Gameday Thread, B12 Opener: TCU vs UCF; Sponsored by Community National Title

[Limey Frog]

We need to go 5-wide a few times with the first option being Hoover running through an opening if it’s there. In today’s game the defense has to be at least thinking the qb can take off for a few yards at any time.

From the third and six at the goal we should have run for as many as we could get then given Hoover a stretch play to fake a pass then tuck and run for the score. Kicking was stupid. It was obviously all or nothing. Losing by one is still nothing.

 

[Ranidaphobia]

Has anyone seen post game recaps from our team yet? Only seeing the ones for UCF currently

 

[Trelvis]

Kicking the FG to go up 6 was dumb. That helped nothing.

 

[Limey Frog]

That's kind of the point with regards to the defense. They couldn't get off the field. UCF racked up over 500 yards of offense, including 289 rushing yards. Gashed us and threw over us.

BTW TCU rushed for 58 yards. 58.

Yes but first half they were getting stops when they were fresh and playing at speed. The difference was that we were driving the field on offense. But how were we doing it? Converting third and ten situations endlessly on passes to the middle in traffic. That's not a recipe for sustained success in crunch time. UCF is built to win games in the fourth quarter. Against good teams, we're built to rack up yards in losing efforts.

I'm not saying the defense didn't make its own mistakes in the second half, I'm just saying--as I have since we hired Briles, that when this scheme stalls out it's the worst because it kills your offense and defense. Say what you want about Kirk Farentz at Iowa, but his useless offense chews clock and give their defense a rest before they punt. They don't throw three screens and use eight seconds of game time.

I actually watched the game list night with a buddy who was at Baylor in the Briles years. He kept saying how familiar it all was. This is what a Brilesball team losing looks like.

 

[LSU Game Attendee]

It's not delusion. Obviously we're a better team and we'll do better this year. I think we can go 8-4. But we have coaches who are committed to an offensive system that cannot beat the best teams, even when it finds itself up by 18 points at home in the second half. TCU football might play our way into opportunities to be a championship team, but with this offense we'll immediately play our way back out again.

Hoover is great. He deserves a run game to help him. Our defense is better. They deserve not to get killed on TOP and gassed by trans that are actually committed to coaching linemen on run blocking schemes.

Savion was incredible. Hoover threw a bunch of great balls last night, but Williams really bailed him out on the slant TD thrown 4-5 feet behind him.

 

[FloridaFrog76129]

Bring back Jarret Anderson to coach the offensive line!

Underrated post…

 

[Ranidaphobia]

Looking at the defensive stats I'm much more forgiving of #13 getting beat on those plays. Hard to play on an island when your leading the team in tackles as well. LBs and D line needs to show up better in run defense. I thought Elarms-Orr would have had a monster game.

 

[Frawg]

They are going to run the ball up the middle…….!!!!!!

Just incase no one noticed that is the same play they called 90% of the time. How about 3 D Tackles and 2 DE’s. Instead we had our LB’s outside the TE’s in case they tricked us.

Losing Dominic Williams really showed last night.

 

[The TCU Football Jerk]

We knew we had to score. Burning clock with rushing wouldn’t work. We averaged 3 yards/carry. Running backs that perform like that get dropped mid year in the NFL. If we had run the ball, the entire board would be complaining that we switched to our least efficient offense and gave the game away. UCF switched to pass coverage knowing that Cook would bounce everything outside so no threat to break a run. Defenses will start doing this across the board. Our season is quickly becoming a hope for bowl eligibility.

When you have a 3 score lead, you rush the ball. Period

 

[Rabidfrog]

Feel that many here are ganging up on Briles and the O because they don't like him. Sometimes the D has to get a stop. Period.

 

[TopFrog]

Feel that many here are ganging up on Briles and the O because they don't like him. Sometimes the D has to get a stop. Period.

Agree. The run game needs to improve. But I put this loss on the defensive side of the ball, squandering that lead at home.

Not to say UCF is not a damned good offensive team. They are stout and we knew that entering the game. But when you have them down 31-13 in the second half that is just inexcusable to lose IMO.

 

[FroggleRock]

I think we saw why our run blocking had been perceived as a strength in fall camp. When you stack the box with 8 and you’re still getting gashed like that, that says a lot.

 

[tetonfrog]

I think we saw why our run blocking had been perceived as a strength in fall camp. When you stack the box with 8 and you’re still getting gashed like that, that says a lot.

DL was manhandled the entire second half. All they did was get blocked. It did not help that we missed a ton of tackles, too.

 

[The TCU Football Jerk]

Agree. The run game needs to improve. But I put this loss on the defensive side of the ball, squandering that lead at home.

Not to say UCF is not a damned good offensive team. They are stout and we knew that entering the game. But when you have them down 31-13 in the second half that is just inexcusable to lose IMO.

There's a reason Patterson hated these Briles type of offense and he was right. The best defense is keeping your defense off the field.

 

[Horny4TCU]

There's a reason Patterson hated these Briles type of offense and he was right. The best defense is keeping your defense off the field.

It only works if you keep scoring. And even then, you're going to give up a lot of points. See TCU at BU 2014. Between the home cooked time keeping and number of snaps, our defense couldn't stop that last drive due to all the fatigue.

 

[The TCU Football Jerk]

It only works if you keep scoring. And even then, you're going to give up a lot of points. See TCU at BU 2014. Between the home cooked time keeping and number of snaps, our defense couldn't stop that last drive due to all the fatigue.

If you control the clock with a 3 touchdown lead, you don't need to worry about more scoring genius. Its football 101. Cause they won't have enough time to overcome your lead. You're speaking out of both sides of you mouth without even realizing it. The reason why our D was gassed was because our offense couldn't stay on the field. Because they kept passing and not running the ball enough. Throwing in an equal amount of rushing plays keeps the clock running. The clock continues to run after running plays. Our rushing average was 3.4 yards a play. Perfectly serviceable. Geez. Crawl back into your ignorant hole.

 

[bmoney214]

If you control the clock with a 3 touchdown lead, you don't need to worry about more scoring genius. Its football 101. Cause they won't have enough time to overcome your lead. You're speaking out of both sides of you mouth without even realizing it. The reason why our D was gassed was because our offense couldn't stay on the field. Because they kept passing and not running the ball. Geez. Crawl back into your ignorant hole.

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[The TCU Football Jerk]

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Sorry, sick of the brain deads that think they know what they're talking about on here. Freakin morons.

 

[bmoney214]

Sorry, sick of the brain deads that think they know what they're talking about on here. Freakin morons.

Hey we're all frustrated and upset after last night. No need to take it out on each other. We need to focus all that anger towards the my little ponies this week. We're their Super Bowl now that florida st sucks.

 

[Horny4TCU]

If you control the clock with a 3 touchdown lead, you don't need to worry about more scoring genius. Its football 101. Cause they won't have enough time to overcome your lead. You're speaking out of both sides of you mouth without even realizing it. The reason why our D was gassed was because our offense couldn't stay on the field. Because they kept passing and not running the ball enough. Throwing in an equal amount of rushing plays keeps the clock running. The clock continues to run after running plays. Our rushing average was 3.4 yards a play. Perfectly serviceable. Geez. Crawl back into your ignorant hole.

Did you just read what you wanted to in my post just so you can be an arschloch?

What part of what I said was wrong? Do you not remember the Briles era at Baylor? High scoring no defense teams, that lost games because of their gassed defense. Literally the only reason they had success was because they out scored teams in shootouts, not shut outs. Briles and Patterson were the perfect antithesis and Patterson won the series with Briles.