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I am just accepting the reality of TCU Football

webb3201

Member
I am in my 50s and realizing that in my life , the standard for Football at TCU has been poor. I was fortunate to live through a 20 year period of greatness powered by one of the best Athletic Directors in the business and a truly remarkable , hall of fame level Head Coach. This period was one where things came together in a way that will most likely not be repeated. It was aberration, not a sustainable state.
 

RichardASukup

New Member
I am in my 50s and realizing that in my life , the standard for Football at TCU has been poor. I was fortunate to live through a 20 year period of greatness powered by one of the best Athletic Directors in the business and a truly remarkable , hall of fame level Head Coach. This period was one where things came together in a way that will most likely not be repeated. It was aberration, not a sustainable state.
Of course the great Gary Patterson. Offense wins game, Defense wins Championships.
 

Frogs1983

Full Member
I am in my 50s and realizing that in my life , the standard for Football at TCU has been poor. I was fortunate to live through a 20 year period of greatness powered by one of the best Athletic Directors in the business and a truly remarkable , hall of fame level Head Coach. This period was one where things came together in a way that will most likely not be repeated. It was aberration, not a sustainable state.
Seen more losing football at TCU in my life than winning football. In my early 60's. I never thought TCU football would be allowed again to sink to the low level it has gotten to the past year and a half , after the past 20 plus years of success. Truly sad what is being allowed to happen currently!
 

Sangria Wine

Active Member
Glad I was able to participate in the greatest period in modern history for TCU football. Sad I watched us eat our own and foolishly assume we had the ability to flip a switch and somehow have a better version than we had in our midst. I hate that I was right in my evaluation of the hire. I hate that I feel right that GMFP, for all his flaws, should have been given the opportunity to be left alone and able to choose his own fate. I hate that we lost CDC, I hate that we’ve become what we have become. I am not optimist that my kids will ever see another golden era. The sport is changing by the day and the program is in shambles without a strong, visionary leader. #PUKE
 

Frogfam4

Active Member
serious question. Would Patterson be a good option to bring back? If not who can bring TCU football back from this pathetic state
 

froglash88

Full Member
serious question. Would Patterson be a good option to bring back? If not who can bring TCU football back from this pathetic state
I think yes. Many won’t agree. He could structure the staff to have others deal with NIL and profit sharing. With a new NIL clearinghouse next year, it should clean up that mess to some degree.
 

Klaw

Active Member
I think yes. Many won’t agree. He could structure the staff to have others deal with NIL and profit sharing. With a new NIL clearinghouse next year, it should clean up that mess to some degree.
This is almost as dumb as bringing back Sonny next year.

Do you remember the last 3 years of GP? It was terrible like this season and last season.

GP is too old and the game has changed. We need solid defensive coaches like Matt Campbell or Barry Odom.
 

FrogBall09

Active Member
This is almost as dumb as bringing back Sonny next year.

Do you remember the last 3 years of GP? It was terrible like this season and last season.

GP is too old and the game has changed. We need solid defensive coaches like Matt Campbell or Barry Odom.
It was never as bad as this…Houston just ran us off the field and SMU beat us like we were G5
 

bc puckett

Active Member
serious question. Would Patterson be a good option to bring back? If not who can bring TCU football back from this pathetic state
As great as LHCGMFP was the history of coaches returning to a previous place of employment is bleak at best. Yes Bill Snyder is a exception
 

Hemingway

Active Member
Glad I was able to participate in the greatest period in modern history for TCU football. Sad I watched us eat our own and foolishly assume we had the ability to flip a switch and somehow have a better version than we had in our midst. I hate that I was right in my evaluation of the hire. I hate that I feel right that GMFP, for all his flaws, should have been given the opportunity to be left alone and able to choose his own fate. I hate that we lost CDC, I hate that we’ve become what we have become. I am not optimist that my kids will ever see another golden era. The sport is changing by the day and the program is in shambles without a strong, visionary leader. #PUKE
Would GP ever had hired K Briles… ?
 

Purple Hearted

Active Member
I grew up with a Dad that went to every game and took me with him. My first distinct memory was of the Frogs playing UT in the snow at ACS in '74 and getting strummed. A whole bunch of similar memories followed (except for the 84 season). It was that way while I was a student at TCU and then the '98 season occurred. Didn't know it then, but that was the front end of, for the most part, a wonderful string of football seasons for the Frogs.

I was very much against letting GP go. I was very surprised that I was in the minority in that most seemed to support the decision to let him go. I made the comment a few times to friends-family that we would come to regret that decision down the road but then the '22 season happened and I looked like an idiot. Here we are a year and a half later though and I am haven't been this apethetic about TCU football since that last couple of years under Sullivan.

