Sangria Wine
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Albuquerque and Shreveport are both fantastic places to take a piss, get some food and fuel and keep on driving to your intended destination.
FWST: Outgoing TCU athletic director addresses football team’s bowl destination, controversy
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ShreveFrog
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@Sangria Wine - Have y’all added a second stoplight in Lipan, Texas?
Sangria Wine
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Hell, we don’t even have the first one yet. Not even a 4-way stop.
NewFrogFan
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Why would he start now? TCU fans never mattered to him. Like I have said Danny Morrison forgot more about being an AD than he will ever know.
Horned Frog Country
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It is really strange to me why as to why the Independence Bowl was not interested in TCU. That bowl made the most sense for what was available. It is less than a 4 hour drive from Fort Worth. Savion Williams is from Marshall which is less than an hour away from there. That would have been nice if he could play close to his family for what will likely be his last game at TCU. In any event, it is weird that Army is playing Marshall instead of TCU.
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ShadowFrog
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I hereby 2nd this post.
Avoid S-port. Get your gas on the Texas side of the border.
FrogBall09
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ummm.....because WE WOULD NOT GUARANTEE TO BUY ALL OF OUR TICKET ALLOTMENT....something every school does at every bowl game played if you want to go to even a half decent "no one cares" bowl game....
none of these crap ass bowl games sells out their tickets without the schools being forced to buy the majority and then they get "local leaders and businesses" to buy large amounts for civic duty - then they give the rest away and hope someone shows up for tv.
Your question should be why?
BrewingFrog
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Direct from the Interim AD:
"I am aware of a lot of confusion, and some misconceptions, on how we landed in a bowl game outside of the Big 12 Conference partnerships. Sharing the process with you is a priority.
Once the College Football Playoff field is set, there is an order of selection with our bowl partners. It begins with the Alamo Bowl and then continues with the Pop-Tarts Bowl, Texas Bowl, Liberty Bowl and Rate Bowl. Each game can take who they want, regardless of standings.
This year was very unique with one Big 12 team making the CFP and half the teams in the conference (8-of-16) having an overall record of 8-4 or better. There were a lot of successful teams competing for limited bowl spots. In case you were wondering how the Alamo Bowl wound up with two Big 12 teams, it’s through previous Pac-12 Conference contracts that departed members, like Colorado, carried with them to their new leagues.
After the Rate Bowl made its selection, the remaining opportunities go to ESPN Events owned games, like the Armed Forces Bowl, First Responder Bowl, New Mexico Bowl, etc. At that point, schools, respective bowl games and ESPN Events work together to find the right fit for everyone. It’s interchangeable. It’s how West Virginia landed in the Frisco Bowl against Memphis. This also happens with other conferences, as we saw with Oklahoma from the SEC coming to the Armed Forces Bowl to play Navy.
I was in regular contact with our bowl partners leading up to and on Selection Sunday. We ultimately received an invitation from the Isleta New Mexico Bowl. Contrary to some misinformation that has made the rounds, we did not turn down an invitation to another bowl. We’re excited to head to Albuquerque! I hope that you will join us there to cheer our Frogs on and prove we are a team that travels well and supports our student-athletes. Let’s get that 9th win and keep the momentum into 2025."
"I am aware of a lot of confusion, and some misconceptions, on how we landed in a bowl game outside of the Big 12 Conference partnerships. Sharing the process with you is a priority.
Once the College Football Playoff field is set, there is an order of selection with our bowl partners. It begins with the Alamo Bowl and then continues with the Pop-Tarts Bowl, Texas Bowl, Liberty Bowl and Rate Bowl. Each game can take who they want, regardless of standings.
This year was very unique with one Big 12 team making the CFP and half the teams in the conference (8-of-16) having an overall record of 8-4 or better. There were a lot of successful teams competing for limited bowl spots. In case you were wondering how the Alamo Bowl wound up with two Big 12 teams, it’s through previous Pac-12 Conference contracts that departed members, like Colorado, carried with them to their new leagues.
After the Rate Bowl made its selection, the remaining opportunities go to ESPN Events owned games, like the Armed Forces Bowl, First Responder Bowl, New Mexico Bowl, etc. At that point, schools, respective bowl games and ESPN Events work together to find the right fit for everyone. It’s interchangeable. It’s how West Virginia landed in the Frisco Bowl against Memphis. This also happens with other conferences, as we saw with Oklahoma from the SEC coming to the Armed Forces Bowl to play Navy.
