Mean Purple
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dude, you're getting like that guy who runs the comic book store on the Simpsons.
FWST: Where do Sonny Dykes, TCU football stand after collapse vs. Iowa State?
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I bet Ricker, the OL coach, is the fall guy if we collapse down the stretch. Sonny will talk about how the OL issues hampered Briles' playcalling. There is no way he fires Briles. They are almost like kin.
Limey Frog
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So, in theory, even if TCU isn't currently the kind of program that tends to make its own luck, we should go 2-2 in November. Perhaps if we went 1-3 we and could point to some obvious strokes of unavoidable misfortune that made the difference between 2-2 and 1-3 that would work out to a mora equivalent.
Limey Frog
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BleedNPurple
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It was kind of hard to fire Briles last year after we went on that end of the season run. It looks like everyone has our offense figured out - even when we win they seem to know our plays and signals.
BleedNPurple
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November has historically been the toughest month. We wouldn’t be talking as much about it if we had beaten the team we were beat the team we were beating that we were supposed to beat last week
Sangria Wine
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Briles wouldn’t have to be fired. He could get an equal or better job at the drop of the hat. Plenty of schools wish he was their OC. How many wish SD was their head coach?
Spike
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A better O line and most of us could call the plays. Not personally a fan of Briles but I commend the job he's done the last year and a half. It's hard to cute your way around a weak O line.
Spike
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Could be undefeated, maybe 1 loss at this point w an O line.
BrewingFrog
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Then, by all means, let him hit the road!
By my lights, he is regarded as someone who can do a moderate job, who has done so at several stops, but cannot improvise or adapt, and lacks player development skills. None of those are resume enhancers, and every day he continues to fail at TCU dims his future prospects that much more.
This is why we are stuck with him as long as Sonny is here: The Whelp/Nepo Boy just isn't very good at his job, but he's "family" and therefore cut far and away more slack than anyone ought to be.
Froggy Style
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I used to think Briles deserved more leniency, but I have changed my mind. The guy is the definition of doing the same thing over and over, but expecting different results.
He just runs the same dumb running play over and aver as if he’s mad that Dykes gave him a quota of running plays. Yes, he goes backwards on said plays, and we give away three or four drives in the first half and then wonder why the other team is always so close or ahead.
We then get creative to score some points, before going back to the predictable while allowing the other team to mount their comeback.
I’m not sure why the pro Sonny crowd is arguing for, we have watched this same routine go on and on. This is our experienced team and QB. This is as good as he gets. We saw last year with a WR at QB that the OL can block fine. It’s the scheme and the person calling the plays. He has a limited amount of plays…but then reverts to really bad play calling.
On one of our biggest short yardage conversions needed, he sends the RB in motion and you could hear the defense adjust. Allowing a 3-3-5 to know they don’t need to stay close to the line for a running play. They drop in to coverage and incomplete pass. That one call may have lost the game…and it’s not the first time we’ve done it. Which means that is on both of our offensive geniouses .
Team had been decimated by injuries,..all they had to do was prep for the scheme…but the just ran their same old plays.
He just runs the same dumb running play over and aver as if he’s mad that Dykes gave him a quota of running plays. Yes, he goes backwards on said plays, and we give away three or four drives in the first half and then wonder why the other team is always so close or ahead.
We then get creative to score some points, before going back to the predictable while allowing the other team to mount their comeback.
I’m not sure why the pro Sonny crowd is arguing for, we have watched this same routine go on and on. This is our experienced team and QB. This is as good as he gets. We saw last year with a WR at QB that the OL can block fine. It’s the scheme and the person calling the plays. He has a limited amount of plays…but then reverts to really bad play calling.
On one of our biggest short yardage conversions needed, he sends the RB in motion and you could hear the defense adjust. Allowing a 3-3-5 to know they don’t need to stay close to the line for a running play. They drop in to coverage and incomplete pass. That one call may have lost the game…and it’s not the first time we’ve done it. Which means that is on both of our offensive geniouses .
