Football Transfer Portal

[An-Cap Frog]

 

[Wexahu]

This has to stop. I don’t understand how it is so difficult to put in guardrails and rules for maxing out compensation in NIL. How can you max out the schools at $20.5M, but 3rd party payments are unlimited? It makes zero sense. What has largely ruined the MLB (especially with the Dodgers), is going to be the ruin of college football.

Do you know how how many people it would take to do a thorough review of every deal? It would be impossible to regulate properly.

 

[Shorty]

 

[TopFrog]

 

[Shorty]

 

[Frog-in-law1995]

In all fairness, if you want to talk facts, here's one:

A couple of pages ago you said:



The reality is that GP did that 3 times in 10 seasons in the Big 12 (also did it 8 times in 11 seasons pre Big 12, which is obviously different).

So far Sonny has done that once in eight P4/P5 seasons and once in seven seasons in G5.

I don't really have a dog in the fight but to pretend that their accomplishments are remotely similar isn't reasonable. GP outperformed plenty of schools with more talent. Can't say he could do it again but also can't say is impossible to imagine.

Patterson dropped off in his last four (I blame that largely on QB recruiting failures two cycles in a row) but his record clearly puts him in rarified air.

Trying not to take sides here as I’m a fan of both coaches (and a huge fan of GP), but SD has a fairly significantly better winning percentage as a Big 12 head coach than GP. .673 to .595. And even if you take away GPs last 4 seasons, his winning percentage in the big 12 was just .631.

 

[The Bad Guy]

Consequences for actions…

 

[Shorty]

This has to stop. I don’t understand how it is so difficult to put in guardrails and rules for maxing out compensation in NIL. How can you max out the schools at $20.5M, but 3rd party payments are unlimited? It makes zero sense. What has largely ruined the MLB (especially with the Dodgers), is going to be the ruin of college football.

Good news(?), some programs want the cap increased/gone.

 

[Palliative Care]

Good news(?), some programs want the cap increased/gone.

How stupid can you get.

 

[Shorty]

 

[froginmn]

Trying not to take sides here as I’m a fan of both coaches (and a huge fan of GP), but SD has a fairly significantly better winning percentage as a Big 12 head coach than GP. .673 to .595. And even if you take away GPs last 4 seasons, his winning percentage in the big 12 was just .631.

Yeah it's really difficult to fairly compare because of the trade of UT and OU for the teams recently added, the situation they each started in (our first years in the 12 versus NIL years, etc.).

I'm just saying that Patterson clearly had more "high" years. And frankly for me it's better to go 6-6 for a couple years and then 11-1 than going 8-4 three years in a row.

 

[Frog-in-law1995]

Yeah it's really difficult to fairly compare because of the trade of UT and OU for the teams recently added, the situation they each started in (our first years in the 12 versus NIL years, etc.).

I'm just saying that Patterson clearly had more "high" years. And frankly for me it's better to go 6-6 for a couple years and then 11-1 than going 8-4 three years in a row.

I agree that having an 11-win regular season (and the NY6 bowl game that comes with it) followed by a couple of .500 seasons is probably preferable to 3 above average seasons, but even so, GP only had one 11-win regular season in 10 years in the Big 12.

 

[Wexahu]

Yeah it's really difficult to fairly compare because of the trade of UT and OU for the teams recently added, the situation they each started in (our first years in the 12 versus NIL years, etc.).

I'm just saying that Patterson clearly had more "high" years. And frankly for me it's better to go 6-6 for a couple years and then 11-1 than going 8-4 three years in a row.

And it’s kind of disingenuous to throw the four seasons at Cal in there when comparing how many “10-win seasons” they’ve had in a P4/P5 league. I think they’ve had three such seasons at Cal in the last 50 years, and they’ve never had an 11-win season. It’s just a really hard place to build a winner, for obvious reasons. And beyond that it was a terrible fit for a guy from West Texas. It’s be like GP coaching at Stanford or Boston College.

Gary was obviously a great coach here for a good while but Sonny has done well, a lot better than he’s given credit for.

 

[froginmn]

And it’s kind of disingenuous to throw the four seasons at Cal in there when comparing how many “10-win seasons” they’ve had in a P4/P5 league. I think they’ve had three such seasons at Cal in the last 50 years, and they’ve never had an 11-win season. It’s just a really hard place to build a winner, for obvious reasons.

OK sure, but before Franchione (one year) and Patterson (eleven years) started cranking out 10 win seasons, TCU had none in the previous 60 years. Patterson moved the program back up to P4 and had 3 more 10 win seasons.

