Is 10 the new 12?

[YA]

QUOTE(2314 @ May 19 2010, 04:16 PM) [snapback]561712[/snapback]
Not diminishing your point that everyone watches because it is the Rose Bowl. I agree with that. But, on New Year's Day, with everyone already tuned into bowl games, it is the ONLY game on in its time slot. The other's you mentioned are prime time and NOT on NYD, with the exception of the Orange, which kicks off after Rose, on New Year's Day EVENING.

You meant the Sugar Bowl.

 

[2314@work]

QUOTE(YA @ May 19 2010, 04:49 PM) [snapback]561726[/snapback]
You meant the Sugar Bowl.

2314 thanks the counselor for his correction.
Point is (and we all know when Shack realizes he is wrong he never admits it) that the Rose Bowl runs unopposed. Does anyone know why Shack mentioned NON New Year's Day bowls in his silly argument?????

 

[gohornedfrogs]

QUOTE(KillerFrog InD KitchenSink @ May 19 2010, 10:17 AM) [snapback]561505[/snapback]
Are the condidtions actually better for the launch of a 10 team conference era instead of a superconference era?


The answer to this is NO. The Big 10 sets the agenda for college sports more than any other conference. If they expand and their path to the national championship game has to go through a conference championship, then they are going to put a lot of pressure on the others to have to do it, too. Thus, the Pac-10 and Big East will have to expand, and the Big 12 will have to replace whatever they lose.

There is no way that Delany and the presidents of the Big 10 universities are going to let Texas or Oklahoma or USC skate right into the national championship without playing a conference championship game if the Big 10 teams are playing one. And Delany will get the support of the SEC on that one.

 

[KillerFrog InD KitchenSink]

QUOTE(gohornedfrogs @ May 19 2010, 05:03 PM) [snapback]561729[/snapback]
The answer to this is NO. The Big 10 sets the agenda for college sports more than any other conference. If they expand and their path to the national championship game has to go through a conference championship, then they are going to put a lot of pressure on the others to have to do it, too. Thus, the Pac-10 and Big East will have to expand, and the Big 12 will have to replace whatever they lose.

There is no way that Delany and the presidents of the Big 10 universities are going to let Texas or Oklahoma or USC skate right into the national championship without playing a conference championship game if the Big 10 teams are playing one. And Delany will get the support of the SEC on that one.

Doesn't the 10 team conference championship, if it goes through, rule take care of those concerns? Your points seem like an argument for leagues like the SEC and Big 10 to vote for the 10 team league championship game rule.

And if that rule goes into effect, that will encourage leagues that are at 10 to stay there, as that will be the point where the revenue is potentially maximized, depending on how the league is set up (leagues that own their own network like the Big 10 will still have motivation to get bigger).

 

[Endless Purple]

QUOTE(halfwaytoheaven @ May 19 2010, 11:33 AM) [snapback]561607[/snapback]
there's nothing wrong with having two good teams face off more than once.


Rematches in the same season are LAME. Say TCU stomps Utah during the regular season and three weeks later plays them again in a title game. It's bad weather and Utah wins by 1 point while losing in most of the stat categories. Are really going to think Utah is the right conference champion? Why should the second game be more inportant than the first?

That carries over to the idea of a 10 team conference having a championship game. With an 8 game conference schedule, it is almost a guaranteed rematch. If they drop down to 6 conference games and 6 OOC games, it might work.

A true conference champion comes from a full round robin schedule - not just because the word "title" is added to the last game.

 

[gohornedfrogs]

QUOTE(KillerFrog InD KitchenSink @ May 19 2010, 06:10 PM) [snapback]561731[/snapback]
Doesn't the 10 team conference championship, if it goes through, rule take care of those concerns? Your points seem like an argument for leagues like the SEC and Big 10 to vote for the 10 team league championship game rule.

And if that rule goes into effect, that will encourage leagues that are at 10 to stay there, as that will be the point where the revenue is potentially maximized, depending on how the league is set up (leagues that own their own network like the Big 10 will still have motivation to get bigger).

Ahhh....I see the caveat about the championship game. It seems a little strange for a 10-team league to have one. Do they actually have divisions, or do they do a modified round-robin like the Big 11 currently does? Seems like a funky way to schedule, and a re-match in the championship game is all but assured.