FWST: Why Deion Sanders can’t wait to play at TCU again

[TopFrog]

Why Deion Sanders can’t wait to play at TCU again​

Steven Johnson

FRISCO -- NFL Hall of Famer Deion Sanders has dozens of memorable moments during his illustrious career in football from winning Super Bowls to molding Travis Hunter into a Heisman Trophy winner.

One of those moments came on Sept. 2, 2023, when Sanders led Hunter, his son Shedeur and Colorado to an 45-42 upset over TCU at Amon G. Carter Stadium.

While that moment was the first sign of a disappointing season for the Horned Frogs, it provided immediate legitimacy to Sanders, who was coaching in his first game at the FBS level after leaving Jackson State.

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[namollec]

Give 'em hell, TCU.

 

[BrewingFrog]

He pulled Sonny's pants over his head once before at AGCS.

 

[Wexahu]

He pulled Sonny's pants over his head once before at AGCS.

Not unlike how Sonny pulled GP's pants over his head in 2019 and 2021.

 

[tetonfrog]

Not unlike how Sonny pulled GP's pants over his head in 2019 and 2021.

What does that have to do with CU beating us in '23? But thanks again for defending CSD at every opportunity. Great job!

 

[Wexahu]

What does that have to do with CU beating us in '23? But thanks again for defending CSD at every opportunity. Great job!

I'm just countering the people like Brewingfrog who take every opportunity to take shots at him because he made GP look bad.

Thanks, I'll keep doing it.

 

[Mean Purple]

I'm just countering the people like Brewingfrog who take every opportunity to take shots at him because he made GP look bad.

Thanks, I'll keep doing it.

Nothing in his post mentioned GP.
What, did GP not sign an autograph for you or something?
Or is it just your constant desire to be contrarian?

 

[Wexahu]

Nothing in his post mentioned GP.
What, did GP not sign an autograph for you or something?
Or is it just your constant desire to be contrarian?

This post didn't mention Sonny either until Brewing brought him up, in a condescending way as always.

I don't get this "always want to be a contrarian" thing. How is that any different than you? I think it's crap how a good percentage of the fan base treats our head coach, given the record he has. Especially when you consider what he took over. How is that contrarian, I've been very consistent about that.

If we go 7-5 over the next couple years, Sonny is fair game and should probably start looking for jobs, as it should be. But why not be supportive while he is our coach, and at the very least not have a condescending, [ Finebaum ]ty attitude towards him.

 

[NovaScotiaFrog]

This post didn't mention Sonny either until Brewing brought him up, in a condescending way as always.

I don't get this "always want to be a contrarian" thing. How is that any different than you? I think it's crap how a good percentage of the fan base treats our head coach, given the record he has. Especially when you consider what he took over. How is that contrarian, I've been very consistent about that.

If we go 7-5 over the next couple years, Sonny is fair game and should probably start looking for jobs, as it should be. But why not be supportive while he is our coach, and at the very least not have a condescending, [ Finebaum ]ty attitude towards him.

1) Article specifically mentioned Sonny Dykes and Deion's relationship with him. Bringing up Patterson, on the other hand, was a total non-sequitur.
2) Could be wrong, but I don't think Sonny's detractors have much to do with his record. I guess you could argue 2022 helped people ignore some of it, but getting 9 wins on a bad schedule and ending unranked doesn't wash the stink off of bringing in Baylor scumbags / [ Baylor accusations ] apologists. The bad to mediocre record is the cherry, not the sundae.

*HA, word filter accentuates my point.

 

[Wexahu]

1) Article specifically mentioned Sonny Dykes and Deion's relationship with him. Bringing up Patterson, on the other hand, was a total non-sequitur.
2) Could be wrong, but I don't think Sonny's detractors have much to do with his record. I guess you could argue 2022 helped people ignore some of it, but getting 9 wins on a bad schedule and ending unranked doesn't wash the stink off of bringing in Baylor scumbags / [ Baylor accusations ] apologists.

*HA, word filter accentuates my point.

Look at Brewings post, which is what I responded to. Do you think there was any purpose to that, other than take a shot at SD? Was that a post that added to the discussion in any way? And he does it all the time. He'd never make a similar post about GP.

If it's not his record, what do people not like about Sonny? It's really that he brought in Kaz and Briles? Uh, I don't think that's it at all. I think it has everything to do with being hired by the guy that fired GP, and him making GP look pretty bad by taking his 5-7 team and going 13-2 in his first year.

 

[Double D]

7-5 over the next few years vs 14-11 since 2022... What's the difference?

This post didn't mention Sonny either until Brewing brought him up, in a condescending way as always.

I don't get this "always want to be a contrarian" thing. How is that any different than you? I think it's crap how a good percentage of the fan base treats our head coach, given the record he has. Especially when you consider what he took over. How is that contrarian, I've been very consistent about that.

