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FWST: TCU likes coach Sonny Dykes. But does it like him enough to extend his contract?
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McFroggin
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SD has had multiple hires that TCU admin/fans were quite concerned about. Kazadi’s past alienated many from TCU. SD pulled off a playoff run and bought himself some slack. He used that capital to hire more staff that TCU admin/fans were not pleased with in Briles.
Since, we have had 1 year sub .500 and 2 years in which we can’t make the conference championship game in a league without UT/OU. Based on the last decade, we should have been able to elevate ourselves to be the team to beat. We should have an easier time making the playoffs now. Not so.
Our momentum plummeted. Our running game is the worst in decades. SD is closer to being on the hot seat than an extension. If we don’t make the conference championship game next year, it is time to move on.
Since, we have had 1 year sub .500 and 2 years in which we can’t make the conference championship game in a league without UT/OU. Based on the last decade, we should have been able to elevate ourselves to be the team to beat. We should have an easier time making the playoffs now. Not so.
Our momentum plummeted. Our running game is the worst in decades. SD is closer to being on the hot seat than an extension. If we don’t make the conference championship game next year, it is time to move on.
Frogs1983
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Will they? What do you base this statement on?
Chongo94
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Yeah I really feel like someone who had been here prior should have been more able to “read the room” in terms of any Briles member and TCU fans. And either he (Dykes) had absolutely no clue or he didn’t care.
I was shocked when he made that hire bc it just seemed ludicrous to do so given the majority of fan feelings. He wiped out a lot of good will he had built up with that hire. Had it worked out better, things would be different I’m sure.
No way am I buying Jeremy Clark’s assertion that “80%” of TCU fans liked and had no problem with Briles….yet another reason I don’t buy what that dude sells very often.
Based on the last decade? Really? What did the decade prior to SD’s arrival set us up for? We were a below .500 team and 16-21 in the conference in the last FOUR years before SD. That’s not really taking over a program that’s doing all that well. Our momentum had plummeted well before Dykes got here. In fact, that’s why he was hired in the first place.
Completely agree. It added to the post-championship gut punch and the sour taste in our mouths. Then, we got Primed and we watched the guy who beat out Mad Max do the exact opposite: lose close games we could have won. After the 5-7 season, the juice got totally sucked of our program.
Now, beating Houston is a "program changer." Bleeping Houston in their empty stadium......
Hopefully, this is at least a little less smelly. I will give Sonny credit for running off one his buddies. GP never did that. Now, he needs to fix the OL. The only guy who can make sure he does that is Hoover. He can give Sonny a "get me an OL or else I bolt to Tech" demand. If Sonny doesn't, then Josh may Leach him like that awful day in Lubbock when they pumped 70 on us. It would be worse because we'd have to watch Josh throw 7 TDs against us.
No way Sonny survives that. Even he realizes that, right? He wouldn't make it Monday.
So, in the end, what is more important? Hanging out with your buddies all day, getting your nuts shined by your pals or getting that extension with a possibility of a raise? We will see. Maybe he is smarter than we think?
Not directing this at you personally, just adding on from yesterday because I wanted to see what the actual results indicated, but the eight Big 12 holdover's average league finish the last two years (since the league went to 16 teams) is between 8th and 9th place. So exactly right in the middle. It might be a different Big 12, but apparently it's no easier for the schools still in it. This idea that you can't compare stats because the previous version of the league was "so much better with UT and OU" isn't really true IMO. All eight programs were negatively impacted to varying degrees.
BrewingFrog
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80%, eh. That's an embarrassing load of crap.
I attended a memorial service for a good friend about a week after the announcement of The Whelp. Most, if not all of the attendees were Frogs, and not a single person was in favor of the hire. In fact, most initially thought it was a bad joke, and when they learned it was the truth they were disgusted and angry. "Why would they do that?"
Indeed. Why?
Sonny knew damned well what he was doing, and he didn't give a ripe crap about what TCU or the fans thought. That hire pretty much destroyed whatever fondness I had for him, and his continued floundering, lack of control, and limp excuses have led me to "Fire him yesterday" status. I mean, screw that guy.