Team had been decimated by injuries,..all they had to do was prep for the scheme…but the just ran their same old plays.
Jet Set Frog
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The play calling on Saturday was really confusing to me. Briles usually has a trick or two up his sleeve that he can pull out in "must gain" situations to get yards when we need them.
There was such a lack of creativity, imagination and adjustment on Saturday that was so confusing. It was almost like he was limiting the playbook like you would a game you expect to win easily so as not to tip your hand to the next more difficult opponent. Either that or his give-a-damn is just busted.
Limey Frog
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I don't believe anyone wants Briles but I hope you're right. I don't believe a better job than TCU would want Dykes. I guess we'll find out on both counts.
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Plays either work or they don't. It didn't seem to be a good game for Briles but a couple weeks ago he was criticized for not running Barnes more. He gave it to him 15 times Saturday and he gained 25 yards. So now it's he's not creative enough. But when he does try and get creative people say he's just trying to impress people and get "cutesy".
I get the frustration but there is also pretty abysmal blocking at times, dropped passes, etc. To those that say he needs a running QB for the system he has traditionally run to work as well as it should, I think there is some merit to that. I think having a QB that is essentially NO threat to run is proving to be an issue because defenses just aren't accounting for it at all and I think that probably bottles up the rest of the offense.
Big Frog II
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The thing that made me the maddest about our offense last week was the two times we got into the red zone in the second quarter. Both times we ran the ball up the middle for basically no gain twice. The second series that we did it, everyone around me was looking at each other going what the hell. Those two trips in the red zone netted 3 points. Briles seems to be pretty good between the 20's, but does not do well inside.
Basically to me this team is just sloppy.
Basically to me this team is just sloppy.
I hear ya, but you know what would have happened if we threw it on 1st and 10 and 2nd and 10 and they were incomplete, don’t you? What an idiot, why the hell aren’t we running the ball, he’s so pass happy!
When plays work it’s the right call. When they don’t it’s not. Had a couple of the long pass receptions been sacks instead, those would have been bad calls. Had a couple of the runs in the second half that went for decent yards been stuffed, those would have been bad calls. Easy to second guess after the fact.
Virgil Cain
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I’m more convinced now that this is a personnel issue than a Briles issue. I saw multiple times where one of our OGs got de-cleated or pin balled backwards about 2-3 yards into the backfield by ISU LBs, it was comical and looked like something out of a video game. We have a bottom five OL and likely the worst interior OL in the country. Deery is acceptable and Powers has been much better than the other guys but overall that is our weakest position group by a mile.
We should be better off when our senior laden interior OL moves on because it can’t get any worse, but I suppose we’ve all been saying that for two years.
We should be better off when our senior laden interior OL moves on because it can’t get any worse, but I suppose we’ve all been saying that for two years.
Frogfam4
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The O line does not seem like there is a guy that is mean and nasty. I mean a guy that will block to the whistle. I do not mean a dirty player. I also feel that our strength coach is not getting them football strong. TCU looks weaker than every other team we play.
HornyWartyToad
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This Is Who He Is. Zoom up and down the field quickly, come away with no points, put the already-gassed defense back on the field. Wash rinse repeat.
Froggy Style
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The personell problem are the decision makers. They decide they want a pure passer at QB, so they recruit passing OL. Then they conclude we aren't running enough but you're stuck with a fumbling passer at QB and OL that are more suited to creating a pocket than mauling forward for running yards and winning a game. These guys are stuck in 2005, and aren't envisioning anything new until they are behind the 8-ball. It that way for the long term thinking, medium term, and short term during the game.
After the game, Sonny has an epiphany to ask Hoover to run more. I don't like the conclusion due to Mr. Fumbles, but so be it...perhaps he could have come to that conclusion about 5 games and three losses ago.