I was a kid during the F.A. Dry years but I remember my Dad always commenting about how hard the Frogs played and that win or lose they had earned his support. Despite some very rough seasons, I always felt the Frogs were as tough and physical as our talent allowed under Wacker (funny, I was against letting him go as well). The vibe that I get from watching this year's team is akin to how I felt during the last two years under Sullivan..... No overall identity, no juice or excitement, physically soft with some nice skill players that don't have the right parts around to let them truly shine and a coach that seems to have no answers for how to right the ship.

A lot of people both within and outside the program worked so, so hard for a lot of years to make TCU football a respected, national program. You have to fight just as hard once it's earned to keep it. I don't see that watching this team and I don't feel it when I'm in the stands. For as long as it took to get us to that point, it doesn't take much to lose it and I feel like we've now lost it. I don't see it getting better with this staff.
 

PineyWoodsFrog

Active Member
serious question. Would Patterson be a good option to bring back? If not who can bring TCU football back from this pathetic state
No. He was fired for a reason. His last few years looked just like we have looked the last 2 years. We'd just be replacing bad with bad. I don't know who can do it, but whomever the next guy is will need to bring some great players along with him, whether it be in recruiting or portal bcuz we do not have good players on this roster and honestly we haven't for a long time now with the exception of 1 year.
 

grumpyoldman

Active Member
I grew up with a Dad that went to every game and took me with him. My first distinct memory was of the Frogs playing UT in the snow at ACS in '74 and getting strummed. A whole bunch of similar memories followed (except for the 84 season). It was that way while I was a student at TCU and then the '98 season occurred. Didn't know it then, but that was the front end of, for the most part, a wonderful string of football seasons for the Frogs.

I was very much against letting GP go. I was very surprised that I was in the minority in that most seemed to support the decision to let him go. I made the comment a few times to friends-family that we would come to regret that decision down the road but then the '22 season happened and I looked like an idiot. Here we are a year and a half later though and I am haven't been this apethetic about TCU football since that last couple of years under Sullivan.

I was a kid during the F.A. Dry years but I remember my Dad always commenting about how hard the Frogs played and that win or lose they had earned his support. Despite some very rough seasons, I always felt the Frogs were as tough and physical as our talent allowed under Wacker (funny, I was against letting him go as well). The vibe that I get from watching this year's team is akin to how I felt during the last two years under Sullivan..... No overall identity, no juice or excitement, physically soft with some nice skill players that don't have the right parts around to let them truly shine and a coach that seems to have no answers for how to right the ship.

A lot of people both within and outside the program worked so, so hard for a lot of years to make TCU football a respected, national program. You have to fight just as hard once it's earned to keep it. I don't see that watching this team and I don't feel it when I'm in the stands. For as long as it took to get us to that point, it doesn't take much to lose it and I feel like we've now lost it. I don't see it getting better with this staff.
Jim Wacker.... My dad knew him. He spoke at my high school sports banquet my senior year.... way back in 1976. Nice man with a good sense of humor and incredible energy.
 

Goo

Active Member
It took so long to get here!

I remember watching pulling down the goal posts in 1998 in front of 1,000 fans. I remember seeing Tomlinson in an empty stadium. I remember A&M taking over our stadium in Thanksgiving 1995. I remember not being top 25 for two decades. I remember no one going into the stadium.

It took 20 years of winning to build a program. Now we’ve finally got:

sold out games regardless of opponent
local fans who do didn’t attend TCU
Top 20 facilities and coaches pay

We’ve finally got all this and it seems we are pissing it away. The AD, coaches, players don’t know it took Patterson (and crew) 25 years to get here. 25 years of finding undiscovered recruits, 25 years of game planning, 25 years of being forced to play one game series AT Nebraska, AT Clemson, AT OU, AT UT.

It’s like working your whole career at a blue collar job, amassing a savings account, then having your son in law net it all on Tesla calls in 2022 and lose 90%

Dykes/Donati walk into sound out stadium, every game nationally televised, city on board, brand new facilities/stadium, p4 conference, etc.

It took so long to get here. I’m worried 25 years of work can be dismantled in 2-3 years.

I fully
 

Goo

Active Member
We are back to the late 1970s, early 1980s. Pre Wacker days

We are selling out the stadium and have 90% student attendance.

Trust me. It can get a lot worse. Wacker days the stadium was empty. I think I counted 30 people at one kickoff in 1995. Community viewed TCU as University of North Texas/UH, sort of joke. I knew lots of students that went four years without attending a single game.

It can get much worse.
 
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