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FWST: TCU can only pray Jamie Dixon isn’t Pat Sullivan or this could get ugly

Possibly because Pressbox DFW is a pay site but Gil can post articles we can read without paying?

On that note, let me encourage you all again to subscribe to Pressbox DFW. It is money well spent.
I'd like to second this post. Pressbox is great. Gil LeBreton is his usual incredible self. The only problem with it is Ritchie Whitt spewing political crap in a sports letter, but I just ignore it.

Imaging that...simply ignoring something you don't like instead of asking for it to be banned or censored. What a concept!
 

Leap Frog

Full Member
Let me get this straight....Because Muck's articles hit you in all the wrong places, you want to limit my choice to read the article?

Don't ask TopFrog to do anything. Simply don't click. Choose not to read muck's articles. You have that right, to choose not to peruse articles that make you feel uncomfortable. But don't ask TopFrog to limit my choice.

Censorship is a slippery slope and that is exactly what you are proposing.

if you read Muck's stuff, and still are offended, then the problem may be you.
It's not rocket science, just don't click on to them so as not to be aggravated.
For me, I like to know what my enemies are saying-- I don't have to agree.
Censorship is an ugly thing-- you never know what will be the next thing someone wants banned.
 

Brog

Full Member
if you read Muck's stuff, and still are offended, then the problem may be you.
It's not rocket science, just don't click on to them so as not to be aggravated.
For me, I like to know what my enemies are saying-- I don't have to agree.
Censorship is an ugly thing-- you never know what will be the next thing someone wants banned.

Martin Niemueller, Germany, 1943:
First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
 
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HFrog1999

Member
Muck loves him some KF.c. Does he pick up some KFC before he sits down to steal content from KF.c?

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I'd like to second this post. Pressbox is great. Gil LeBreton is his usual incredible self. The only problem with it is Ritchie Whitt spewing political crap in a sports letter, but I just ignore it.

Imaging that...simply ignoring something you don't like instead of asking for it to be banned or censored. What a concept!
Well conceived and executed post. Would read again

/no sarc
 

wes

KIllerfrog Emeritus
Agreed, that's all he is, nothing more. I never click on his links when I know they are from him. It's still frustrating to see his [ steaming pile of Orgeron ] posting titles on the front page of KF.
Ok I’ll catch hell for this but it won’t be the first time and probably not the last.

But........I agree with the premise of the article

Pat Sullivan wanted that LSU job and we stood in his way, right or wrong.

It affected his coaching, recruiting and attitude.
Dixon is a different situation and has a completely different personality as well as approach to coaching but if he lets it get under his skin as Sullivan did, I could see things getting ugly

Frankly I don’t think that will happen.. as I said, Dixon is 180 degrees apart from Pat Sullivan and Dixon has the TCU connection that Sullivan never had but I could see where something like the Sullivan situation could evolve. It just depends on how we massage this going forward.

Ok.. I’m done
 
Ok I’ll catch hell for this but it won’t be the first time and probably not the last.

But........I agree with the premise of the article

Pat Sullivan wanted that LSU job and we stood in his way, right or wrong.

It affected his coaching, recruiting and attitude.
Dixon is a different situation and has a completely different personality as well as approach to coaching but if he lets it get under his skin as Sullivan did, I could see things getting ugly

Frankly I don’t think that will happen.. as I said, Dixon is 180 degrees apart from Pat Sullivan and Dixon has the TCU connection that Sullivan never had but I could see where something like the Sullivan situation could evolve. It just depends on how we massage this going forward.

Ok.. I’m done
OK, fair enough Here’s why I don’t agree with the premise:

Sullivan is shorthand around here for a guy who did not get his way and tanked because TCU stood between him and his dream job. To imply Jamie is capable of that kind of [ hundin] move is unwarranted imo. Having said that, I’m fine with ME articles being posted here. I read most and agree with few
 

wes

KIllerfrog Emeritus
OK, fair enough Here’s why I don’t agree with the premise:

Sullivan is shorthand around here for a guy who did not get his way and tanked because TCU stood between him and his dream job. To imply Jamie is capable of that kind of [ hundin] move is unwarranted imo. Having said that, I’m fine with ME articles being posted here. I read most and agree with few
I said Dixon was 180 degrees apart from Sully and didn’t think he would ever do something like let his disappointment become a barrier

Personally I think this is over and turned out the way it was supposed to
 

froginaustin

Active Member
I'd like to second this post. Pressbox is great. Gil LeBreton is his usual incredible self. The only problem with it is Ritchie Whitt spewing political crap in a sports letter, but I just ignore it.

Imaging that...simply ignoring something you don't like instead of asking for it to be banned or censored. What a concept!

I ignore the political crap on that site, too. But I’ve sent them my last subscription money. I’ll pay for George Will, and I do. But I won’t pay for a political eighth grader posting on a sports letter.
 

yurintroubl

Active Member
I know I'm never clicking the headline link... because I know it's a} not going to be real news... and b) there's a 35% chance I'll consider the content to be smug/stupid/negative.

Problem is - A lot of folks come here from places who don't know what I know. Be it a sports fan from another fanbase, a prospective student or athlete.... whatever. THOSE people are going to click on it because they are "exploring" TCU for whatever reason may be. Very little of what they would find on the other end of that link would be seen in a positive light... ESPECIALLY if they are under the impression the Star-Telegram is a longtime hometown news source.

Probably didn't convey that in words the way I feel it... there's a basketball game on. o_O
 

Dman890

Active Member
I said Dixon was 180 degrees apart from Sully and didn’t think he would ever do something like let his disappointment become a barrier

Personally I think this is over and turned out the way it was supposed to

This is Mac's MO: he wraps his [ deposit from a bull that looks like Art Briles ] within a nugget of truth.

In this case, of course we hope Dixon isn't like Pat Sullivan. But when he writes stuff like this he never accounts for the likelihood something is going to happen.
 

BrewingFrog

Was I supposed to type something here?
I said Dixon was 180 degrees apart from Sully and didn’t think he would ever do something like let his disappointment become a barrier

Personally I think this is over and turned out the way it was supposed to
It would have been instructive for an author/"journalist"/columnist to, perhaps, write a piece that illustrated the similarities and differences to the two situations, wouldn't it? Lay out the reasons as to why the school made the decisions they did, why the programs doing the wooing did what they did, why the two different coaches made the decisions they did. IN this way, the gentle reader might be able to understand more about the sometimes mysterious world of sports contracts and the jockeying that goes on around there.

But, in doing so, the mythical writer would be giving up two important powers: 1.) The ability to act as a High Priest of some mysterious religion, able to divine the future or fortune via rummaging through a pig's insides. The High Priest only reveals the smallest amount of wisdom to the cowed rabble, so that, in their hunger, they come back for more every day. If he reveals too much, then the rabble might divine that the High Priest, is full of it, much like the pig's insides he uses as an interesting prop... 2.) In the case of the swine we are discussing, he would pass on the opportunity to take the 2x4 to TCU yet again. Why write a piece that has the possibility of making the hometown University look good, even competent at their jobs, when you can do your level best to portray them as backstabbing thieves and generally unsavory? Scandal gets clicks. Nobody cares about an institution that does the "right thing." Writing boring stuff like that gets you fired...
 
I said Dixon was 180 degrees apart from Sully and didn’t think he would ever do something like let his disappointment become a barrier

Personally I think this is over and turned out the way it was supposed to
Ditto. For the record I did not think you were implying JD is the type who would conduct himself the way Sullivan seems to have done. My post was aimed at explaining why Engel’s premise was not well taken and in fact insulting to JD
 
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