FWST: From Ole Miss to LSU, Lane Kiffin has pulled a Sonny Dykes with one big exception

[TopFrog]

From Ole Miss to LSU, Lane Kiffin has pulled a Sonny Dykes with one big exception​

By Big Steaming Pile

The latest college football coaching cycle is the most outrageous, gross, and bingeworthy, ever, easily eclipsing the 2021 period that saw TCU’s Gary Patterson “resign,” Brian Kelly leave Notre Dame, Lincoln Riley bolt on Oklahoma for USC, and Florida nab Billy Napier.

The Lane Kiffin drama illustrates a problem in college football that is in desperate need of a solution that a team from Oxford should tackle. Not Oxford, Mississippi. Oxford University.

These coaching cycles, and contract talks, now eclipse the game. It makes college football coaches look like even worse examples of the raging hypocrites than they normally are.

Paywall link: https://www.star-telegram.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/mac-engel/article313268443.html

Full article link: https://www.newsbreak.com/fort-wort...s-pulled-a-sonny-dykes-with-one-big-exception

 

[Rex Kramer]

I’ll never cease to be amazed at this guy still has a job as a sportswriter.

Edit: Said that based on the headline. Reading the article, he’s not wrong.

 

[ShreveFrog]

Ridiculous to draw any parallels with Dykes to the Kiffin sitch. Muck gonna muck.

 

[TopFrog]

The system is broken.

 

[FrogBall09]

its not that hard honestly - but would need to get out of this "the old system was not fair to players at all" mentality that has resulted in the current over-indexing, no rules approach.

Move the portal to after the year is totally over for everyone. Let every player have 1 transfer without penalty - if you can't get it right twice, you are not going to get it right the 3rd, 4th or 5th time. Don't let schools talk to coaches until their schools season is totally over also - and be willing to enforce it with making schools forfeit future wins if found to be tampering and coaches being suspended the next season if participating in discussions outside the window.

coaches and players have contracts now - they need to have rules around getting out of those contracts just like the "business" world does.

 

[BrewingFrog]

The system is broken.

I tend to believe that it was broken on purpose, and that money was the primary mover behind the destruction. Additionally, there have been incidents of "creative destruction" where the end result was better than the previous iteration, and this is not one of those incidents.

The quaint concepts of honesty, honor, trust, integrity, and loyalty are as dead as Caesar. None of those are operational concerns anymore, only "What can I get now?" Damn the future, and damn anybody who gets in the way of that short-term juice...

Didn't Kipling write a poem about this?

 

[TopFrog]

Legal challenges and court rulings have blown it up. It seems like the NCAA has lost the ability to put restrictions or guardrails up.

 

[Mean Purple]

Legal challenges and court rulings have blown it up. It seems like the NCAA has lost the ability to put restrictions or guardrails up.

meh, some of that was settling too early based on bad legal advice and pressure from networks.

 

[SwissArmyFrog]

Kiffin asked to coach the team in the playoffs, which is understandable. But the university said no. Article said Ol Miss "justifiably" said no, insinuating they feel Kiffin is some kind of traitor for leaving for another conference school. If true, they seem to care more about hurt feelings than the players and supporters of the team. Kiffin made a change for what he considered to be a great opportunity, just like people do every day.

 

[HornedFrogAz]

I tend to believe that it was broken on purpose, and that money was the primary mover behind the destruction. Additionally, there have been incidents of "creative destruction" where the end result was better than the previous iteration, and this is not one of those incidents.

The quaint concepts of honesty, honor, trust, integrity, and loyalty are as dead as Caesar. None of those are operational concerns anymore, only "What can I get now?" Damn the future, and damn anybody who gets in the way of that short-term juice...

Didn't Kipling write a poem about this?

The sorry state of college football (and much of the modern world, for some time) is easier to understand when a man accepts all the telltale signs that it's not bumbling mismanagement, but intentional sabotage.

