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Dogfrog

Active Member
It is on Dixon tho to try to get the ball in Punch's hand with 6 secs left in that spot of the floor. Even if he catches it he is the worst ft shooter on the team. He should be on the bench or the last option in that situation, not the one running to the ball for the catch in the corner.
A big issue at the end was Punch limping around with cramps. Even had to sit for a stretch. He’s a forward forced to play the five all season. Without our two injured centers we are one of the smallest teams in college basketball. It’s pretty unbelievable how well we have rebounded. Edmonds fouled out. It was a horrible loss, not making excuses. Just happy to see how well we played for 38 minutes in that environment. The Harding free throws were critical. His clutch free throws he made in the Florida game won the game. This was hard to watch but I’m not wetting myself like some.
 

froglash88

Full Member
A big issue at the end was Punch limping around with cramps. Even had to sit for a stretch. He’s a forward forced to play the five all season. Without our two injured centers we are one of the smallest teams in college basketball. It’s pretty unbelievable how well we have rebounded. Edmonds fouled out. It was a horrible loss, not making excuses. Just happy to see how well we played for 38 minutes in that environment. The Harding free throws were critical. His clutch free throws he made in the Florida game won the game. This was hard to watch but I’m not wetting myself like some.
With Punch cramping up, why were we inbounding to him at a crucial moment in the game? Doesn’t make sense.
 
With Punch cramping up, why were we inbounding to him at a crucial moment in the game? Doesn’t make sense.
That may have been why he wasn’t quite aggressive enough in corralling that ball, using his body better to block that defender from gettin a hand on the ball, or Punch having the burst to get separation and get that pass sooner and clean before the defender could interfere.
 
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Really stings for the players and staff to be so close to getting a huge road win on their first road trip, and in Kansas, and a 2-0 start at the top of the Big 12. Would have been remarkable for a team assembled like this with all new pieces except for Punch and Micah.

The rebounding has been a big surprise from where they started; the staff has done a great job getting this team to do what is necessary, play hard, well and jell. Fast, hard-nosed and fun to watch. Appreciate this!
 
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Rose Bowl

Active Member
One question, what should JD have done tactically that could have changed the outcome?

At the end of the day, the players were the ones missing free throws and making brainless fouls. Dumb turnovers didn’t help either.
 

PurpleBlood87

Active Member
One question, what should JD have done tactically that could have changed the outcome?

At the end of the day, the players were the ones missing free throws and making brainless fouls. Dumb turnovers didn’t help either.
How about when the team looked panicked with under two minutes to play take a timeout to settle them down.
 

frog525

Active Member
One question, what should JD have done tactically that could have changed the outcome?

At the end of the day, the players were the ones missing free throws and making brainless fouls. Dumb turnovers didn’t help either.
Call time out and settle them down. Or don't take the air out of the ball and stall with 5 mins left. Or have Micah Robinson in the game with a minute to go instead of Punch- better ball handler and ft shooter. Or foul on the catch of the inbound with 6 secs left.

I think Dixon could have done just about anything differently tactically and we probably would have won. Everything had to go wrong for us to lose and it did.
 

TopFrog

Lifelong Frog
Call time out and settle them down. Or don't take the air out of the ball and stall with 5 mins left. Or have Micah Robinson in the game with a minute to go instead of Punch- better ball handler and ft shooter. Or foul on the catch of the inbound with 6 secs left.

I think Dixon could have done just about anything differently tactically and we probably would have won. Everything had to go wrong for us to lose and it did.
Again, the players failed to execute, made poor decisions, missed key shots. Posey's foul was mind- and game-blowing.
 

hometown frog

Active Member
One question, what should JD have done tactically that could have changed the outcome?

At the end of the day, the players were the ones missing free throws and making brainless fouls. Dumb turnovers didn’t help either.
Who he had in the game in that last minute of play should have changed. Punch w cramps should have been on the bench. Robinson and maybe bug should have been in. As bad as Harding is on FTs, he’s your best ball handler. So I think he had to be in there and you have him trigger the inbounds or set screens to open up other guys.

you either foul the big w the ball w 4 seconds or you let their stud attempt the spinning 28 footer. Defender on the big was playing straight up feet on the ground. Posey came flying in trying to foul. (That’s gotta be coaching screaming out what to do in the huddle.

