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TCU’s offensive line eager to get back on track — or shake-up could be coming​

Steven Johnson

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Coming off of its worst performance of the year, TCU’s offensive line is eager for a bounce-back opportunity against Colorado at 6:30 p.m. Saturday at Amon G. Carter Stadium.

The Horned Frogs allowed Josh Hoover to be sacked six times and only rushed for 10 yards in the 27-24 defeat to Arizona State.

It was a shocking performance by an offensive line that had performed well in the previous three games. So what went wrong against the Sun Devils?

Paywall link: https://www.star-telegram.com/sports/college/big-12/texas-christian-university/article312325114.html
 

82 Frog Fever

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TCU’s offensive line eager to get back on track — or shake-up could be coming​

Steven Johnson

0930TCUOffensiveLine.JPG


Coming off of its worst performance of the year, TCU’s offensive line is eager for a bounce-back opportunity against Colorado at 6:30 p.m. Saturday at Amon G. Carter Stadium.

The Horned Frogs allowed Josh Hoover to be sacked six times and only rushed for 10 yards in the 27-24 defeat to Arizona State.

It was a shocking performance by an offensive line that had performed well in the previous three games. So what went wrong against the Sun Devils?

Paywall link: https://www.star-telegram.com/sports/college/big-12/texas-christian-university/article312325114.html
THIS IS A JOKE. “We’re trying to get some of those young guys ready,” Dykes said. “We think that maybe that can help us.“…..

Right now, TCU‘s 3 worst OLs are 3 home grown tackles. All 3 were signed out of HS by Dykes and trained/groomed within TCU’s program.
Hughes ‘24, Harris ‘22, and Taylor-Whitfield ‘23.

News Flash: TCU MUST SPEND MORE $$$$ on the OL!!!

The reason our highest graded OL from last year, Brockermeyer, is now gone, is because Miami bought him. Brockermeyer started all 12 games in ‘24, he was an All Big12 H.M., and likely would’ve been our highest PFF graded OL this year (71.5 from ‘24)

Spend more money to upgrade our front lines, or the Pop Tarts & Texas Bowl will be our highest attainable ceiling, and even those won’t be frequent.
 

Mean Purple

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we also have to be willing to run and accept short yardage. As the game goes on, that wears down the D line.
I think we under value short yardage on first down. 3 yards or more is a good start. have to keep the defense honest.
 

Wexahu

Full Member
THIS IS A JOKE. “We’re trying to get some of those young guys ready,” Dykes said. “We think that maybe that can help us.“…..

Right now, TCU‘s 3 worst OLs are 3 home grown tackles. All 3 were signed out of HS by Dykes and trained/groomed within TCU’s program.
Hughes ‘24, Harris ‘22, and Taylor-Whitfield ‘23.

News Flash: TCU MUST SPEND MORE $$$$ on the OL!!!

The reason our highest graded OL from last year, Brockermeyer, is now gone, is because Miami bought him. Brockermeyer started all 12 games in ‘24, he was an All Big12 H.M., and likely would’ve been our highest PFF graded OL this year (71.5 from ‘24)

Spend more money to upgrade our front lines, or the Pop Tarts & Texas Bowl will be our highest attainable ceiling, and even those won’t be frequent.
Well, yeah, "we" are going to need to spend more money, that goes without saying. How much are you in for?

Personally, I'm out. If our OL struggles because I'm not spending any on NIL and we lose players because of that, so be it.
 

Wexahu

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we also have to be willing to run and accept short yardage. As the game goes on, that wears down the D line.
I think we under value short yardage on first down. 3 yards or more is a good start. have to keep the defense honest.
I don't necessarily disagree with you, but easier said than done. And considering how our running game has been, I think generally we've run it enough on early downs, it just makes it hard when you are almost giving up downs.

And I guarantee you, the first time we run on 1st and 2nd down and pick up 2 yards setting up a 3rd and 8 that we don't convert, fans will be bitching about the play calls.
 

82 Frog Fever

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Well, yeah, "we" are going to need to spend more money, that goes without saying. How much are you in for?

Personally, I'm out. If our OL struggles because I'm not spending any on NIL and we lose players because of that, so be it.
Your post is so out of touch on this topic!!
NIL/Booster Money no longer has anything to do with player recruiting. (At least not legally)
NIL/Booster Collectives are being rapidly phased out. Most, at least 75%, of pay to play NIL/Booster schemes are being denied by Deloitte/NIL Go.
A new independent enforcement agency, the College Sports Commission, has been established to oversee compliance to the rules governing the annual revenue sharing cap, roster limits, and third-party NIL payments.
Player payments are now limited to the $20.5m NCAA Revenue Sharing Plan Cap (rising to $32m over the next 10 years), plus NIL private company commercial endorsements.
The playing field has been leveled.
The most important issue is how each team rations its money.
 
