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Dykes NIL donation

Goo

Goo

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I’m thinking about our O-Line. We averaged 0.5 yards per carry and Hoover was running for his life. Last year we took two FBS players that were a stretch and I wish we had paid up. IMO guys from Incarnate Word and Abilene Christian are project players and we should be getting established players.

Dykes makes $6 million a year. I believe this is Top 25 among coaches but we are not a Top 25 team past two years. I’m interested if head coaches donate to NIL?

I’ve donated to TCU NIL and I don’t make near $6 million a year. I think coaches should donate. It shows they genuinely care about programs and winning and not just lip service. Plus coaches get a personal (career and reputation/legacy) benefit from winning that fans do not.

If Dykes donated $2 million a year to Flying T NIL, I wonder if we could’ve gotten two P5 all conference OL instead of two guys from Incarnate/Abilene. Nothing against these specific guys but just generally getting recruits transfers from Alabama (Tommy Brockermeyer) , LSU (Jack Bech), Texas (Jared Wiley), OU (Chandler Morris) has better chance of success.

You see how I threw Chandler Morris in there after his success last night and past year.

Anyway, I don’t understand how head coaches make $5-$10 million a year and ask average Joes to donate when they are not donating. Maybe HC are big donors and I’ve missed it? Thx
 
McFroggin

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Our NIL is terrible. Unfortunately it doesn’t seem that we have the donors to compete anymore. What we are doing with what we have is as good as it gets.
 
Goo

Goo

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McFroggin said:
Our NIL is terrible. Unfortunately it doesn’t seem that we have the donors to compete anymore. What we are doing with what we have is as good as it gets.
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Yes, it’s starting to show. I’m glad we NIL and appreciate all volunteers running and generous donors, but we are behind and small school/alumni base. We need Bass Brothers/Moncrief type on board to compete. I realize not alum but great support

In recent memory.

Ochaun Mathes- was two time All B12 player, Nebraska outbid us and stole him

Zach Evans - our only recent 5-star recruit,?Ole Miss outbid us and stole him.

Both were sorta busts. Which shows we were getting the most out of them but still discouraging that every year our best players are poached because we can’t compete NIL money. Dry Hole Moncrief used to say “you can’t play poker with some fella that takes your two best cards every hand”
 
McFroggin

McFroggin

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Goo said:
Yes, it’s starting to show. I’m glad we NIL and appreciate all volunteers running and generous donors, but we are behind and small school/alumni base. We need Bass Brothers/Moncrief type on board to compete. I realize not alum but great support

In recent memory.

Ochaun Mathes- was two time All B12 player, Nebraska outbid us and stole him

Zach Evans - our only recent 5-star recruit,?Ole Miss outbid us and stole him.

Both were sorta busts. Which shows we were getting the most out of them but still discouraging that every year our best players are poached because we can’t compete NIL money. Dry Hole Moncrief used to say “you can’t play poker with some fella that takes your two best cards every hand”
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You can say Zach Evans was a bust from a 5 star perspective, but he easily would start for TCU currently. Even got drafted in the NFL. We need these “busts” right now.
 
Goo

Goo

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McFroggin said:
You can say Zach Evans was a bust from a 5 star perspective, but he easily would start for TCU currently. Even got drafted in the NFL. We need these “busts” right now.
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Exactly. My point is that every year our team is poached, losing 2-3 best players

Like you giving me your best card in poker every hand
 
Ranidaphobia

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There's all this deep money in Fort Worth and we can't get good solid NIL going? It's going to be a slap in the face Tech wins the conference and ends up in the SEC because we wanted to suck our thumbs being integral. And I'll never understand an institution with a tuition of 780 million dollars a year for 13K students not being able to contribute significantly
 
Goo

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Young and Horned said:
He isn’t going to do that. Why would a coach say I am going to give up 30% of my salary. That is in the fanbase to so.
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A coach would do that to show they’re passionate about winning, 100% invested, etc

