AroundWorldFrog
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There's a lot of us that remember the 70s and 80s and 90s. First game I literally ever went to as a kid was a 81-16 loss to Texas. I don't want to see that again. Or year after year of 6-6.
Gameday Thread: TCU vs Cyclones (Game Moved to 1PM)
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AroundWorldFrog
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Gary has been handsomely rewarded by TCU for his accomplishments. We do have the infrastructure in place to compete. But blaming fans for losses and similar BS is just beyond sad.
Putt4Purple
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I agree. We are not at that level yet so lets not lose our heads about a loss. Some posters are. Go Frogs!
Mean Purple
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Guess you missed 2014, 2015, 2017 where we competed very well for the Big 12. Proving we can expect that level.
Moose Stuff
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I hope literally NOBODY involved with this program is using “not yet as bad as the 70’s-90’s” or “we haven’t lost to Texas 81-16 yet” as their threshold for when it’s time for a change.
Froggish
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I would say your right 99.5% of the time but even the greatest of coaches haven’t given their employer what GP has...Are you aware that we have cashed over 100 million dollars in checks in the last 8years because of what GP has accomplished? Lot of people’s sons and daughters are getting their education because of that money..That’s the rarity of this situation.
I’ll say it again the best case scenario is that people within the University can help him see that the game is passing him by and it never comes to a drag him out situation
AroundWorldFrog
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We could eventually hire Chris Petersen. CMFCP looks a lot like CMFGP
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BigRedFrog
KMA
Time for a come-to-Jesus talk from Donati. Someone has to make GP see the trouble this program seems to be in.
Wow … 3-2 and people want to walk GP out on the plank. Think there are a bunch of spoiled brats on this site... if we were a big state school with all the big star recruits every year... one could understand the whining. But lets get realistic.
We're a small private school that has tied for the B12 title one year and played in the CCG another year over the past 7 seasons. We've finished #2 and #3 last 10 yrs, with a great Bowl record too. So lets just chill out and finish the season 1st.
JimSwinkLives!
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Wrong. It's 100% of the time.
Putt4Purple
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I agree. One loss or even one losing season does not mean panic. Two or more? We shall see. I personally uphold coach GP in the highest regards for bringing the program where it is compared to the past. His success has raised the expectations of some people beyond reason at times, I think!! Go Frogs.
Eight
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when you had a ga coaching your linebackers that isn't a great look when they can't recruit off campus.
they did a better job in the last class, but it sure as hell takes forever for kids to get up to speed to play linebacker in this defense.
defensive end is another train wreck in recruiting from 2015-2017 when you go back and look at the careers of the 8 kids signed during that time.
offensively, we have no identity and that comes from trying to run a little bit of everything with an oc who never has built and offense, a co-oc who is basically a recruiter, a receiver coach who has coached 3 different offensive positions and got demoted from oc, a new receiver coach who is new to coaching, and then you o-line coach who is doing the best job of the offensive staff though i think the receivers are starting to play better.
Froggish
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The proper move is still to move him into another roll not to fire him..That’s what you owe him..
JimSwinkLives!
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If you want to cling to nostalgia and hold tight to the little engine that could identity, be my guest. And if you can't see going 9-8 in the last 17 regular season games isn't a major cause for concern that actually does invite a legitimate discussion as to whether Patterson is still suited for his current position, then I can't help you.
JimSwinkLives!
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Don't owe him anything but gratitude for past accomplishments. Period.
Eight
Member
the fact tcu has basically disappeared from the metroplex and houston area in recruiting this year and how those 8 games have been lost (similar reasons) are a disturbing trend
Putt4Purple
Active Member
We are NOT State University with universal appeal or cash! I do not think reality has set in for some people to think coaches will come to this job as TCU coach and be instantly successful. Nothing in life guaranteed. Ask Tennessee or Jerry Jones.
We owe him time to fix this.
Make changes in the offensive staff and go from there. If GP balks, sit him down, make him watch tape of the games again and make him watch himself on the sideline. GP is a smart guy. Even he can see that we are lost on offense. Everyone is frustrated. And, yeah, his D needs some tweeks, too.
If he cannot get it done, then...…….
smufrogger
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Not only Baylor but look at smu.
You can’t trll me either school has better facilities
Eight
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the thing about being fearful of change is that change is going to happen regardless.
no one said a new coach comes in and the frogs are winning the big 12.
merely that gary's position isn't a life time position and when a head coach either doesn't have the will or energy to continue to evolve with game then it is time to consider a change.