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Wexahu

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Your first sentence is so out of touch, booster money no longer has anything to do with player recruiting. (At least not legally)
NIL/Booster Collectives are being rapidly phased out. Most, at least 75%, of pay to play NIL/Booster schemes are being denied by Deloitt/NIL Go.
A new independent enforcement agency, the College Sports Commission has been established to oversee compliance to the rules governing the annual revenue sharing cap, roster limits, and third-party NIL payments.
Player payments are now limited to the $20.5m NCAA Revenue Sharing Plan Cap (rising to $32m over the next 10 years), plus NIL private company commercial endorsements.
The playing field is being leveled, but it’s very important how each team rations its money.
You really think so? As long as players are allowed to be paid and there is no cap, the playing field is not being leveled. The "plus NIL private company commercial endorsements" line is the key and makes all the difference in the world.

As soon as they allowed players to receive payments from outside sources and transfer freely, it was game over as far as any kind of level playing field. It's gotta be black and white, the NCAA (or any other organization) doesn't have the resources to monitor, regulate and enforce violations when there is a giant gray area.
 

Mean Purple

Active Member
I don't necessarily disagree with you, but easier said than done. And considering how our running game has been, I think generally we've run it enough on early downs, it just makes it hard when you are almost giving up downs.

And I guarantee you, the first time we run on 1st and 2nd down and pick up 2 yards setting up a 3rd and 8 that we don't convert, fans will be bitching about the play calls.
could be, but Sonny, et al have to focus on what wins. And part of that is wearing down the opponents d line. and its better than 3rd and 10 because of nothing but passes into the double coverage in the third quarter. Sonny said it on the radio show on Monday, he felt they should have run the ball more in the 2nd half. (he also pointed out how the defense played something like 85 snaps. )
All the fancy stuff in the world, if you can't run on offense (even short yardage) and get stops on d, you are headed to the cheese its bowl.
 

82 Frog Fever

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You really think so? As long as players are allowed to be paid and there is no cap, the playing field is not being leveled. The "plus NIL private company commercial endorsements" line is the key and makes all the difference in the world.

As soon as they allowed players to receive payments from outside sources and transfer freely, it was game over as far as any kind of level playing field. It's gotta be black and white, the NCAA (or any other organization) doesn't have the resources to monitor, regulate and enforce violations when there is a giant gray area.
Wow a conspiracy moron.
If you think private corporations are allowed to dump money off their balance sheets directly into player’s pockets, you’re wrong. It’s a reciprocal trade agreement, and every one of them over $600 is monitored by Deloitte.
 

tetonfrog

Fan Club
Your post is so out of touch on this topic!!
NIL/Booster Money no longer has anything to do with player recruiting. (At least not legally)
NIL/Booster Collectives are being rapidly phased out. Most, at least 75%, of pay to play NIL/Booster schemes are being denied by Deloitte/NIL Go.
A new independent enforcement agency, the College Sports Commission, has been established to oversee compliance to the rules governing the annual revenue sharing cap, roster limits, and third-party NIL payments.
Player payments are now limited to the $20.5m NCAA Revenue Sharing Plan Cap (rising to $32m over the next 10 years), plus NIL private company commercial endorsements.
The playing field has been leveled.
The most important issue is how each team rations its money.
Tell that to Texas Tech. Do you think their roster is built on the school's allotment? Come on. Has the NCAA busted ONE school for sidestepping the NIL rules? And Tech's mega booster said he will ignore the rules until the NCAA punishes them..............and then he will figure out a way to go around that.
 

Double D

Tier 1
Correct. Flying T Club shut down and ceased operations July 31st 2025.
Your post is so out of touch on this topic!!
NIL/Booster Money no longer has anything to do with player recruiting. (At least not legally)
NIL/Booster Collectives are being rapidly phased out. Most, at least 75%, of pay to play NIL/Booster schemes are being denied by Deloitte/NIL Go.
A new independent enforcement agency, the College Sports Commission, has been established to oversee compliance to the rules governing the annual revenue sharing cap, roster limits, and third-party NIL payments.
Player payments are now limited to the $20.5m NCAA Revenue Sharing Plan Cap (rising to $32m over the next 10 years), plus NIL private company commercial endorsements.
The playing field has been leveled.
The most important issue is how each team rations its money.
 

Wexahu

Full Member
Wow a conspiracy moron.
If you think private corporations are allowed to dump money off their balance sheets directly into player’s pockets, you’re wrong. It’s a reciprocal trade agreement, and every one of them over $600 is monitored by Deloitte.
Maybe I'm not understanding correctly. I was under the impression that outside the $20.5M paid directly by the schools, the players could make an unlimited amount as long as services for the pay was justified or reasonable or something along those lines (which if true is about the most vague rule ever). So if Longhorn Chevrolet wants to pay 5* OL Reggie Roadgrader $1M/year for being in some commercials and on some billboards pitching Tahoes and Suburbans that falls outside the $20.5M, that is perfectly legal.

If so, you might want to rethink that "conspiracy moron" accusation.
 
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82 Frog Fever

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Maybe I'm not understanding correctly. I was under the impression that outside the $20.5M paid directly by the schools, the players could make an unlimited amount as long as long as services for the pay was justified or reasonable or something along those lines (which if true is about the most vague rule ever). So if Longhorn Chevrolet wants to pay 5* OL Reggie Roadgrader $1M/year for being in some commercials and on some billboards pitching Tahoes and Suburbans that falls outside the $20.5M, that is perfectly legal.

