FWST: Big 12 wants 24-team playoff and will enforce NIL rules — if everyone else does

[TopFrog]

Big 12 wants 24-team playoff and will enforce NIL rules — if everyone else does​

Steven Johnson

The Big 12 fully supports a 24-team College Football Playoff and the College Sports Commission participant agreement, commissioner Brett Yormark announced Friday.

Both were major announcements that could impact the future of the sport, depending on decisions by the other Power Four conferences.

With the 24-team CFP, Yormark said it was unanimously supported by all the football coaches and that if the format was in place last year the Big 12 could’ve had multiple teams in the CFP instead of just Texas Tech. BYU narrowly missed the field despite going 11-2 in the regular season.

“We like 24,” Yormark said at the Big 12 meetings in Frisco. “If we had a 24-team format last year we would have had five schools in. I think that’s good for the Big 12.”

FWST link: https://www.star-telegram.com/sports/college/big-12/texas-christian-university/article315939902.html

Alternate link: https://sports.yahoo.com/articles/big-12-wants-24-team-211802953.html

 

[The Bad Guy]

Meh, it’ll still be about 6 teams with a logistic chance. No Cinderella team is going through some gauntlet in today’s world.

 

[An-Cap Frog]

Meh, it’ll still be about 6 teams with a logistic chance. No Cinderella team is going through some gauntlet in today’s world.

Yep. In a sport with so many players on the field at one time, it is difficult for one player to get "hot" and lead their team to a championship.

 

[ShadowFrog]

potential hurdles

Feel free to cuss/discuss

 

[SW toad]

potential hurdles

Feel free to cuss/discuss

I think this is a bad idea. I'm surprised the ACC/B12 gleefully signed on.

The majority of the season for most teams will be almost meaningless (prob no conf championship, bowl games further eroded).

The top teams, mostly bluebloods will probably rest players with 3-5 games to go.

Many of the playoff games will go to Netflix, Amazon and others.

What about the health and safety of the players?

Baseball guy-Big 10 Commissioner Tony Patitty need to go away.

 

[BrewingFrog]

12 is too many. 4 was probably best, but with ESPN in charge of picking the teams, it would be the same ones every time.

Health and safety of the players doesn't even enter into the calculus of ESPN. They would have tOSU playing Alabama every week all year if they could. Money is all that matters.

Signing on to a rules enforcement agreement when no one else does is just dumb. There's no shaming the amoral, and expecting the SEC to be guilted into an enforcement regime is laughable. They're sociopaths! Yormark is an imbecile, and he's parading around wearing it like a neon sign. If there's no force to compel the SEC or B1G to comply, they won't. It's just that simple.

 

[SW toad]

12 is too many. 4 was probably best, but with ESPN in charge of picking the teams, it would be the same ones every time.

Health and safety of the players doesn't even enter into the calculus of ESPN. They would have tOSU playing Alabama every week all year if they could. Money is all that matters.

Signing on to a rules enforcement agreement when no one else does is just dumb. There's no shaming the amoral, and expecting the SEC to be guilted into an enforcement regime is laughable. They're sociopaths! Yormark is an imbecile, and he's parading around wearing it like a neon sign. If there's no force to compel the SEC or B1G to comply, they won't. It's just that simple.

It may take 3-4 years of a 24 team playoff for ESPN, CSC, NCAA to realize the Stingley like spinal cord injuries, increase in concussions and massive leap in compound fractures to cause the public to say that is enough. I know health and safety does not enter the picture for Disney. Their main Sunday morning idiot recently cost them 15 million and they let him carry on.

 

[Horned Frog Country]

24 team playoff is too many. I think it makes making the regular season less meaningful. I suspect there will be more blowout games with more teams.

There will be no real enforcement of any rules in college athletics until the NCAA or future governing body has an antitrust exemption.

 

[TooColdU]

Went from 4 to 12.

Didn't even try 8

 

[froginmn]

It may take 3-4 years of a 24 team playoff for ESPN, CSC, NCAA to realize the Stingley like spinal cord injuries, increase in concussions and massive leap in compound fractures to cause the public to say that is enough. I know health and safety does not enter the picture for Disney. Their main Sunday morning idiot recently cost them 15 million and they let him carry on.

I do wonder if players will start to opt out. If the playoff is 4 games for any team and 5 for 9-24 (I think that is how it would play out), I'm not sure why someone would risk injury that many times.

 

[SW toad]

Went from 4 to 12.

Didn't even try 8

For years, I've thought 8 was the sweet spot. Arriving at 8 after years of injuries and essentially destroying college football tradition may be what it takes for the children of the corn ( Yormark Patitty and the rest of the brainchildren) to get it right.

8 as long as they don't allow the James Madisons & Tulanes get in over BYU, UT or Notre Dame.

 

[One Frog Nation]

For years, I've thought 8 was the sweet spot. Arriving at 8 after years of injuries and essentially destroying college football tradition may be what it takes for the children of the corn ( Yormark Patitty and the rest of the brainchildren) to get it right.

