ESPN: Indiana's Cignetti backs Hoover after turnover dig by Dykes

[TopFrog]

ESPN: Indiana's Cignetti backs Hoover after turnover dig by Dykes

Adam Rittenberg

Indiana coach Curt Cignetti reiterated his support for transfer quarterback Josh Hoover while responding to recent comments from TCU coach Sonny Dykes about Hoover's high turnovers total.

Dykes, who had Hoover as TCU's starter for the past two and a half seasons, was speaking last week with Frogs Today about the emphasis on trimming turnovers under new offensive coordinator Gordon Sammis.

"Look, numbers are numbers and stats are stats," Dykes said. "I think Josh started 31 games here as a quarterback, and we turned the ball over 40 -- he turned the ball over 42 times in those 31 starts. And you look at Gordy was the offensive coordinator last year at Connecticut, and their quarterback turned it over twice."

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[TopFrog]

Do you know who is most aware of Josh Hoover's turnover issues?

Josh Hoover. He knows and I am sure feels a lot of pressure to not resurrect those concerns at IU.

My guess is he will be in a system that will be more controlled and he will not have those issues passing. He needs to learn better ball security when running to avoid his fumbling issues.

We will see. He will or he won't. Who cares (well Indiana better care).

 

[Paint It Purple]

I still contend that Dykes' comment was an indictment of the previous OC Briles than a dig at Hoover.

Evidence:"And you look at Gordy was the offensive coordinator last year at Connecticut, and their quarterback turned it over twice."

Cignetti knows this too. He's seen the film. Kind of a smug SOB if you ask me. Course, win a Natty and I guess you can do that.

 

[82 Frog Fever]

Do you know who is most aware of Josh Hoover's turnover issues?

Josh Hoover. He knows and I am sure feels a lot of pressure to not resurrect those concerns at IU.

My guess is he will be in a system that will be more controlled and he will not have those issues passing. He needs to learn better ball security when running to avoid his fumbling issues.

We will see. He will or he won't. Who cares (well Indiana better care).

Not sure what you mean by more controlled.
Mendoza is much more mobile than Hoover. In 2025, Mendoza threw 10% fewer passes, was sacked 40% more, and threw less than 1/2 the interceptions
that Hoover threw.

2025:
TCU Hoover 413 Attempts, 18 Sacks, 13 INTs
IU Mendoza 379 Attempts, 25 Sacks, 6 INTs

 

[Wexahu]

I still contend that Dykes' comment was an indictment of the previous OC Briles than a dig at Hoover.

Evidence:"And you look at Gordy was the offensive coordinator last year at Connecticut, and their quarterback turned it over twice."

Cignetti knows this too. He's seen the film. Kind of a smug SOB if you ask me. Course, win a Natty and I guess you can do that.

The time where his team gets its ass kicked and some of the luster comes off will come eventually, but for now he's earned the right to be a little cocky.

Hoover is a good player and will have a better team around him so I'm sure he will do very well, but he is no Mendoza. Not really even close. Mendoza was the best college QB I had seen since I don't remember when. Maybe ever.

 

[TopFrog]

Not sure what you mean by more controlled.
Mendoza is much more mobile than Hoover. In 2025, Mendoza threw 10% fewer passes, was sacked 40% more, and threw less than 1/2 the interceptions
that Hoover threw.

2025:
TCU Hoover 413 Attempts, 18 Sacks, 13 INTs
IU Mendoza 379 Attempts, 25 Sacks, 6 INTs

Yeah that is kinda the point. More (edited) passing opportunities for Hoover, which I contended at TCU in the offense Briles ran (with no effective run game) when you are throwing/attempting as many passes as Hoover did you are going to have turnovers.

He should have a more balanced offense at IU than what he had here.

Perhaps Hoover had fewer sacks and more INTS because he threw at times when he should have tucked it and tried to run or protect the ball.

 

[Froggy Style]

Yeah that is kinda the point. Less passing opportunities for Hoover, which I contended at TCU in the offense Briles ran (with no effective run game) when you are throwing/attempting as many passes as Hoover did you are going to have turnovers.

He should have a more balanced offense at IU than what he had here.

Perhaps Hoover had fewer sacks and more INTS because he threw at times when he should have tucked it and tried to run or protect the ball.

This. I watched a lot of Mendoza, and never saw him throw a sky ball off his back foot to the center of the field. In fact, just like the many fumbles recovered by TCU, there were a handful of sky balls that McCallister and Richardson recovered for Hoover. There is such thing as a fade route...just not to center field.

 

[TopFrog]

Darrell Royal said, when you throw the ball three things can happen and two of them are bad. Haha.

 

[BrewingFrog]

This whole kerfluffle is an illustration of Why I Hate The SportsMedia: It's a made-up "controversy" that keeps breathing because the SportsMedia does the daily resuscitation on it for no other purpose than to draw clicks.

As to the recently departed Whelp, I had the unfortunate fate to sit and watch 30 minutes of The SEC Network yesterday afternoon. I couldn't change the channel, alas. One of the things they were blathering about was the "great athletes in the SEC" and how the "QB at SC was really going to put some numbers in the New Offense put in by Kendal Briles!" SO, the pimpage has already begun on that front...

 

[Froggy Style]

Darrell Royal said, when you throw the ball three things can happen and two of them are bad. Haha.

He never watched Hoover. Sack, interception, fumble. Sorry Hoov.

 

[froginmn]

Darrell Royal said, when you throw the ball three things can happen and two of them are bad. Haha.

My dad quoted that very many times; he loved that.

 

[jack the frog]

This whole kerfluffle is an illustration of Why I Hate The SportsMedia: It's a made-up "controversy" that keeps breathing because the SportsMedia does the daily resuscitation on it for no other purpose than to draw clicks.

As to the recently departed Whelp, I had the unfortunate fate to sit and watch 30 minutes of The SEC Network yesterday afternoon. I couldn't change the channel, alas. One of the things they were blathering about was the "great athletes in the SEC" and how the "QB at SC was really going to put some numbers in the New Offense put in by Kendal Briles!" SO, the pimpage has already begun on that front...

When the Briles deal went down I visited the SC board. Plenty of talk regarding Briles and real “SEC talent.” It made me curious so I glanced at a few numbers. SC ranked roughly 21st in aggregate recruiting/transfer rankings over the last 5 years. We were 24th I believe. TCU has placed 60 players at the NFL level since 2000. SC with 61. SC fans make the aggys look sane with the SEC coattail business.

SC have had four 10 wins seasons in their 123 existence and one of those was in 1942. 10 bowl wins in 123 years. They‘ve never sniffed a National Championship.

 

[Paint It Purple]

This whole kerfluffle is an illustration of Why I Hate The SportsMedia: It's a made-up "controversy" that keeps breathing because the SportsMedia does the daily resuscitation on it for no other purpose than to draw clicks.

As to the recently departed Whelp, I had the unfortunate fate to sit and watch 30 minutes of The SEC Network yesterday afternoon. I couldn't change the channel, alas. One of the things they were blathering about was the "great athletes in the SEC" and how the "QB at SC was really going to put some numbers in the New Offense put in by Kendal Briles!" SO, the pimpage has already begun on that front...

Cignetti could of had Hoover and Briles in a package deal. WTH was he thinking?