JD watched about 5 consecutive trips down the court deteriorate into last second shoot attempts w no flow. Instead of running set plays against a hard flashing KU defense trying to take away every screen. (That’s totally coaching issues)

JD then allowed his defense to play under screens over and over and allow KU players to show open looks behind the arc when that’s the only thing that could kill you.

then I’d say on that last regulation inbounds play w 1.4 left, where we tossed it 95’ into the camera line, I just know a guy like billy Tubbs is gonna have a trick play ready to call that’s been practiced so many times to draw a foul or get a guy at least a look at a logo three. (See his play against A&M drawing a block off the guy guarding the inbounds to let our best FT shooter shot to win the game.) Instead all 5 guys looked lost like a mid afternoon pickup game at the Y.

yes, guys missed critical FTs. Yes guys had bad turnovers. But damn if the coaching decisions/indecisions didn’t cost us so much more last night. as somebody above stated, panic usually sets in from the top down
 

tetonfrog

Fan Club
It was a total collapse from the CJD sitting on his hands doing nothing to players doing everything possible to lose the game. Ku totally rattled us with their full court press. It looked like we had never seen a press before and were totally unprepared. We were outcoached, outplayed and looked scared down the stretch.

I don't see how we recover from this. We were 6 seconds away from 2-0 in the Big 12 and now we are starting at 1-3 with Zona and BYU ready to pounce on us. The only thing that could make things worse is if Punch is hurt and could potentially miss time. That would be the dagger for our season.
 

Frog Attack II

Active Member
Well, it's happened 3 or 4 times this year already.... So it's definitely a trend that they need to get over ..Some of the same posters saying that it's not CJD's fault (and it's the players' fault ) for MBB are the same ones that said that it was all on Dykes when our football team would make stupid, undisciplined plays.

So which is it?
 

frog525

Active Member
Again, the players failed to execute, made poor decisions, missed key shots. Posey's foul was mind- and game-blowing.
Yes they did fail to execute but this has been an issue multiple times this year as well as previous years. So, at some point its on Dixon to work on these end of game situations and have your team play with poise down the stretch. This is professional basketball these guys should act like they have prepared for the moment.
 

Froggy Style

Active Member
Who he had in the game in that last minute of play should have changed. Punch w cramps should have been on the bench. Robinson and maybe bug should have been in. As bad as Harding is on FTs, he’s your best ball handler. So I think he had to be in there and you have him trigger the inbounds or set screens to open up other guys.

you either foul the big w the ball w 4 seconds or you let their stud attempt the spinning 28 footer. Defender on the big was playing straight up feet on the ground. Posey came flying in trying to foul. (That’s gotta be coaching screaming out what to do in the huddle.

JD watched about 5 consecutive trips down the court deteriorate into last second shoot attempts w no flow. Instead of running set plays against a hard flashing KU defense trying to take away every screen. (That’s totally coaching issues)

JD then allowed his defense to play under screens over and over and allow KU players to show open looks behind the arc when that’s the only thing that could kill you.

then I’d say on that last regulation inbounds play w 1.4 left, where we tossed it 95’ into the camera line, I just know a guy like billy Tubbs is gonna have a trick play ready to call that’s been practiced so many times to draw a foul or get a guy at least a look at a logo three. (See his play against A&M drawing a block off the guy guarding the inbounds to let our best FT shooter shot to win the game.) Instead all 5 guys looked lost like a mid afternoon pickup game at the Y.

yes, guys missed critical FTs. Yes guys had bad turnovers. But damn if the coaching decisions/indecisions didn’t cost us so much more last night. as somebody above stated, panic usually sets in from the top down
He did the same things vs ND and Baylor. I just don't know if he's too stubborn or truly believes it's just about execution. He's failed too many times late in the game and needs to look in the mirror. That is Buddie's job to notice the trend and bring it up in a weekly meeting.
 

Rose Bowl

Active Member
I would have fouled up 3 at the end of regulation. I would have run an OOB play for LT as he’s our best FT shooter. I will say the first one we ran was a good design we just didn’t execute it right and then I think we got gunshy.

Wouldn’t have mattered if our PG could make a damn FT.
 
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