If we go 7-5 over the next couple years, Sonny is fair game and should probably start looking for jobs, as it should be. But why not be supportive while he is our coach, and at the very least not have a condescending, [ Finebaum ]ty attitude towards him.

 

[NovaScotiaFrog]

If it's not his record, what do people not like about Sonny? It's really that he brought in Kaz and Briles? Uh, I don't think that's it at all.

I think that's a much bigger part of it than you do, apparently.

(also, I wasn't around at the time, but post histories appear to be available, and I am seeing a lot of Patterson criticism from @BrewingFrog in the run up to the firing. I don't agree with your thesis of it being about making Patterson look bad).

 

[Wexahu]

7-5 over the next few years vs 14-11 since 2022... What's the difference?

Well, 13-2 in the year prior to 14-11.

You don't fire a guy who, three years into his tenure, has the best record in the conference (tied), unless you just want to be an idiot and don't want any good coaches to come here, unless they just see it as opportunity to get in and get out quick.

People like you are who I'm talking about. Were you paying attention in the decade prior to 2022? Care to cite was our record was during that time?

 

[Wexahu]

I think that's a much bigger part of it than you do, apparently.

(also, I wasn't around at the time, but post histories appear to be available, and I am seeing a lot of Patterson criticism from @BrewingFrog in the run up to the firing. I don't agree with your thesis of it being about making Patterson look bad).

We'll probably just have to agree to disagree on that.

From my experience in the time I've spent around our fan base the last few years, and also observing what I see on here, that's a big, big part of it.

 

[Mean Purple]

This post didn't mention Sonny either until Brewing brought him up, in a condescending way as always.

I don't get this "always want to be a contrarian" thing. How is that any different than you? I think it's crap how a good percentage of the fan base treats our head coach, given the record he has. Especially when you consider what he took over. How is that contrarian, I've been very consistent about that.

If we go 7-5 over the next couple years, Sonny is fair game and should probably start looking for jobs, as it should be. But why not be supportive while he is our coach, and at the very least not have a condescending, [ Finebaum ]ty attitude towards him.

A. article mentions the game that Brewing was talking about.
B. That loss was a bad look.

 

[BrewingFrog]

Just put him on "ignore" like I did months ago.

 

[Wexahu]

A. article mentions the game that Brewing was talking about.
B. That loss was a bad look.

And I mentioned how SD pulled the pants over some other coaches heads too. It happens. Probably just as relevant a comment as Brewings, which isn't very.

LOL. Yeah, Brewing has always demonstrated a lot of fairness when discussing SD.

 

[tetonfrog]

I'm just countering the people like Brewingfrog who take every opportunity to take shots at him because he made GP look bad.

Thanks, I'll keep doing it.

You are welcome. But the whole CSD/GP debate is dumb.

This is Sonny's program now. He has a done a good job, but there are no more excuses. His first freshmen class are seniors now. He has had 4 years to create his own program. The university raised ticket prices because they think this team is special. Now, they have to back it up on the field. If we struggle this year, I don't want to hear a word about how it's GP's fault.

The cupboard may have been bare at the beginning (especially in the OL and DL), but Sonny even said it himself at the Big 12 Media Days: We should compete for the Big 12 Championship every year. There is no need to bash GP any more because he is long gone. Your defense of Sonny is as weak as GP's biggest supporters who forget his last 4 years.

Let's go Frogs!

 

[Rose Bowl]

Sonny has gotten a lot of leeway, rightfully so, because of’22. We’re now 3 years past that and we have been lousy to average and in this conference that is unacceptable. The good news is that we have the talent to be really good we just have to show it on the field.

 

[Wexahu]

You are welcome. But the whole CSD/GP debate is dumb.

This is Sonny's program now. He has a done a good job, but there are no more excuses. His first freshmen class are seniors now. He has had 4 years to create his own program. The university raised ticket prices because they think this team is special. Now, they have to back it up on the field. If we struggle this year, I don't want to hear a word about how it's GP's fault.

The cupboard may have been bare at the beginning (especially in the OL and DL), but Sonny even said it himself at the Big 12 Media Days: We should compete for the Big 12 Championship every year. There is no need to bash GP any more because he is long gone. Your defense of Sonny is as weak as GP's biggest supporters who forget his last 4 years.

Let's go Frogs!

I don't disagree with this at all. But who is making excuses?

I only defend Sonny to those who insist that that things are worse now than they were before he got here.

I will say competing for the championship "every year" is quite the bar, depending on what your definition of competing is (we haven't competed for a conference championship every year since about 15 years ago and I don't think not having UT and OU in the conference really changes THAT much), but if the program is getting stale and not showing many signs of life in the next year or two then it'll be time to move on. Heck, it might even be this December if things go poorly enough, but that time is definitely not now.