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FWST: Fanbase may be unhappy, but TCU playing in Ireland is good for the university

TopFrog

TopFrog

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Commentary: Fanbase may be unhappy, but TCU playing in Ireland is good for the university​

Steven Johnson

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When TCU formally announced on Tuesday that its 2026 football season openeragainst North Carolina would be moved from Fort Worth to Ireland, it wasn’t met with the reaction you might think.

There was plenty of excitement, especially from the Horned Frogs players. But for many among the fanbase, the news was frustrating because TCU’s losing a marquee home game for a neutral site venue.

Read the rest at https://www.star-telegram.com/sports/college/big-12/texas-christian-university/article304779826.html

Also at https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ot...reland-is-good-for-the-university/ar-AA1DpeXp
 
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TopFrog

TopFrog

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You have to win games. Wins over "eyeballs". Removing your home field advantage does not help that endeavor. Just like LSU and Ohio State.

Have we ever played a game as the visitor and the home team gave up their game to move to a neutral site? Not that I recall. Seems to be it is always us giving up the home field.
 
TopFrog

TopFrog

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FroggleRock said:
Openly acknowledging how rare and advantageous having 8 home games is, and then voluntarily opting out of that for “viewership” is an insane thing to admit. You know what else would get us a lot of viewership? Making the playoffs.

Did TCU hire Nico Harrison’s PR team?
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Big Frog II

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There is no way to spin this to make the season ticket holders feel any better. Time and time again they have taken away marquee non-conference games from Amon Carter Stadium. When they look at season ticket sales and wonder why they are down, look no further than doing things like this. They make us pay for the SE Louisiana's of the world and ship off the good games. Not a very smart way to make loyal customers happy. They may make a little money on this deal but at what cost?
 
Frog-in-law1995

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TopFrog said:
You have to win games. Wins over "eyeballs". Removing your home field advantage does not help that endeavor. Just like LSU and Ohio State.

Have we ever played a game as the visitor and the home team gave up their game to move to a neutral site? Not that I recall. Seems to be it is always us giving up the home field.
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If we gave up home field for Ohio State and LSU, then so did they.
 
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FroggleRock

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Big Frog II said:
There is no way to spin this to make the season ticket holders feel any better. Time and time again they have taken away marquee non-conference games from Amon Carter Stadium. When they look at season ticket sales and wonder why they are down, look no further than doing things like this. They make us pay for the SE Louisiana's of the world and ship off the good games. Not a very smart way to make loyal customers happy. They may make a little money on this deal but at what cost?
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Yep, exactly this. Is it a cool opportunity? Absolutely. But why not do what KSU, ISU, FSU, and GT did and play this Ireland game as a conference game?
 
geezer

geezer

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Meanwhile in Stillwater...

Bill Haisten: Surprise report from OSU shows football tickets moving at a strong pace​


"...That’s why I contacted Reece during the weekend – to get a feel for the current pulse rate of a fan base that during the 2024 football season seemed to graduate from disappointed to angry.

Reece’s report was surprisingly positive, and I use the word “surprisingly” because circumstances were stacked against OSU having this kind of early success on football season-ticket sales.
Those circumstances:
  • After 18 consecutive winning seasons and bowl appearances, Mike Gundy’s 2024 Cowboys were 3-9 overall and 0-9 in the Big 12. The misery ended with a 52-0 loss at Colorado, extending the OSU program-record losing streak to nine games.
  • During the weekend of Dec. 6-7, university regents apparently discussed the possibility of a coaching change. Gundy ultimately would accept the terms of an adjusted contract and a pay cut. Gundy also replaced nearly all of the members of his coaching staff.
  • OSU doesn’t really know what it has at the quarterback position. TCU transfer Hauss Hejny seems the frontrunner.
  • Because of the university’s need for revenue to be distributed to athletes, athletic director Chad Weiberg announced that there would be a price increase on football season tickets. Across all levels of the stadium, the increase appears to be about 20%.
Because the 2023 home schedule included the final Bedlam game matching the Cowboys and Sooners as conference rivals, football season tickets sold at a big rate.

Before the start of the 2024 season, OSU sold every ticket for all six home games.

After the smashing success of the 2023 and 2024 sales campaigns, how would the OSU people respond after a losing season, after the head coach made disparaging remarks about fans in November, and after a price increase?

Interviewed before Saturday’s Orange-White spring game at Boone Pickens Stadium, Reece shared this: OSU is ahead of its football season-ticket sales pace of 2023.

“Coming off of a down season — we are very excited about that,” Reece said. “We had to raise ticket prices and we are still ahead of where we were at this time two years ago — when we were selling tickets for the final Bedlam game on our field. That’s unbelievable.”

OSU currently is behind its 2024 sales pace, but the ticket office, POSSE and marketing staff members still have more than four months to match that every-ticket-sold standard.

“My (team members) made a lot of calls to a lot of people, just making sure they were going to renew,” Reece stated. “I loved the responses: ‘You think one down season is going to keep me away from Cowboy football? I’m all in. We’re renewing.’ I got a lot of that.

“I think it’s because our fans understand the importance of buying football season tickets. That drives the whole train for Oklahoma State. If you love softball or baseball or soccer or wrestling, then get Cowboy football season tickets. Our fans understand that’s important to buy football tickets, more than at any other time in our history.”

tulsaworld.com

Bill Haisten: Surprise report from OSU shows football tickets moving at a strong pace

Football-ticket revenue, Larry Reece says, "drives the whole train for Oklahoma State."
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Mean Purple

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Big Frog II said:
There is no way to spin this to make the season ticket holders feel any better. Time and time again they have taken away marquee non-conference games from Amon Carter Stadium. When they look at season ticket sales and wonder why they are down, look no further than doing things like this. They make us pay for the SE Louisiana's of the world and ship off the good games. Not a very smart way to make loyal customers happy. They may make a little money on this deal but at what cost?
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They will lose money on this game. Just too many logistics and the constant upsetting of season tic holders. It adds up.
 
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Mean Purple

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FroggleRock said:
Openly acknowledging how rare and advantageous having 8 home games is, and then voluntarily opting out of that for “viewership” is an insane thing to admit. You know what else would get us a lot of viewership? Making the playoffs.

Did TCU hire Nico Harrison’s PR team?
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I think things like an Ireland trip affect logistics and body clock to the point that chances of making the playoffs for that season drop.
 
WhatTheFrog

WhatTheFrog

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Let the chips fall where they may. Maybe it's a mistake to move the game, maybe not. I dropped my tickets a couple of years ago.

I got a call from the ticket office yesterday as a former football season ticket holder asking if I wanted back in. I chuckled and told them I'll just stick with MBB tix. I wish I had added "Not when you ship the good non-con games overseas!"
 
HToady

HToady

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I find it interesting that every year during the Colonial broadcast, the announcers go on and on about how nice Fort Worth is and how beautiful the TCU campus is. But rather than showcase this with headliner home games we choose to play a game in a renovated soccer stadium In a foreign country where we’ll get neither a football recruit or a student. Perhaps our motivations for selling the school are misappropriated. Maybe it’s just the payoff of the day. We know how we love money!
 
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FroggleRock

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ShreveFrog said:
From the article Geezer posted:
TCU transfer Hauss Hejny seems the frontrunner (at QB.) o_O Nothing against Hauss but their returnees must be awful.
Also: Saturday’s Orange-White spring game at Boone Pickens Stadium . Someting else we missed out on at the Carter.
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First time I’ve seen Hauss listed as the front runner. If that’s the case, then yeah, their QB room must be atrocious. Unless they’re running the triple option…
 

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