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FWST: Automatic BCS bid could come in 2012 for TCU's conference

TopFrog

Lifelong Frog
http://www.star-telegram.com/2010/04/21/21...ld-come-in.html

[SIZE=14pt]Automatic BCS bid could come in 2012 for TCU's conference[/SIZE]

By STEFAN STEVENSON
sstevenson@star-telegram.com

It has taken a few blockbuster seasons by two of its member teams, but the Mountain West Conference may finally be getting some respect.

BCS executive director Bill Hancock said the MWC has performed so well the last two seasons that it could become the seventh conference to gain automatic bid status in two years. Currently six conferences -- the Atlantic Coast, Big East, Big Ten, Big 12, Pac-10 and Southeastern -- earn automatic BCS bids.

The Associated Press reported that Hancock told a gathering of conference commissioners and athletic directors in Scottsdale, Ariz., that they should be aware of the strides the MWC has made toward earning an automatic bid by 2012.

"The Mountain West knows the BCS formula and understands the criteria it must meet to obtain automatic qualification," MWC commissioner Craig Thompson said in a released statement. "We've had two strong seasons under the current four-year evaluation period, with three top 25 BCS teams, and know we must continue the high level of play over the next two years."

TCU and Utah have earned trips to BCS bowls the last two seasons, and the MWC had three top-20 teams last year: TCU (No. 6), BYU (12) and Utah (18).

Utah coach Kyle Whittingham, whose Utes finished No.2 in 2008 after a 13-0 season and win over Alabama in the Sugar Bowl, says the league must maintain its momentum.

"I think you have to keep proving it," Whittingham said. "This is a what-have-you-done lately business. Even though we've had success the last few years all you can be concerned about, really, is this year."

Head games?

Gary Patterson doesn't want to hear it.

During a conference call of MWC football coaches Wednesday, Utah's Kyle Whittingham proclaimed TCU the MWC's "team to beat."

"They're going to be good, I can guarantee you that," Whittingham said. "...They lose some outstanding guys on defense, but I know the majority of their players are coming back."

Patterson wanted none of it.

"He said that last year," Patterson said. "He needs a new line."

Gamesmanship by Whittingham? Perhaps, but TCU will likely be the media darling when the MWC preseason polls are released in late July. The Frogs will also likely be ranked in the top 10 nationally in preseason polls.

Smith has surgery

Gary Patterson said that freshman running back Dwight Smith had surgery Wednesday on a knee injured during the Horned Frogs' spring game April 10. Patterson has not disclosed the exact nature of the injury, but said Wednesday that "it was significant" but "he should be back sometime during two-a-days" in August.

"We'll see how [Smith] progresses," Patterson said. "It's one of those injuries where the harder you work the greater chance you have getting back early. So it's really up to him."

Unga in doubt

All-time leading BYU rusher Harvey Unga, who withdrew from the school last week after an unspecified honor code violation, hopes to be readmitted, coach Bronco Mendenhall said.

"The process is still ongoing and I don't really have a time frame on when a decision will be reached" Mendenhall said of Unga, who has rushed for 3,455 yards in three seasons.

Stefan Stevenson, 817-390-7760
 

desmith03

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QUOTE(TopFrog @ Apr 22 2010, 05:55 AM) [snapback]548443[/snapback]
BCS executive director Bill Hancock said the MWC has performed so well the last two seasons that it could become the seventh conference to gain automatic bid status in two years. Currently six conferences -- the Atlantic Coast, Big East, Big Ten, Big 12, Pac-10 and Southeastern -- earn automatic BCS bids.


:eek:hmy:

Then again... he says "could," doesn't he. Hancock also might know a lot more about the potential for major realignment, or at least he can read the writing on the wall. If any of that happens, MWC admission could be moot.
 

SnoSki

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The BCS guy's comments are nothing but smoke and mirrors. Try to make it look like they're throwing us peons a bone...when he knows the whole landscape is about to change and (potentially) lock a good portion of us out for a long, long time.
 

fdub

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QUOTE(TopFrog @ Apr 22 2010, 05:55 AM) [snapback]548443[/snapback]
"He said that last year," Patterson said. "He needs a new line."


I recommend: "TCU's living on borrowed time."
 

gdu

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QUOTE(SnoSkiDrew @ Apr 22 2010, 02:08 PM) [snapback]548511[/snapback]
The BCS guy's comments are nothing but smoke and mirrors. Try to make it look like they're throwing us peons a bone...when he knows the whole landscape is about to change and (potentially) lock a good portion of us out for a long, long time.

Maybe, but even more than that, it doesn't matter what they say until they make the forumal public. No reason not to. IMO they are just waiting to they can alter it enough to keep the MWC out before making it public.
 

gdu

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QUOTE(McFroggin @ Apr 22 2010, 02:32 PM) [snapback]548534[/snapback]
Utah needs to BUY some time to evolve or we are going to leave them in the dust...

Disagree. On paper next year, we should fall off a bit and they should improve with a junior QB.
 

TheSheik

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QUOTE(tcugdu @ Apr 22 2010, 09:37 AM) [snapback]548537[/snapback]
Disagree. On paper next year, we should fall off a bit and they should improve with a junior QB.



Damn, did he skip a grade?
 

Houston Frog

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QUOTE(TheSheik @ Apr 22 2010, 09:52 AM) [snapback]548543[/snapback]
Damn, did he skip a grade?