Few remain, who "can meet with triumph & disaster.... and treat those two impostors just the same."

 

[HornyWartyToad]

Kiffin asked to coach the team in the playoffs, which is understandable. But the university said no. Article said Ol Miss "justifiably" said no, insinuating they feel Kiffin is some kind of traitor for leaving for another conference school. If true, they seem to care more about hurt feelings than the players and supporters of the team. Kiffin made a change for what he considered to be a great opportunity, just like people do every day.

Letting *that* guy run the Ol Miss program while actively recruiting players and coaches to come to LSU? Not a hard decision, at all.

 

[BrewingFrog]

Kiffin asked to coach the team in the playoffs, which is understandable. But the university said no. Article said Ol Miss "justifiably" said no, insinuating they feel Kiffin is some kind of traitor for leaving for another conference school. If true, they seem to care more about hurt feelings than the players and supporters of the team. Kiffin made a change for what he considered to be a great opportunity, just like people do every day.

Please.

Kiffin is an amoral scumbag, and abandoned his team along with most of his Staff. Evidently they were quite happy to be rid of him, too.

LSU ran off one sociopath, and has literally brought in someone who may well be worse. I'm sure his speeches to his players about trust, loyalty, and commitment, will be met with the ridicule they deserve.

 

[HornedFrogAz]

Please.

Kiffin is an amoral scumbag, and abandoned his team along with most of his Staff. Evidently they were quite happy to be rid of him, too.

LSU ran off one sociopath, and has literally brought in someone who may well be worse. I'm sure his speeches to his players about trust, loyalty, and commitment, will be met with the ridicule they deserve.

Kind of reminds me of a similar situation right round the turn of the millennium....

 

[Dutch]

It’s more like Scloss throwing the Aggies overboard for Texas.

 

[BrewingFrog]

Kind of reminds me of a similar situation right round the turn of the millennium....

I was among those standing in Ford Stadium chanting "Stay Fran, Stay!" Fat lot of good it did. But, we got Patterson out of it, so we came out winners in the end.

Bama and Aggie? Not so much, although Fran wound up with lots of spending money...

 

[HornedFrogAz]

I was among those standing in Ford Stadium chanting "Stay Fran, Stay!" Fat lot of good it did. But, we got Patterson out of it, so we came out winners in the end.

Yeah I don't think any of us could've predicted our DC becoming interim HC would go on to be our best coach since Dutch Meyer (and the only other one in the running for greatest ever). Certainly not something anyone should bank on happening.

 

[AroundWorldFrog]

Kiffin asked to coach the team in the playoffs, which is understandable. But the university said no. Article said Ol Miss "justifiably" said no, insinuating they feel Kiffin is some kind of traitor for leaving for another conference school. If true, they seem to care more about hurt feelings than the players and supporters of the team. Kiffin made a change for what he considered to be a great opportunity, just like people do every day.

This was more like you were in charge of a $200M project at your job that you were getting paid millions to do then bailing within a month of completing the project and trying to take all your co-workers with you. People put in notices and get immediately kicked off of job sites every day, particularly when trying to poach a bunch of employees.

 

[Mean Purple]

Yup. LSU is still what they consider their biggest rival.
Sure, they have the Egg Bowl Miss State thing, but they see LSU as the biggest rival. Heck, Ole Miss was who coined the whole “corn dog “ slam.

 

[NewFrogFan]

Legal challenges and court rulings have blown it up. It seems like the NCAA has lost the ability to put restrictions or guardrails up.

Do players still have to go to class? I don’t believe I have seen “grades” as a reason someone does not play since college free agency started!

 

[Wexahu]

Do players still have to go to class? I don’t believe I have seen “grades” as a reason someone does not play since college free agency started!

I haven’t either. Strange, isn’t it?

I think with all the online classes these days the school aspect of being a “student-athlete” for some of these kids is as big of a joke as you can imagine. Wouldn’t surprise me if some never set foot in a classroom.