Let’s Dykes donated $2 million a year and we had a top 5 OL, we’d all benefit from it. Just getting Howard Sampson and one other make a huge difference. We go to CFP instead of New Mexico bowl, which is $4 million higher payout. Plus he’s a winner now. I’m surprised ego alone doesn’t drive coaches to donate. If I was Dykes and it was down to $50k to get Sampson and I had $20 million in the bank, it’d be real tempting to step up and get the guy I want. I don’t know of any coach donating to NIL but maybe I’m too passionate. Heck, A&M gives Jimbo Fisher $8 million every year to not coach. He should give back a little. Seriously, I’m surprised coaches don’t pay into recruiting purse. I’m also surprised TCU and other schools don’t formally pay into NIL. TCU knows the value of a team going 10-1 vs 6-5. Its millions in ticket sales, donations, etc.
 
NewFrogFan

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McFroggin said:
Our NIL is terrible. Unfortunately it doesn’t seem that we have the donors to compete anymore. What we are doing with what we have is as good as it gets.
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Personally, I refuse to participate until players are held to some sort of standard. Too many smash and grab type deals all over the country. Sick of hearing BS line that if coaches can do “it”, so can players.
 
LVH

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Even if I was a billionaire I wouldn't donate a dime to any NIL fund

NIL is a major reason why I have basically stopped caring about college sports. If I want pro sports ill watch the NFL. NIL + nonsensical conferences + transfer portal makes it really hard to care anymore

SMU game is the only CFB game ive watched this year. Shame because I used to be a huge CFB and CBB fan. I'd sit at a sports book in Las Vegas from 7am to 11pm every Saturday. This past year I went to an NBA game during the first round of March Madness. Something I'd have never ever considered 10 years ago
 
Goo

Goo

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LVH said:
Even if I was a billionaire I wouldn't donate a dime to any NIL fund

NIL is a major reason why I have basically stopped caring about college sports. If I want pro sports ill watch the NFL. NIL + nonsensical conferences + transfer portal makes it really hard to care anymore

SMU game is the only CFB game ive watched this year. Shame because I used to be a huge CFB and CBB fan.
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Yes they’ve ruined college football
The underdog has little chance to compete when the bigger budget teams just steal their best players every year

I want a team that cares about its school and community, not just highest bidder

I hate the lack of loyalty all around. This even includes firing Gundy mid season after all he’s done.

I don’t think the money is going to a good cause, other than winning. It’s just spoiling 18 year olds that are already spoiled with tutors, massages, chefs, dieticians. The kids driving Lamborghinis at UT is disgusting and teaches a bad lesson about life.

The portal makes it impossible to know your team. For 20 years, I could rattle off our 2-deep and knew where they were from and how they played. Now 90% of college 2-deep is from portal and it’s impossible to know your team.

It’s frustrating that OhioSt, UT, Tech, etc can just throw money and buy a team.

If I was a billionaire, I’d think about how hard my ancestors and parents worked to earn money and what they would think of me paying teenagers to play a sport.

From the beginning, I thought college football would be ruined with the changes in past 5-10 years. I need a new hobby
 
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froginaustin

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tcudoc said:
So, the ask in the original post is to donate $2 million. He makes six. Probably takes home $3.5 million. So, the ask is to donate half of his salary to give to kids playing FB for him. I think that’s nuts to even ask that.
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There are so many problems with that “ask“ I’m kind of overwhelmed.
Coach subjected to kickback demands?
IRS skeptical about deductibility by the nominal donor from more than one angle?
Whatever (if anything) the regulators (if any) think of institutional funds going where those funds aren’t supposed to go— laundered through institutional employee compensation?
A problematic “ask” IMHO.
 
Goo

Goo

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tcudoc said:
So, the ask in the original post is to donate $2 million. He makes six. Probably takes home $3.5 million. So, the ask is to donate half of his salary to give to kids playing FB for him. I think that’s nuts to even ask that.
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Call it $20k you’re missing the point
It just fascinating no coaches fund their nil
 
NewFrogFan

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froginaustin said:
do you see any possible problems with a coach funding NIL (or any other) payments to the athletes the coach coaches?
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I think the days of the NCAA “finding” problems have not got here yet if blatant tampering with players during the entire year draws as much attention as an Antifa fire bombing.:oops:
 

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