I was in regular contact with our bowl partners leading up to and on Selection Sunday. We ultimately received an invitation from the Isleta New Mexico Bowl. Contrary to some misinformation that has made the rounds, we did not turn down an invitation to another bowl. We’re excited to head to Albuquerque! I hope that you will join us there to cheer our Frogs on and prove we are a team that travels well and supports our student-athletes. Let’s get that 9th win and keep the momentum into 2025."
Mean Purple
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you don't know that.
Mean Purple
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good riddance, ADJD. talk about not getting the job done.
Brog
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Tell us where you live, Purple, so we can give our expert opinions about it.
FrogBall09
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I do know that actually
Why are you always so mad?
We've gone to a lot of "crap ass" bowls in the last 25 years, whether we play in the New Mexico Bowl or Liberty Bowl is pretty irrelevant. I guess I don't understand why we would guarantee to buy all of our ticket allotment for a bowl very few people are going to care about anyway. Seems like a waste of money.
FrogBall09
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then why go at all? or why not just pick the bowl at our own stadium?
Its funny that you refuse to constantly correlate the idea that no fans are going because there is little to no excitement about our program at the moment...
in the last 25 years - that was not true - until now. We traveled great to San Diego, San Antonio, Phoenix....the school always sold off the allotment even in years we were not in a NY6 level bowl.
This year - they don't think our fanbase is going to show up to support - what has changed since you have all the answers but don't like mine
06DallasFrog
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One carefully worded line about the "misinformation" that translates into, "we told them not to invite us, so there's no truth to the rumor that we turned them down." In fact, I don't know that anyone really following the story ever believed that we turned down an invite.
It's funny that you insist that the supposed "lack of excitement" about the program is because of the former AD and the Head Coach. I went to three home games this year and didn't notice anything materially different than in years prior when we didn't have a really good team. There has ALWAYS been lots of empty seats at ACS.
Whatever lack of excitement there is, I think most of that has to be attributed to the fact that the Big 12 lost UT and OU, and so it doesn't have the same panache as it used to, AND the fact that we've already climbed the mountain so to speak. We've already been there....played in the NCG. And then throw in what has happened around college football and the rule changes....heck, I personally am not as excited about the program and it has absolutely nothing to do with Dykes or Donati.
Look at SMU....loving life, excitement at a all-time high, new P4 conference, rising from the ashes, blah blah blah. Let's see how excited they are about their program when the inevitable bad season or two hits them in the near future.
Toad Jones
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As I recall, not only do these bowls require you to buy your allotment of tickets, there is a fee just to be considered to be invited, this after the bowl committee first offers you a possible/maybe invite. I think that fee is 5,000 or 10,000 depending on the school. The higher you're ranking, the larger the fee. Is it a rip-off, ....possible. TCU often made millions off some bowls, plus media hype.. To be honest, the person who really makes the money is the original promoter. Again, the Cotton Bowl has stayed in the same hands for years and passed down. That is the income for the promoter/president for the year. Ha, most promoters are well known and endowed with money to start with.
A quiet number you won't hear is the *total honest payout to the schools. When TCU played in the national championship game, I'd bet it was several...several millions. Plus the media attention in reputation, sale of soft goods etc.
This bowl in NM will most likely cost TCU, and be a lost in revenue. But for the players, recruiting a win. Did I mention what the networks will pay to air the bowl game? Most major bowl games are owned by associations, like the Cotton Bowl Association.
**(The true payout number, not a quick answer.)
I'm sure there are holes in this post, as memory isn't as strong as a 30 yr old man.
Mean Purple
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if we win starting out in 2025, we'll have way more in the seats, as we did at the start of this year.
FrogBall09
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The atmosphere for Tech and OSU games this year were dead - and they have not been that way since we joined the B12. So even if you blame that we didn't have UT or OU this year - and got Az, Houston, etc in their place, all that does is emphasize why 8-4 in a mediocre conference with a mediocre schedule is not acceptable.
Fans don't care who our AD is - boosters do.
Fans care who our coach is only to the extent they want a winner to watch - and 6th place isn't a winner in today's world of the B12
froginaustin
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Thanks for posting something that actually has information (whether completely footnoted and sourced or not).
