Otherwise, KSU wins that game on the road.
KSU’s Dline has good talent and 13 sacks. Unlike TCU, most of KSU’s sacks are by D linemen, so they don’t blitz nearly as much as TCU. KSU’s secondary is a weakness that Hoover and our receivers will need to exploit. The only question is, can our pathetic OL block effectively against KSU’s DL????
On the injury front, Hughes (this is really bad for TCU) is out for the season, but Ansel Din-Mbuh should return. Payne is 50/50.

TCU’s offense will likely need 5 or 6 TDs to win this game, so it’s dueling QBs.

Key Statistical Areas (2025 Season)
  • Defense:
    • Stop Rate: Ranks 77th in the nation at 59.3% ahead of Week 7 of the 2025 season.
    • Points Per Drive: Ranks 77th at 2.20 Pts/Drive allowed ahead of Week 7.
    • Run Defense: Ranked 116th nationally, allowing 181.6 rushing yards per game.
    • Defensive Line: Expected to be strong, with at least six or seven players capable of starting for other Big 12 teams. However, the loss of Big 12 Defensive Lineman of the Year Brendan Mott after the 2024 season has impacted the rush defense.
    • Secondary: Considered a potential weakness, relying on transfers and young players with limited experience at cornerback. They have shown improvement weekly but faced a significant challenge against Baylor's receivers.
    • Fourth Down Conversions: Allowed more conversions through the first three games (10) than all of last season (9).
  • Offense:
    • Time of Possession: Ranks 128th nationally, indicating difficulties getting off the field defensively.
    • Passing Yards: Quarterback Avery Johnson has 1,363 passing yards and 10 touchdowns.
    • Rushing Yards: Avery Johnson also contributes significantly to the rushing attack with 209 yards and 3 touchdowns.
    • Receiving Yards: Jayce Brown leads the team with 390 receiving yards and 3 touchdowns.
 
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Mean Purple

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Who has seen them play this season?
Strengths & weakness?
they made some odd play calls downt he stretch. including 3 that caused them to settle for a FG in the 4th when they would have likely gotten 7. (but that seems to be a trend in this whole conference).

Their secondary is struggling a bit. They seem to give up leverage a lot. Linebackers have overplayed quite a bit. D Line has looked impressive at times, but if someone runs the ball on them enough, they seem to get as worn down as anyone else late, and that has resulted in them getting torched on pass plays late.

QB is an already known.
 

Wexahu

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They seem to be middle of the pack-ish in about most statistical categories. Near the bottom in run defense, so that appears like a bad on bad matchup.
 

tmcats

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obviously, your takes are interesting to me and pretty solid.

offense: spins around avery johnson's game. what would have been a solid receiving corps has been missing a couple starters - brown and bradley - altho the former played some at baylor. dylan edwards has a high ankle sprain, i think, thus he's not as effective as hoped - not sure he plays saturday.

defense: leaky. strength is the line/pass rush, not so against the run. meh defensive unit otherwise. have gone to a four man front.

special teams: edwards out as punt returner. kick returner also out. kicking game is very good. punting is unpredictable - from excellent to bad.

coaching: from my perspective, a large part of the struggle this year has been the loss of assistant coaches - o'coordinator/line coach to cowboys, earlier collin klein to aTm, strength coach to usc. avery johnson has played for four different coordinators.

home field: generally k-state is better in manhattan. forecast 80 degrees and dry. sold out - 50,000+.
 
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CryptoMiner

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Nothing new, the secret to beating KSU is controlling Avery Johnson.
Johnson is very elusive, and has an effective Oline. AJ has only been sacked 4 times this year, and he has approx. 25% of KSU’s rushing attempts. If you take out the sack impacts (4/-31), Johnson has 43 carries for 240 yds & 3 TDs. Of course many of his rushes are on 3rd down for a 1st down.
Johnson is also a 63% passer & only has 2 INTs. Unfortunately for him, 1 of those INTs was a pick 6 with 4 min. left in the BU game……Otherwise, KSU wins that game on the road.
KSU’s Dline has good talent and 13 sacks. Unlike TCU, most of KSU’s sacks are by D linemen, so they don’t blitz nearly as much as TCU. KSU’s secondary is a weakness that Hoover and our receivers will need to exploit. The only question is, can our pathetic OL block effectively against KSU’s DL????
On the injury front, Hughes (this is really bad for TCU) is out for the season, but Ansel Din-Mbuh should return. Payne is 50/50.

