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Could Josh Hoover’s legs be the key to TCU solving BYU’s elite defense?​

Steven Johnson

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The Cougars have one of the best defenses in the country, and the unit plays even better at home. BYU (8-1, 5-1 Big 12) ranks 16th in the nation in scoring defense (18.3 points per game), and at home the Cougars are allowing only 12 points per game.

This will easily be the best defense TCU (6-3, 3-3) has faced since its 27-24 defeat at Arizona State in September. What makes BYU’s defense so special?

“They’re a big, physical team. It’s typical BYU team,” TCU head coach Sonny Dykes said Tuesday. “They’re always built up front. That’s always been their history. Their two linebackers [Jack Kelly and Isaiah Glasker], I think are the two best linebackers on any team in the Big 12. Both of those guys are really good at what they do. They’re good blitzers, they’re long, athletic and can cover.”

Facing a BYU defense coming off a 29-7 loss at Texas Tech comes at a less than ideal time for the Horned Frogs, who have their own offensive kinks they need to work out.

Paywall link: https://www.star-telegram.com/sports/college/big-12/texas-christian-university/article312873353.html

Full article link: https://www.newsbreak.com/fort-wort...be-the-key-to-tcu-solving-byu-s-elite-defense
 
ShreveFrog

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I’ve said for a couple years I wish Hoov would tuck and run. But someone remind me of when Dykes or Briles had a qb who was a dual threat. Dykes lucked into Max. I guess Chandler was supposed to be. Maybe Jefferson at Arky for Briles but he wasn’t great. Point is it doesn’t seem like dual threat is a big priority for them. Dykes’ history of qb’s is in the mold of Goff and Buechele.
 
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TxFrog1999

TxFrog1999

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Yes, but also no.

Hoover can run, but has a history of not securing the football, and in the past year the staff drilled into him that he needs to look to push the ball downfield through the air instead of with his legs much to the detriment of many offensive drives. Now that the staff finally realizes we have to have a mobile QB to have success with Brile's idiotic playcalling Hoover is gunshy to pull the trigger, tuck and run. And given his tendency to force things when the offense is sputtering I worry that pressuring him to run more will lead to injury.
 
Froggy Style

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So, in game 9 and three losses in to year 4 of the Dykes era, we now think we need a mobile QB. Perhaps we're a bit late to the obvious conclusion...per usual.

Perhaps like last year figuring out that a running game may be important.
 
82 Frog Fever

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ShreveFrog said:
I’ve said for a couple years I wish Hoov would tuck and run. But someone remind me of when Dykes or Briles had a qb who was a dual threat. Dykes lucked into Max. I guess Chandler was supposed to be. Maybe Jefferson at Arky for Briles but he wasn’t great. Point is it doesn’t seem like dual threat is a big priority for them. Dykes’ history of qb’s is in the mold of Goff and Buechele.
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Briles’ offense was at its best in 2015 when his QB, Seth Russell, had an 8.2 yard avg per rush. On roll-outs, he was a threat to run, pitch, or throw.
Right now, TCU’s running game is very predictable because we don’t have a QB that can set up the run play via RPO.
…..and these delayed handoffs to our RBs are just terrible. Most seem to end up as a TFL.
But you’re right, he does seem very willing to settle for a pocket passer.
 
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82 Frog Fever said:
Briles’ offense was at its best in 2015 when his QB, Seth Russell, had an 8.2 yard avg per rush. On roll-outs, he was a threat to run, pitch, or throw.
Right now, TCU’s running game is very predictable because we don’t have a QB that can set up the run play via RPO.
…..and these delayed handoffs to our RBs are just terrible. Most seem to end up as a TFL.
But you’re right, he does seem very willing to settle for a pocket passer.
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He doesn't even need to be a runner, per se. He just needs to be aware of what is going on out there and take the easy yards when they are given. A timely QB run draw play every now and then would probably be wide open for 7-8 yards, at least.

That one play the other night when he escaped the pocket and had basically 25 yards of open field right ahead of him and the entire crowd is yelling for him to run, he STILL waited and waited for a receiver to get open. It's like, good god, what the heck, have a little awareness.
 
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Wexahu said:
He doesn't even need to be a runner, per se. He just needs to be aware of what is going on out there and take the easy yards when they are given. A timely QB run draw play every now and then would probably be wide open for 7-8 yards, at least.

That one play the other night when he escaped the pocket and had basically 25 yards of open field right ahead of him and the entire crowd is yelling for him to run, he STILL waited and waited for a receiver to get open. It's like, good god, what the heck, have a little awareness.
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think back a few weeks ago. he had more than 1st down yards open to his right, moves that way, then throws 25 yards down field into double coverage.
 
Chongo94

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Wexahu said:
For someone who claims I make this board almost intolerable for you, you sure go out of your way to follow me around a lot. It's getting weird to be honest.
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For someone that claims to hate college athletics these days you sure spend a whole hell of a lot of your time on a college athletics fan website making it intolerable.
 
BrewingFrog

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I was under the impression that Hoov was told not to run his first year, and also his second one. He took off a couple of times in the first game, and I thought, "Woo hoo! He's off the leash!"

Apparently not. If it is indeed the case that he has been chained to a post, it must have enraged him to hear Sonny whine that he ought to be running more.
 
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Putt4Purple

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TopFrog said:

Could Josh Hoover’s legs be the key to TCU solving BYU’s elite defense?​

Steven Johnson

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The Cougars have one of the best defenses in the country, and the unit plays even better at home. BYU (8-1, 5-1 Big 12) ranks 16th in the nation in scoring defense (18.3 points per game), and at home the Cougars are allowing only 12 points per game.

This will easily be the best defense TCU (6-3, 3-3) has faced since its 27-24 defeat at Arizona State in September. What makes BYU’s defense so special?

“They’re a big, physical team. It’s typical BYU team,” TCU head coach Sonny Dykes said Tuesday. “They’re always built up front. That’s always been their history. Their two linebackers [Jack Kelly and Isaiah Glasker], I think are the two best linebackers on any team in the Big 12. Both of those guys are really good at what they do. They’re good blitzers, they’re long, athletic and can cover.”

Facing a BYU defense coming off a 29-7 loss at Texas Tech comes at a less than ideal time for the Horned Frogs, who have their own offensive kinks they need to work out.

Paywall link: https://www.star-telegram.com/sports/college/big-12/texas-christian-university/article312873353.html

Full article link: https://www.newsbreak.com/fort-wort...be-the-key-to-tcu-solving-byu-s-elite-defense
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Duh!!! Been saying this for two years!
The light bulb just switched on with this writer!
Pretty boy Hoover won’t commit to running even IF Briles told him so. He’s got a strong arm. Big woop. Briles won’t tell him because he’s not smart enough! So frustrating!!
Go Frogs!
 

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