If you want to throw out Dykes' years at Cal, that leaves one 10 win season in four at the P4 level, and one in seven at the G5 level.

 

[froglash88]

Just BS officiating

 

[PurplFrawg]

It seems like Blinn College’s relationship with TAMU. Like a feeder school for students that aren’t ready

aka Blinn-dergarten.

 

[Dogfrog]

Trying not to take sides here as I’m a fan of both coaches (and a huge fan of GP), but SD has a fairly significantly better winning percentage as a Big 12 head coach than GP. .673 to .595. And even if you take away GPs last 4 seasons, his winning percentage in the big 12 was just .631.

That’s fair. GP became head coach of a program that had struggled mightily for about 38 years until Fran and GP’s defense did 1998. Sonny took over a program in 2022 and took them to the NC game his first year. So the cupboard was not bare. Gary proved himself over 21 years with six top 10 and six additional top 25 finishes. Pretty stout for TCU based on our long drought. Sonny has one top 25 in his career, #2 in 2022. Seems a good guy and also very professional. I like this years off season approach. Time will tell.

 

[SW toad]

The report for 9-2-25 College football season:

.3% earning more than 1 million
.6% earning 500k to 999k
9.1% earning 100k to 499k
7.4% earning 50k to 99k
16.1% earning 10k to 49k
66.5% earning less than 10k

These numbers are not expected to deviate for this current '26 cycle according to Lindy's, Heartland college sports and Deseret News.

It looks likes the sweet spot for GMs and staffs to maneuver during the Transfer Tampering portal is who to pay between 250k to 50k.

Can someone please explain to me why we have not heard a whisper about the TCU GM's wins/losses during the T Portal??? I've thoroughly checked out at least 17 other CFB boards and they mention their GM's accomplishments.

If you know the rough rough money amount available for the Horned Frogs, then i kind of understand.
Otherwise, TCU played the opposite role of Marshall Applewhite of Hale Bopp comet fame.

 

[Frog79]

Can someone please explain to me why we have not heard a whisper about the TCU GM's wins/losses during the T Portal??? I've thoroughly checked out at least 17 other CFB boards and they mention their GM's accomplishments.

I was wondering the same thing.

 

[Sweat Equity]

That’s fair. GP became head coach of a program that had struggled mightily for about 38 years until Fran and GP’s defense did 1998.

We gotta remember Bumpas in this exchange. He was a man behind the curtain for the defense until he retired in Feb. 2015.

From Wikipedia:

Bumpas coached in 19 bowl games at 7 different programs, with his teams amassing a record of 14-5 in those games:

Season	Team	Bowl	Opponent	Result	Score	Head coach
1977	Arkansas	Orange Bowl	Oklahoma	Win	31–6	Lou Holtz
1982	Kansas State	Independence Bowl	Wisconsin	Loss	14–3	Jim Dickey
1985	Tennessee	Sugar Bowl	Miami	Win	35–7	Johnny Majors
1986	Tennessee	Liberty Bowl	Minnesota	Win	21–14	Johnny Majors
1987	Tennessee	Peach Bowl	Indiana	Win	27–22	Johnny Majors
1989	Arkansas	Cotton Bowl	Tennessee	Loss	31-27	Ken Hatfield
1990	Notre Dame	Orange Bowl	Colorado	Loss	10-9	Lou Holtz
1991	Notre Dame	Sugar Bowl	Florida	Win	39-28	Lou Holtz
1991	Utah State	Las Vegas Bowl	Ball State	Win	42-33	Charlie Weatherbie
1996	Navy	Aloha Bowl	Ball State	Win	43-38	Charlie Weatherbie
2005	TCU	Houston Bowl	Iowa State	Win	27-24	Gary Patterson
2006	TCU	Poinsettia Bowl	Northern Illinois	Win	37-7	Gary Patterson
2007	TCU	Texas Bowl	Houston	Win	20-13	Gary Patterson
2008	TCU	Poinsettia Bowl	Broncos	Win	17-16	Gary Patterson
2009	TCU	Fiesta Bowl	Broncos	Loss	17-10	Gary Patterson
2010	TCU	Rose Bowl	Wisconsin	Win	21-19	Gary Patterson
2011	TCU	Poinsettia Bowl	Louisiana Tech	Win	31-24	Gary Patterson
2012	TCU	Buffalo Wild Wings Bowl	Michigan State	Loss	17-16	Gary Patterson
2014	TCU	Peach Bowl	Ole Miss	Win	42-3	Gary Patterson