Congrats to Denver. Pretty good tournament overall. Disappointed I couldn’t be in Boston as it would have been my 15th Frozen Four but I had surgery last Monday which stopped me from going and sadly the next 4 are out of my travel range. As always kind of sad to see a season come to an end
@Frozen Frog @froginmn I appreciate the info here, bc puck. The previous and future sites both show that for regionals the east coast hosts two, and like this year sometimes three of the four regionals. The Midwest and Colorado have to share the other two and too often just one. This favors fans on the east coast for regionals, but I suspect it is due to availability of more arenas and/or bidding. I believe the tournament requires “neutral” arenas, meaning arenas which are not on-campus, so Mariucci Arena on the Minnesota campus is out. I think on-campus sites were determined to be too advantageous and eliminated decades ago.Not sure about any East Coast Bias. Regional sites since 2015:
2015: Providence, Manchester NH, South Bend, Fargo, FF: Boston
2016: Allentown, St Paul, Cincy, Worcester, FF: Tampa
2017: Cincy, Fargo, Providence Manchester, FF: Chicago
2018: Sioux Falls, Bridgeport, Worcester, Allentown FF St Paul
2019: Fargo, Allentown, Providence, Manchester, FF Buffalo
2020; Covid
2021 Bridgeport, Manchester, Fargo, Loveland FF Pittsburgh
Also future sites as follows:
Frozen Four: Future dates and sites
A complete listing of the future dates and sites for the men’s DI college ice hockey championship.www.ncaa.com
So it may lean a little East but certainly not in a "biased" way. Cities make bids and we all know the NCAA will chase every last nickel
You're right about the on-campus sites having been eliminated (at least for now). The other issue with Mariucci (and some others) is that I'm fairly certain that it has an Olympic sized (200 x 100) ice sheet which the NCAA doesn't want and would be an even bigger edge for the home team.@Frozen Frog @froginmn I appreciate the info here, bc puck. The previous and future sites both show that for regionals the east coast hosts two, and like this year sometimes three of the four regionals. The Midwest and Colorado have to share the other two and too often just one. This favors fans on the east coast a bit for regionals, but I suspect it is due to availability of more arenas and/or bidding. I believe the tournament requires “neutral” arenas, meaning arenas which are not on-campus, so Mariucci Arena on the Minnesota campus is out. I think on-campus sites were determined to be too advantageous and eliminated decades ago.
Maybe having more fans in close proximity for attendance in the New England States and New York matters in the selection process but I will assume it is simply availability or better east coast bids—just the way it is and the east coast fans and teams benefit. It is difficult to impossible to distribute sites perfectly equitable and, maybe, one could argue that two sites on the east coast is always appropriate, one not being enough to represent their numbers. But with that logic, then it would be appropriate to always have one site in/near Minnesota and one in/near Michigan, and the absence of those two sites or even one of them while always having two or three in the east is the imbalance.
The Frozen Four site wanders, and it gets good attendance anyway.
Goofy rule? You can pull your goalie for an extra attacker. Sometimes it works (Cornell scored a goal) and often you get burned (Minnesota got an empty netter against St. Cloud).#1 seed Minnesota advanced to the Frozen Four, defeating St. Cloud State, 4-1.
Boston U. narrowly advanced over Cornell 2-1. Narrowly, only because a goofy rule in hockey, allowed desperate Cornell, down 2-0 in the final minute, to add an extra skater, or man-advantage, which made it dicey close, Cornell almost stealing this game, jeepers—
“The Big Red did not go quietly. With goalie Ian Shane pulled for an extra skater, Dalton Bancroft finished off a scrum in front of the BU net to cut the deficit to 2-1 at 59:32. With about 10 seconds to go, Bancroft had a chance to tie it with a shot at an open net, but BU defender Lane Hutson blocked the shot to save the victory.”
I thought that might get some attention, but I believe it is a goofy rule, just stuck in tradition because it gives a stimulating chance for the desperate team and its fans to steal the game they are a minute away from losing, while essentially penalizing the team who earned the win over 59 preceding minutes. It is 6 on 5, like a penalty is 5 on 4, a “man advantage.” Why penalize the team about to win, and earned it. It appears goofy/unreasonable; it is unjust.Goofy rule? You can pull your goalie for an extra attacker. Sometimes it works (Cornell scored a goal) and often you get burned (Minnesota got an empty netter against St. Cloud).
You could have a soccer goalie run out of the box on an attack in the same way, can have all of your DB's blitz in football, etc.
Football has on side kicks... Completely disagree that ability to pull a goalie is goofy.
Regardless, glad that the Gophers got to Tampa and hope they can keep rolling. They've won several titles but none since repeats in 2002/3 despite multiple appearance in the Frozen Four.
Hope this is their year!
It’s not 6 on 5, it’s 6 on 6. Just one team chooses to have a goalie and one takes a chance by not having one. It’s simply an alignment change.I thought that might get some attention, but I believe it is a goofy rule, just stuck in tradition because it offers excitement to the desperate team that is about to lose, while essentially penalizing the team who earned the win over 59 preceding minutes. It is 6 on 5, like a penalty is 5 on 4. Why penalize the team about to win, and earned it. It is unjust.
I may defend the thought further, later, if I have the energy, haha. And I am confident I won’t have a MAN ADVANTAGE!
There is no “one takes a chance by not having one (a goalie)” because the team has nothing to lose in the last minute, because they are conceding they have lost with the status quo; they are desperate. It does not matter if they lose 2-0 because of an empty-net goal, versus 1-0; they are both losses!It’s not 6 on 5, it’s 6 on 6. Just one team chooses to have a goalie and one takes a chance by not having one. It’s simply an alignment change.
The other team could pull its goalie to make it 6 on 6 skaters....There is no “one takes a chance by not having one (a goalie)” because the team has nothing to lose in the last minute, because they are conceding they have lost with the status quo, they are desperate. It does not matter if they lose 2-0 because of an empty-net goal, versus 1-0; they are both losses!
And it is referred to as 6 on 5, not 6 on 6; show me in any newsprint where it is referred to as 6 on 6 instead of 6 on 5. I am not making that up. A man advantage.