Sending the Agents/Lawyers in to get an extension at this time is brazen and insulting. I don't know exactly how much time we have left to suffer with this clown, but for my part, he doesn't get one second past the expiry of that contract if not sooner. If he wants to stay, and considering what suckers the previous AD and Administration have been in dealing with him, I'd say he needs to work a number of miracles. Miracles he is unable to perform because he hasn't seen to the finer details of the job: Fundamentals, Discipline, Poise, etc. TCU has largely been a mouthy, weak team out there, prone to collapse in the 4th. That won't win Championships, and like many have pointed out, 9 wins is probably the best we can do under present management.
Unless Sonny turns over a new leaf, starts acting like a Coach, pays attention to the finer points, TCU is on a descending trajectory. I don't know what a New and Improved (frankly, anything is an improvement here) OC/QB Coach, in that whoever they bring in will have his own "system" that everybody will have to learn that will take a couple of years to digest, the current lack of OL protection and lack of improvement in that area (if not degeneration over a 3 year period), but at least there's a chance of improvement with new blood/ideas.
I attended a memorial service for a good friend about a week after the announcement of The Whelp. Most, if not all of the attendees were Frogs, and not a single person was in favor of the hire. In fact, most initially thought it was a bad joke, and when they learned it was the truth they were disgusted and angry. "Why would they do that?"
Indeed. Why?
Sonny knew damned well what he was doing, and he didn't give a ripe crap about what TCU or the fans thought. That hire pretty much destroyed whatever fondness I had for him, and his continued floundering, lack of control, and limp excuses have led me to "Fire him yesterday" status. I mean, screw that guy.
Sending the Agents/Lawyers in to get an extension at this time is brazen and insulting. I don't know exactly how much time we have left to suffer with this clown, but for my part, he doesn't get one second past the expiry of that contract if not sooner. If he wants to stay, and considering what suckers the previous AD and Administration have been in dealing with him, I'd say he needs to work a number of miracles. Miracles he is unable to perform because he hasn't seen to the finer details of the job: Fundamentals, Discipline, Poise, etc. TCU has largely been a mouthy, weak team out there, prone to collapse in the 4th. That won't win Championships, and like many have pointed out, 9 wins is probably the best we can do under present management.
Unless Sonny turns over a new leaf, starts acting like a Coach, pays attention to the finer points, TCU is on a descending trajectory. I don't know what a New and Improved (frankly, anything is an improvement here) OC/QB Coach, in that whoever they bring in will have his own "system" that everybody will have to learn that will take a couple of years to digest, the current lack of OL protection and lack of improvement in that area (if not degeneration over a 3 year period), but at least there's a chance of improvement with new blood/ideas.
Mean Purple
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it was definitely a bad take. most of that interview seemed like a scramble due to lack of information. Sonny does play these type of moves fairly close to the vest.
I know you have me on ignore but you'll probably get a lot of likes for this. And then people claim they like Sonny just fine, they just don't think he's a very good coach. Yeah, right. Nothing personal at all, is it.
And by the way, I don't think I've run in to one TCU fan that has expressed an issue with the hiring of Briles. The subject never comes up, but that's because nobody really cares that much.
Limey Frog
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Football coaches are ambitious and typically egotistical. They're not going to sign a document that basically says "I don't believe I'll win". If you offer them massive incentives for success, low pay for failure, and tell them that there are other people who want the job (which will always be true) why can't you try to get a good coach without accidentally chaining yourself with golden handcuffs to a dud? I think it's possible.
ShreveFrog
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@Limey - I'd say Cignetti is a good coach. Look what he originally signed. Look where he and Indiana are now.
gohornedfrogs
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This Ain't Chopped Liver
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Maybe the most concerning personnel choice that Dykes has made was hiring Joe Gillespie. I didn’t like his thin resume in college ball at the time, and it appeared to be another Texas nepotism hire. I never liked that “bend but don’t break defense.” They held up OK in 2022, until the final two games, ha, but they likely would have been better with a more aggressive and experienced coordinator.
We were spoiled by Patterson’s aggressive “three and out” mantra, and though that defense broke at times, as a whole over many years, it was fun to watch and very effective. It built the program.
We were spoiled by Patterson’s aggressive “three and out” mantra, and though that defense broke at times, as a whole over many years, it was fun to watch and very effective. It built the program.
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Prince of Purpoole II
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Get outta here with your facts
