FWST: As practice nears, TCU football player tests positive for COVID-19

[Palliative Care]

Some viruses go away i.e. small pox. It depends on the virus' ability to mutate as much as anything else. This why we always have flu around as it continues to mutate as it circles the globe. So each new season we develop vaccines to try and make match the virus' mutation. Sometimes it works and sometimes it does not. In years when it does not we have higher infection rates and more deaths.
We do not know for sure how this virus will develop but it has mutated already so that is not good. On the other hand the vaccines we are developing are directed to parts of the virus that has not significantly changed yet.
Some viruses like Covid's cousin Sars for reasons not completely understood just went away.
Now when a vaccine comes out we will see what will happens.

 

[Moose Stuff]

I suppose a virologist could answer that best, but hopefully it becomes less serious as our immune system learns to deal with it.

My point being we have to come to terms with people continuing to get it and people potentially dying. We can't continue to freak out every time someone gets it. Like 18 Marlins people have it and everyone went crazy but do any of them even have symptoms? Are any of them truly sick? I have no idea but my suspicion is no on both. If the disease weakens and spread greatly slows and then a few students at some school get it next spring and one of them dies are we gonna panic or are we gonna just keep going on with life???

 

[Palliative Care]

Unfortunately the news sources love bad stories and is loathed to give up on its political views as well. So yes anything like this is exploited. However, here is what I believe is the true take homes. A. It is not about the number of positive tests, it is about the numbers of hospitalizations and ICU bed in use. This how we measure our success or failures for now. B. Fouchi is a jerk so quit listening to him. C. No matter what you politics make it about what is best for the population and should have nothing to do with a friggin election. D. The best two hopes to quell this are vaccines and monoclonial antibodies. So if you fallow those two developments you will be in the know as to how soon we can start to truly getting back to normal.

 

[LVH]

Where did I say anything close to that. All I asked was what you would do if youm were in my place. And you basically told me to F-off for trying to extend my life the only way I know how. Thanks, again, asshoe.

I wasnt trying to be mean, where I am getting, is that everyone should be responsible for themselves. What has angered me about the virus and the response to it over the last 5 months is the fact that people who are not at risk and are just trying to go about living their lives are being made the scapegoat for everything bad that happens. And that feeds the never ending fear that is dragging all of this out and making everyone's lives miserable.

I got yelled at at the park by a mas wearing couple when I was running because I was "breathing too hard". I was like, if you are that upset about me breathing too hard, why are you even here. It's clear you are living in fear of this virus, so if you are so afraid, why even risk going outside. Also, they were wearing masks, so if masks work, why do you give a crap that I am breathing too hard?

You are doing what you feel is necessary and I don't fault you for that. But many like you, I am not accusing you of this, but many like you are not satisfied with taking care of yourself, they have to go the extra step and shame anyone also not being extra careful. I already got the virus, what good is me being careful going to do?

 

[Palliative Care]

The virus no matter what else we can say about it, is very contagious. So yes even our best efforts to prevent getting it may fail and it is not your fault. I hope you are doing well.
I understand your frustration as I am close to your age and I might of had the virus early on. At the time I assumed it was the flu but now I read that it was here way before we knew.
What I learned was taking care of yourself is the most important thing you can do.

 

[Paint It Purple]

I suppose a virologist could answer that best, but hopefully it becomes less serious as our immune system learns to deal with it.

Isn’t the data trend already proving your hopefulness true?

 

[Bob Sugar]

Well maybe not zero. According to the article young people are making up a large portion of those testing positive.
https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea...ts-first-COVID-fatality-in-12-17-15449846.php

 

[ifrog]

Where did I say anything close to that. All I asked was what you would do if you were in my place. And you basically told me to F-off for trying to extend my life the only way I know how. Thanks, again, asshoe.

he is an ass just ignore him

 

[CountryFrog]

Perhaps if everyone had bitten the bullet for a month Or six weeks in early spring, we might not be worrying about football seasons being cancelled. Just a thought without any data, though.

I've seen this type of thing said a lot and its not necessarily wrong but it's 100% revisionist history. If we step into our time machines to the month of April all we heard everywhere was "flatten the curve" and that was everyone's mission. And guess what, not only did we flatten the curve but outside of New York City, a curve never even appeared.

Absolutely no-one was saying that we need to completely stop the spread of the disease. But now we have all of these Monday morning QB's telling us that we very clearly should've been taking all these extra measures back then that would've been far beyond the prescribed "flatten the curve" that was continually being trotted out.

 

[Frog Art]

And..? Zero remains zero.

A "positive" test does not mean "You will shortly die with blood squirting from your eyeballs." The vast majority of infections go unnoticed. But, the daily flood of panic porn has everyone believing that if they don't cower in their homes, they'll turn into brain eatin zombies...

Sorry but anything of quality you might have to say is quickly discounted when with a quick Google search I found an article about the first DEATH of someone under the age of 18 in California. Viruses evolve and more young people are testing positive. Just wanted you to have the facts as you post very frequently about how benign this virus is and might want to fact check yourself especially from reliable sources.