TCU’s offense will likely need 5 or 6 TDs to win this game, so it’s dueling QBs.

Key Statistical Areas (2025 Season)
  • Defense:
    • Stop Rate: Ranks 77th in the nation at 59.3% ahead of Week 7 of the 2025 season.
    • Points Per Drive: Ranks 77th at 2.20 Pts/Drive allowed ahead of Week 7.
    • Run Defense: Ranked 116th nationally, allowing 181.6 rushing yards per game.
    • Defensive Line: Expected to be strong, with at least six or seven players capable of starting for other Big 12 teams. However, the loss of Big 12 Defensive Lineman of the Year Brendan Mott after the 2024 season has impacted the rush defense.
    • Secondary: Considered a potential weakness, relying on transfers and young players with limited experience at cornerback. They have shown improvement weekly but faced a significant challenge against Baylor's receivers.
    • Fourth Down Conversions: Allowed more conversions through the first three games (10) than all of last season (9).
  • Offense:
    • Time of Possession: Ranks 128th nationally, indicating difficulties getting off the field defensively.
    • Passing Yards: Quarterback Avery Johnson has 1,363 passing yards and 10 touchdowns.
    • Rushing Yards: Avery Johnson also contributes significantly to the rushing attack with 209 yards and 3 touchdowns.
    • Receiving Yards: Jayce Brown leads the team with 390 receiving yards and 3 touchdowns.
Current rankings

Scoring O 27.5 PPG 77th
Scoring D 26.8 PPG 93rd
Rushing O 143.3 ypg 107th
Rushing D 167.7 ypg 107th
Passing O 226.3 ypg 71st
Passing D 208.3 61st
Tot O 369.7 77th
Tot D 376.0 81st
sacks for 2.17 pg 71st
sack against .67 pg 9th

Johnson is 57th in passing YPG and 74th in Pass Eff., Brown is 183rd in YPC

Not your typical KSU team as of late.
 

Wexahu

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Current rankings

Scoring O 27.5 PPG 77th
Scoring D 26.8 PPG 93rd
Rushing O 143.3 ypg 107th
Rushing D 167.7 ypg 107th
Passing O 226.3 ypg 71st
Passing D 208.3 61st
Tot O 369.7 77th
Tot D 376.0 81st
sacks for 2.17 pg 71st
sack against .67 pg 9th

Johnson is 57th in passing YPG and 74th in Pass Eff., Brown is 183rd in YPC

Not your typical KSU team as of late.
Looking at their depth chart, they are very experienced, lots of 4th-6th year players, but they don't have much top level talent. One preseason all conference player, a LB.
 

82 Frog Fever

Active Member
obviously, your takes are interesting to me and pretty solid.

offense: spins around avery johnson's game. what would have been a solid receiving corps has been missing a couple starters - brown and bradley - altho the former played some at baylor. dylan edwards has a high ankle sprain, i think, thus he's not as effective as hoped - not sure he plays saturday.

defense: leaky. strength is the line/pass rush, not so against the run. meh otherwise. have gone to a four man front.

special teams: edwards out as punt returner. kick returner also out. kicking game is very good. punting is unpredictable - from excellent to bad.

coaching: from my perspective, a large part of the struggle this year has been the loss of assistant coaches - o'coordinator/line coach to cowboys, earlier collin klein to aTm, strength coach to usc. avery johnson has played for four different coordinators.

home field: generally k-state is better in manhattan. forecast 80 degrees and dry. sold out - 50,000+.
I believe Bradley is still out and Edward’s reaggravated his injury vs. BU.
 

tetonfrog

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The key for the TCU D is to keep Johnson in the pocket, pressure him and then get some picks form the DBs. He will kill you with his legs,but can be erratic with his throwing. He will make the tough pass and then miss the easy one.

If our shaky OL can give Hoover time, he will carve up KSU's secondary. Army also exploited their safeties on the perimeter in the run game as well.
 

froginmn

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The key for the TCU D is to keep Johnson in the pocket, pressure him and then get some picks form the DBs. He will kill you with his legs,but can be erratic with his throwing. He will make the tough pass and then miss the easy one.

If our shaky OL can give Hoover time, he will carve up KSU's secondary. Army also exploited their safeties on the perimeter in the run game as well.
Two man tackle is best, as his dad and brother demonstrated. Great form tackling.
 
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