If so, you might want to rethink that "conspiracy moron" accusation.
Regardless, I was out of line with that comment. Sorry about that.

Starting June 7, 2025, NCAA Division I student-athletes must report third-party Name, Image and Likeness (NIL) deals with a total value of six hundred dollars ($600) or more in the aggregate. The College Sports Commission will utilize NIL Go, an online portal built with assistance from Deloitte, to determine whether third-party NIL deals are made with the purpose of using a student-athlete’s NIL for a valid business purpose and do not exceed a reasonable range of compensation. Additional guidance on third-party NIL deal reporting will be provided to student-athletes as their institutions are onboarded to NIL Go.

 
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Wexahu

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Regardless, I was out of line with that comment. Sorry about that.
No worries. I just don't think there's been a leveling of the playing field at all. Haven't seen any kind of legislation or rule that would indicate that.

The only leveling of the playing field would be if they stop letting players move freely from team to team and retaining immediate eligibility, because the pay thing is out of the bottle, and there's no way rules with gray areas can be anywhere near enforced properly. Simply not enough people to do it.
 

82 Frog Fever

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Tell that to Texas Tech. Do you think their roster is built on the school's allotment? Come on. Has the NCAA busted ONE school for sidestepping the NIL rules? And Tech's mega booster said he will ignore the rules until the NCAA punishes them..............and then he will figure out a way to go around that.
You may be right on Tech, no way of knowing, and the new Rev Share/NIL rules regarding 3rd party deals did not go into effect until June 7, 2025.

I’d love to read what you have concerning these ”Tech mega booster“ comments that you referred to, “he will ignore the rules until the NCAA punishes them..............and then he will figure out a way to go around that.”
 

SW toad

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THIS IS A JOKE. “We’re trying to get some of those young guys ready,” Dykes said. “We think that maybe that can help us.“…..

Right now, TCU‘s 3 worst OLs are 3 home grown tackles. All 3 were signed out of HS by Dykes and trained/groomed within TCU’s program.
Hughes ‘24, Harris ‘22, and Taylor-Whitfield ‘23.

News Flash: TCU MUST SPEND MORE $$$$ on the OL!!!

The reason our highest graded OL from last year, Brockermeyer, is now gone, is because Miami bought him. Brockermeyer started all 12 games in ‘24, he was an All Big12 H.M., and likely would’ve been our highest PFF graded OL this year (71.5 from ‘24)

Spend more money to upgrade our front lines, or the Pop Tarts & Texas Bowl will be our highest attainable ceiling, and even those won’t be frequent.
I think most here over the last year can agree that James Brockermeyer had very little ability to get to the 2nd level, stop penetrating LBs between the guards, and really lacked a baby forward thrust booster.

Listen to yourself from last week when you gave the most honest assessment of a TCU Assistant coach I've ever read. AJ Ricker is the one you posted about last week. Who is this dude? you asked and elaborated. And I replied last weekend why do we have so many line of scrimmage and false start penalties?

Spending more and more money on NIL is like American Education organizations saying we have spent more money in this district, this state, that part of Chicago, or that part of Des Moines. Then the educators have produced the worst academic record for kids over the last 20 years.

Let me be crystal clear. A team and a rosters success in today's NIL/Portal success is not even 70% of it. The coaches still need to be 21st century motivators, train the kids via mental discipline not to jump offsides, tell the WRs and RBs to hold on to the ball tight, not don't drop the ball.

If Iowa State, ASU, Utah or even TCU defeat T Tech in the B12 Championship, this will prove my point. All are better coached teams than the tortilla/oil boys trying to be men.
 

SW toad

Active Member
Your post is so out of touch on this topic!!
NIL/Booster Money no longer has anything to do with player recruiting. (At least not legally)
NIL/Booster Collectives are being rapidly phased out. Most, at least 75%, of pay to play NIL/Booster schemes are being denied by Deloitte/NIL Go.
A new independent enforcement agency, the College Sports Commission, has been established to oversee compliance to the rules governing the annual revenue sharing cap, roster limits, and third-party NIL payments.
Player payments are now limited to the $20.5m NCAA Revenue Sharing Plan Cap (rising to $32m over the next 10 years), plus NIL private company commercial endorsements.
The playing field has been leveled.
The most important issue is how each team rations its money.
The college sports commission was pushed by a bunch of SEC and Big10 congressmen. Looks all nice and glossy on the surface but hinders teams in the west and Texas. Those same congressmen are blocking the SCORE act that will offer real concrete NIL Cap Space. The college sports commission prop has ten times the legalese as the Score act. If this, then that. but if, however, whatsoever.
 

SW toad

Active Member
we also have to be willing to run and accept short yardage. As the game goes on, that wears down the D line.
I think we under value short yardage on first down. 3 yards or more is a good start. have to keep the defense honest.
Most persons will not understand this concept and truth. Why did you post something that you know many can't Sync? No, just kidding, thanks for posting valid Bonafide tried and true points. CSD admitted to abandoning the run game at halftime. Who does that ?
 
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