This is the whole "this year vs next year" thing. GDU is talking about the 2011 season, when Wynn will be a junior, and we'll have a new QB
 

West Coast Johnny

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QUOTE(McFroggin @ Apr 22 2010, 06:32 AM) [snapback]548534[/snapback]
Utah needs to BUY some time to evolve or we are going to leave them in the dust...


In the long term, Utah is at a competitive disadvantage when compared to BYU. The two colleges split the local in-state tallent and Utah isn't a rich recruiting ground to begin with. More and more of the better atheletes are coming out of the Provo valley high schools, which is BYU's back yard. BYU has a built in pipeline brining LDS atheletes from all over the country to Provo that Utah doesn't enjoy.

Utah is left to bring in kids from geographically distant places like California, Texas and Hawaii. They did OK with kids like VJ Fehoko from Hawaii & Terrell Reese from Texas last year. But they also lost quite a few kids that flipped their committ, including our own Matt Anderson. No other college sweats out LOI signing day like the Utes.

They've done great over the last decade or so, but its an uphill climb for them into the future.
 

TheSheik

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QUOTE(Houston Frog @ Apr 22 2010, 09:59 AM) [snapback]548548[/snapback]
This is the whole "this year vs next year" thing. GDU is talking about the 2011 season, when Wynn will be a junior, and we'll have a new QB



Ah, gotcha, well that makes a lot more sense cause the better on paper wasnt making sense to me either.
 

gdu

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QUOTE(West Coast Johnny @ Apr 22 2010, 02:59 PM) [snapback]548549[/snapback]
In the long term, Utah is at a competitive disadvantage when compared to BYU. The two colleges split the local in-state tallent and Utah isn't a rich recruiting ground to begin with. More and more of the better atheletes are coming out of the Provo valley high schools, which is BYU's back yard. BYU has a built in pipeline brining LDS atheletes from all over the country to Provo that Utah doesn't enjoy.

Utah is left to bring in kids from geographically distant places like California, Texas and Hawaii. They did OK with kids like VJ Fehoko from Hawaii & Terrell Reese from Texas last year. But they also lost quite a few kids that flipped their committ, including our own Matt Anderson. No other college sweats out LOI signing day like the Utes.

They've done great over the last decade or so, but its an uphill climb for them into the future.

Maybe, but Utah has had more success (2 BCS bowl wins) and recruits do notice that kind of stuff. Nothing at all wrong with getting athletes from CA and TX.
 

South Texas Frog

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QUOTE(tcugdu @ Apr 22 2010, 09:37 AM) [snapback]548537[/snapback]
Disagree. On paper next year, we should fall off a bit and they should improve with a junior QB.


I think TCU has reached a point in recruiting / consistent success over the past decade that we no longer have to worry about "down years". We will simply reload and continue to compete for a BCS / possible NCG bid each and every season.
 

gdu

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QUOTE(South Texas Frog @ Apr 22 2010, 03:35 PM) [snapback]548587[/snapback]
I think TCU has reached a point in recruiting / consistent success over the past decade that we no longer have to worry about "down years". We will simply reload and continue to compete for a BCS / possible NCG bid each and every season.

Nice thinking, but everyone has down years. Doesn't mean they don't have talent and are going to suck, but some years teams have better/older players. We will be losing alot on offense after this season. No one competes for a NCS title every season (USC, Texas, OU, tOSU, etc...)

Most would argue Texas and Florida are gonna have a down year this year (esp. young on offense) even with the highly ranked classes they had coming in. Same with USC last year.

I expect the same with us next year. Sure we are reloading, but we will be doing so with much younger and more inexperienced players. Not everyone is a Daryl Washington.
 

Houston Frog

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QUOTE(South Texas Frog @ Apr 22 2010, 10:35 AM) [snapback]548587[/snapback]
I think TCU has reached a point in recruiting / consistent success over the past decade that we no longer have to worry about "down years". We will simply reload and continue to compete for a BCS / possible NCG bid each and every season.

I agree with that, except for years where we're breaking in a new QB.

Granted, Pachall is supposed to be special, he'll have a couple years of practice under his belt, and a stable of stud RB's to rely on, but there will come a point (or 2) in the season where he has to put the team on his shoulders and win us a game... question is whether the first year starter can get it done.

Very rarely do first year starters get it done.

And also, this begins to ask the question, what do we refer to as a "down year"? If we go 12-0 again this year, do we consider 10-2 a down year in 2011? 9-3?
 

gdu

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QUOTE(South Texas Frog @ Apr 22 2010, 03:58 PM) [snapback]548611[/snapback]
Difference is we aren't playing in the Big 12 / SEC and therefore can't get away with a lot more.

True, but that doesn't change the fact that it could be a relatively "down" year.
 

South Texas Frog

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QUOTE(Houston Frog @ Apr 22 2010, 10:40 AM) [snapback]548593[/snapback]
And also, this begins to ask the question, what do we refer to as a "down year"? If we go 12-0 again this year, do we consider 10-2 a down year in 2011? 9-3?


9-3 would be a down year IMO. Heck, any year we don't win the MWC and play in a BCS game would be a down year considering the recruiting and success we've had in the past. I think (and hope) we've moved past the "2 good seasons and 1 mediocre one" cycle we seemed to be in up until 2007.
 

NativeFrog

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An automatic BCS bid for the MWC? If that happens, do we become BCS lovers? And if that indeed does happen, what in the world would we have to [Deleted] about on this board?
 
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