8 as long as they don't allow the James Madisons & Tulanes get in over BYU, UT or Notre Dame.

well, anybody over ND is fine with me. Or UT.

 

[The Bad Guy]

For years, I've thought 8 was the sweet spot. Arriving at 8 after years of injuries and essentially destroying college football tradition may be what it takes for the children of the corn ( Yormark Patitty and the rest of the brainchildren) to get it right.

8 as long as they don't allow the James Madisons & Tulanes get in over BYU, UT or Notre Dame.

Always thought 8 was the perfect number as well. Teams outside that (maybe 10) aren't winning the whole thing anyways.

 

[Wexahu]

24 team playoff is too many. I think it makes making the regular season less meaningful. I suspect there will be more blowout games with more teams.

There will be no real enforcement of any rules in college athletics until the NCAA or future governing body has an antitrust exemption.

Its entirely too many, and of course it would make the regular season less meaningful. It's what all sports are becoming though, regular seasons are just drawn out snoozefests and off the field/court news gets most of the headlines because results of actual games barely matter. The whole concept of "playoffs" is pretty stupid and simply a way for leagues to add more games to extract more of your money. The NHL and NBA play 82 freaking games, and for what? To eliminate half the teams? We're getting there in college sports.

I don't always agree with Greg Sankey but when he says football is not a tournament sport, I agree with him. I'm beyond the point of really caring though to be honest. The game has been so bastardized by the recent changes that I almost feel like a fool for paying much attention to it. I damn sure won't spend much if any money on it.

 

[tetonfrog]

It may take 3-4 years of a 24 team playoff for ESPN, CSC, NCAA to realize the Stingley like spinal cord injuries, increase in concussions and massive leap in compound fractures to cause the public to say that is enough. I know health and safety does not enter the picture for Disney. Their main Sunday morning idiot recently cost them 15 million and they let him carry on.

The 24-team playoff is being pushed by Fox, NBC, NetFlix and Prime. ESPN has zero interest in it. That is why the SEC is fighting it. ESPN already has a monopoly on the CFP and they do not want to share it or spend more money on weak first-round games.

Does anyone really think a first-round playoff game between Iowa and Boise State is going to draw major interest from the public and major advertisers?

 

[SW toad]

The 24-team playoff is being pushed by Fox, NBC, NetFlix and Prime. ESPN has zero interest in it. That is why the SEC is fighting it. ESPN already has a monopoly on the CFP and they do not want to share it or spend more money on weak first-round games.

Does anyone really think a first-round playoff game between Iowa and Boise State is going to draw major interest from the public and major advertisers?

I disagree that ESPN has no interest in it. You are correct that ESPN wants to play above the fray and fight off others like netflix ,amazon, CW, and the rest.

ESPN is 100% onboard with 24 team playoff. Why do i say this? Espn has been literally making money off the New Mexico Bowl, Bahamas Bowl , First responders bowl, and several other bowl games that have 13k to 22k attendance and they don't show the bleachers. If ESPN is not making bank, they are attempting to reorder society. They are Disney for God sakes.

ESPN does not care whether Iowa Boise st matchup or South Carolina- Baylor meeting has pizzazz. If they do not know how to extract a profit, they will make it up elsewhere.


Disney was born evil and do not forget it

 

[SW toad]

damewell, anybody over ND is fine with me. Or UT.n

I really dislike Notre Dame and UT for their sanctimonious behavior. Actually Notre Dame could not match up with TCU between 2000 to 2020. Or UTERUS. Both UT & Notre Dame deserved a spot in the CFP playoff over James Madison and Tulane.

Let's stop the participation trophy mentality society. Tulane & James Madison simply did not deserve playoff spots over Vanderbilt, UT, Notre Dame .

 

[BrewingFrog]

I disagree that ESPN has no interest in it. You are correct that ESPN wants to play above the fray and fight off others like netflix ,amazon, CW, and the rest.

ESPN is 100% onboard with 24 team playoff. Why do i say this? Espn has been literally making money off the New Mexico Bowl, Bahamas Bowl , First responders bowl, and several other bowl games that have 13k to 22k attendance and they don't show the bleachers. If ESPN is not making bank, they are attempting to reorder society. They are Disney for God sakes.

ESPN does not care whether Iowa Boise st matchup or South Carolina- Baylor meeting has pizzazz. If they do not know how to extract a profit, they will make it up elsewhere.


Disney was born evil and do not forget it

ESPN doesn't make a penny off Bowl attendance. That's just for the Bowl, who rapes the hell out of the Programs who accept the bids and get to pay for their allotments of tickets the Bowl dishes out. ESPN shows those Bowl games because total degenerates (like myself) will tune in to watch them. If they suddenly turn the AGFOR Rebuilt Alternator Bowl into a National Playoff Game (#12), their ratings might just go up a tiny notch!