 

[BrewingFrog]

Sorry but anything of quality you might have to say is quickly discounted when with a quick Google search I found an article about the first DEATH of someone under the age of 18 in California. Viruses evolve and more young people are testing positive. Just wanted you to have the facts as you post very frequently about how benign this virus is and might want to fact check yourself especially from reliable sources.

Sorry, but I truly couldn't give a parboiled crap about your Google search. Or your precious sensitivities. Or your erroneous conclusions. Or your "reliable sources."

If 4 or 5 murdering crapsacks had not sent infected persons into nursing homes and assisted living facilities, then it is very likely that the number of dead would be less than half what it is. If States would quit lying about what constitutes a cause of death related to this virus (See: Florida) then the number of dead would collapse further still.

You go on getting your "facts" from crap slingers. Live in fear. Keep on wearing your useless face diaper. Don't forget your goggles! The All Knowing Dr. Fauci says so!

 

[ifrog]

Sorry, but I truly couldn't give a parboiled crap about your Google search. Or your precious sensitivities. Or your erroneous conclusions. Or your "reliable sources."

If 4 or 5 murdering crapsacks had not sent infected persons into nursing homes and assisted living facilities, then it is very likely that the number of dead would be less than half what it is. If States would quit lying about what constitutes a cause of death related to this virus (See: Florida) then the number of dead would collapse further still.

You go on getting your "facts" from crap slingers. Live in fear. Keep on wearing your useless face diaper. Don't forget your goggles! The All Knowing Dr. Fauci says so!

Q Anon alert

 

[06DallasFrog]

I've seen this type of thing said a lot and its not necessarily wrong but it's 100% revisionist history. If we step into our time machines to the month of April all we heard everywhere was "flatten the curve" and that was everyone's mission. And guess what, not only did we flatten the curve but outside of New York City, a curve never even appeared.

Absolutely no-one was saying that we need to completely stop the spread of the disease. But now we have all of these Monday morning QB's telling us that we very clearly should've been taking all these extra measures back then that would've been far beyond the prescribed "flatten the curve" that was continually being trotted out.

The curve did not flatten in most of Texas before we reopened. Even Trump said that states shouldn't reopen until they've seen two weeks of declining cases. We never got that far.

 

[Eight]

The curve did not flatten in most of Texas before we reopened. Even Trump said that states shouldn't reopen until they've seen two weeks of declining cases. We never got that far.

what curve? if you look at the numbers provided by the state health department between the first of april and the middle of may you had very little variance in cases.

when the state started to ramp up testing as well as changed the definition of what was considered a positive case we saw a significant increase in cases

 

[06DallasFrog]

what curve? if you look at the numbers provided by the state health department between the first of april and the middle of may you had very little variance in cases.

when the state started to ramp up testing as well as changed the definition of what was considered a positive case we saw a significant increase in cases

Your response ignores the fact that testing had not been "ramped up" when we re-opened and that the government suggested we meet certain criteria before doing so... which we did not.

Everyone is going to get it. There's no doubt about that. I'm tired of this BS. It's always been about keeping people alive if we can.

 

[Eight]

Your response ignores the fact that testing had not been "ramped up" when we re-opened and that the government suggested we meet certain criteria before doing so... which we did not.

Everyone is going to get it. There's no doubt about that. I'm tired of this BS. It's always been about keeping people alive if we can.

no, it doesn't ignore the ramping up because i mentioned the increased testing. we had no true idea what the case count then as we don't know now because we can't test 30M people in the state.

the case numbers are flawed for a number of reasons and i am trying to understand your comment about trying to keep people alive if we can.

if you can accept the fact it is going to spread then you have to recognize the fact that regardless of what is done there are going to be people who die from it.

simple math.

 

[06DallasFrog]

no, it doesn't ignore the ramping up because i mentioned the increased testing. we had no true idea what the case count then as we don't know now because we can't test 30M people in the state.

the case numbers are flawed for a number of reasons and i am trying to understand your comment about trying to keep people alive if we can.

if you can accept the fact it is going to spread then you have to recognize the fact that regardless of what is done there are going to be people who die from it.

simple math.

All fair responses.

I stick to the fact that Texas "reopened" against previously given guidance from the national government, including Trump. Before testing ramped up, Texas had not shown a two week decline in cases, which was recommended. Curve or not, we never slowed the spread, so of course it increased when we opened. Yes, additional testing plays into that.

 

[Eight]

All fair responses.

I stick to the fact that Texas "reopened" against previously given guidance from the national government, including Trump. Before testing ramped up, Texas had not shown a two week decline in cases, which was recommended. Curve or not, we never slowed the spread, so of course it increased when we opened. Yes, additional testing plays into that.

until we can turn test results around faster the data collected is basically worthless

the hospital my wife works at gets the results in 3-6 hours depending upon the test and the que.
last i heard houston is 7-10 days yet they continue to use the same sources for testing.