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Ron Swanson

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A. Skoug making that throwing error didn't hurt us at all. Throwing that ball was a huge reward/zero risk proposition. Those runners didn't matter if they scored, it was only the guys coming up that mattered. CCSU was down by a ton of runs at the time, they needed new base runners to win the game. If the guys on 2nd and 3rd score, it doesn't matter, but if he gets him out at 3rd, it's a HUGE out. Smart move by Skoug trying to get a free out.

B. We wouldn't have brought Eissler in (or left him in for as long) if it was a close game. Schloss was trying to end the game without going into our 'important' bullpen rotation in order to save those arms for the rest of the Regional. It was worth the risk, because who the hell could ever imagine all that would happen in the 9th (cue posters saying everyone could see it coming because our bullpen sucks).
 
Ron Swanson

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PO Frog said:
Landestoy's play wasn't that bad. The ball was in the void and he made a decent decision to field and go for the tag against a fast runner. If he lets it roll and it stays fair everyone here would be calling him an idiot. The play was very close so it's hard to say it was an awful decision. Fast runner made a good play getting around the tag.
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Agree
 
Pharm Frog

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Ron Swanson said:
A. Skoug making that throwing error didn't hurt us at all. Throwing that ball was a huge reward/zero risk proposition. Those runners didn't matter if they scored, it was only the guys coming up that mattered. CCSU was down by a ton of runs at the time, they needed new base runners to win the game. If the guys on 2nd and 3rd score, it doesn't matter, but if he gets him out at 3rd, it's a HUGE out. Smart move by Skoug trying to get a free out.
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Actually helped us. Turned at least one run unearned that could have scored as earned. Cleared the bases so that the catcher's interference wasn't a run scoring mistake. And, helped put DF in a position to earn another save. Strategic.
 
purpleBOBfrogs

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For people who made it to the games yesterday, were people allowed to continue tailgating during the DBU/Virginia game if they didn't have tickets? Instead of being forced to stop during games like the regular season?
 
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HornedFrog4Life

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Ron Swanson said:
A. Skoug making that throwing error didn't hurt us at all. Throwing that ball was a huge reward/zero risk proposition. Those runners didn't matter if they scored, it was only the guys coming up that mattered. CCSU was down by a ton of runs at the time, they needed new base runners to win the game. If the guys on 2nd and 3rd score, it doesn't matter, but if he gets him out at 3rd, it's a HUGE out. Smart move by Skoug trying to get a free out.

B. We wouldn't have brought Eissler in (or left him in for as long) if it was a close game. Schloss was trying to end the game without going into our 'important' bullpen rotation in order to save those arms for the rest of the Regional. It was worth the risk, because who the hell could ever imagine all that would happen in the 9th (cue posters saying everyone could see it coming because our bullpen sucks).
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I love Skoug's heart and effort every night at the park and had no issue with trying what he did, but that was not the time to make that throw from his knees on a play where the team is in relaxed mode since there was a walk. Maybe good thought, poor execution. If we had a full meltdown, the view on this would have been different. My son had commented about Skoug being too close earlier in the game and he then had the catcher's interference.

Agree with you on why Eissler was in but those hits were legitimate and not just bloopers (except for the roller down the line). The problem for Eissler was that he did not appear to have command of his fastball and could not throw it for strikes. Got to the point that nearly every pitch was his curve ball. Need to be able to mix it up.

How many times do we get to an 0-2 count and the leave a pitch over the plate
 
West Coast Johnny

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Ron Swanson said:
A. Skoug making that throwing error didn't hurt us at all. Throwing that ball was a huge reward/zero risk proposition. Those runners didn't matter if they scored, it was only the guys coming up that mattered.
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Wrong. You say those runners didn't matter so why risk a throw? You are winning 9 to 1 so why take risks that could backfire and give momentum and hope to a nearly defeated opponent? Should have just worried about the batters.
 
Ron Swanson

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West Coast Johnny said:
Wrong. You say those runners didn't matter so why risk a throw? You are winning 9 to 1 so why take risks that could backfire and give momentum and hope to a nearly defeated opponent? Should have just worried about the batters.
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Are you serious? The potential out matters big time, the runners scoring don't matter at all.

If he got the guy at 3rd, that was one less out that his struggling pitcher had to get on his own. If the guys at 2nd and 3rd score, it makes no difference in the potential win/loss scenario for the Frogs, it only affects the stat sheet.

If CCSU gets the hits/walks necessary to eventually tie the game, the runners who were already on base would score anyway.
 
Spike

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Pharm Frog said:
  • Runner in the dugout way less valuable than a runner on 2nd.
  • When the obvious strategy is to run up a starters' pitch count, one should not give up a free out without the benefit of a single pitch.
  • With a catcher like they had...why not just wait at second until you waltz into 3rd base by way of a stand-up steal? Probably score when the throw goes into the batting cages.
  • Would've been nice to force the pitcher to have to work out of the stretch with a runner at second base.
  • Would've been nice to force the catcher and pitcher to have to use different signs. I think we all saw how crossed up they became more than once in that game.
  • Would've been nice to not immediately hand them back the momentum we had just taken.
  • In no way did it take a perfect throw to get him. It took the infielder not falling down from complete surprise that a base runner in D1 baseball would attempt to execute a staple of a high school play (running when the throw from the outfield goes behind you). There's a reason you don't see it in college or beyond...players are just too good.
  • Several on here who thought he was safe were wrong. He was out and it wasn't that close.
  • Last year we would have probably done the same thing except with much better hitters coming up (namely a scalding hot Barz). The only thing that would've stopped JW specifically from doing the same thing the season prior to that was that he wasn't in college yet. It's what we do.
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Always easy to second guess. He saw that they missed the cutoff man and tried to capitalize. If it had worked it's genius. I'm ok with it.
 

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