Completely agree. Some people on here look for any reason to bring this team down. Yes I have been frustrated like everyone else but geeeesh can we not just take what is given and maybe just maybe be optimistic?
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That’s a pretty good comparison.
Heck, the team picked to finish last in the 16 team league, ASU, is probably going to win it. That would be unheard of in any other conference.
The Bad Guy
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To be fair, I enjoy it. Makes me look forward to every season. Let's be real, if TCU was in the B1G or SEC they might compete for a conference title once every 8-10 years. No reason to think we won't be in the fix of things next season for a Big 12 title with our recruitment and hopefully retained players.
Frogs1983
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Team could have quit after Houston loss, They didn't. Baylor loss was frustrating, but team has competed hard every week . l give Dykes credit for keeping the team motivated to play each week. I have been a critic of Dykes, so I admit he's done a good job since the Houston debacle, for the most part. It certainly hasn't been perfect, but Ill take 8-4 after last season, and hopefully springboard it into 2025 season for better things.
FrogBall09
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Why do people keep saying this? Who cares what the strength of schedule was projected to be - in the end it was the easiest schedule mathematically possible
Next year can not be easier unless we play less conference games…
And we did not over perform despite the easiest schedule possible….
FrogBall09
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And more likely if we had played them we would be 4-8…geez
Frogfam4
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Because at the beginning of the season, everybody said the frogs have no shot. Those teams turned out to not be very good, so looking at next year a lot of people say they have a tougher schedule. who knows and who cares. They played a few bad games this year but, they’ve been better last four or five games. Lets enjoy what they are doing. Great things are coming for them. Just because Athena successful one year, doesn’t mean they will be the next and vice versa
82 Frog Fever
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That’s silly.
The 6 teams leading the B12 have a combined record of 50-16 .757
Those same 6 teams ended up last year at 31-43 .418, and only 2 were even bowl eligible.
The B12 is not a conference with teams like Bama, LSU, Ga. that just reload.
With the portal in play, you have no idea who will improve and who will decline from year to year, especially without a deep dive into their depth chart.
What’s it like hoping we lose every week?
Limey Frog
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Yes and no. Game-to-game that's right. No one really in this conference is a surprise as such. But if by the same measure, of any team in the league played the top four teams in the league you would expect them to go 2-2 in those games. Thus, if they played the bottom four instead their schedule would be comparatively easier, even if the difference between 16th and 6th in any one game might be only marginal. Even marginal differences compound when you multiply them.
Limey Frog
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There's optimism and there's self-delusion. A lot of us thought we would have a really good team in 2023 and bought all of the good vibes coming out of fall camp. That was optimistic. It was also dumb, as it turned out.
This team has improved remarkably from 3-3. I thought we were heading to a 4-8 finish from there, now we're looking at 8-4 instead. That's been a pleasant surprise, is cause for optimism, and suggests that those like me who had completely lost faith in this staff may have sold our stock too soon. That said, the schedule has proved to be softer than anticipated and TCU football has come out of fall camp playing undisciplined losing football in September two straight years. Is there a binary choice between acknowledging only one of these, or can they both be true?
Right, I didn't say there was no difference, just that there wasn't much difference. It's just a totally different situation than the Big 10 school who doesn't get Ohio State, Penn State, and in most years, Michigan on their schedule. Or back a few years ago when whoever won the SEC East basically came down to who didn't draw Alabama and LSU in the crossover games.
The Big 12 isn't like that at all. You could line up the toughest schedule next to the easiest one and it wouldn't look THAT different. Every team is on fairly equal footing when it comes to resources/advantages, whatever you want to call it. The gap between Ohio State and ANY former Big 10 West school was miles wider than the gap between the "best" and "worst" BIg 12 program in that metric.
Traveling Frog
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Good pitch. They need to be spending everything to fix the running back room. Whether that is OL, RB, or the RB coach. You can’t win championships with the running production we had this year.
Limey Frog
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Yeah, that's certainly fair. Indiana's schedule and Oregon's are more different than ours and Utah's
There’s a certain RB from a team that just finished 0-9 in conference that needs to come home for his senior year.
