Conference Championship Game

[Limey Frog]

BYU got dinged for losing but Bama could have put their cheer team on the field and lost by 100, they weren't ever going to move down. Why force the league's two best teams to play twice at this point? We went from a two-bid league to one for a single TV payout split sixteen ways.

We should go to ten conference games each and drop the CCG. TV inventory would increase overall. Non-conference you could play one bodybag game and have one home-and-home series going regularly with a decent G5 or middling power team. Screw the SEC invitational's "rules". The committee is going to do what it wants, which is protect the already protected.

 

[froginmn]

BYU got dinged for losing but Bama could have put their cheer team on the field and lost by 100, they weren't ever going to move down. Why force the league's two best teams to play twice at this point? We went from a two-bid league to one for a single TV payout split sixteen ways.

We should go to ten conference games each and drop the CCG. TV inventory would increase overall. Non-conference you could play one bodybag game and have one home-and-home series going regularly with a decent G5 or middling power team. Screw the SEC invitational's "rules". The committee is going to do what it wants, which is protect the already protected.

I'm a long time college football fan who is fed up with where things have gone. I want to stop watching entirely but need to get a fix.

I'm going to make myself feel better with a personal ban on watching any game with an SEC participant.

I'm so grateful that TCU was able to give me some great experiences before the whole thing turned into a beauty and spending contest.

 

[Limey Frog]

I'm a long time college football fan who is fed up with where things have gone. I want to stop watching entirely but need to get a fix.

I'm going to make myself feel better with a personal ban on watching any game with an SEC participant.

I'm so grateful that TCU was able to give me some great experiences before the whole thing turned into a beauty and spending contest.

Yeah, I basically already do that. I will watch an SEC team against another conference, in which case I always root for the other conference. And on the rare cases of watching SEC-on-SEC vulgarity I always root for the upset result that would hurt the league.

 

[BrewingFrog]

"The Committee" didn't do anything but sit around at a hotel, eat free food and drinks, and act as a tackling dummy for ESPN. Those people aren't making any decisions, the suits at ESPN/ABC/Disney are calling the shots, and the teams they selected are the ones they feel will give them the highest ratings and generate the most clicks so that the sweet, sweet advertising dollars keep rolling in.

There's no "fairness" or logic, and certainly no consistency to their pairings, save a maximum effort for money. They do not care about College Football, or anything else connected with the sport. They only care about wringing every last dollar out of fans and viewers, and if they kill the sport because of it, so what? That's 5 or 10 years down the line. They'll be out and loafing on a yacht by then...

 

[Wexahu]

"The Committee" didn't do anything but sit around at a hotel, eat free food and drinks, and act as a tackling dummy for ESPN. Those people aren't making any decisions, the suits at ESPN/ABC/Disney are calling the shots, and the teams they selected are the ones they feel will give them the highest ratings and generate the most clicks so that the sweet, sweet advertising dollars keep rolling in.

There's no "fairness" or logic, and certainly no consistency to their pairings, save a maximum effort for money. They do not care about College Football, or anything else connected with the sport. They only care about wringing every last dollar out of fans and viewers, and if they kill the sport because of it, so what? That's 5 or 10 years down the line. They'll be out and loafing on a yacht by then...

They screwed this one up, but I can't imagine leaving Notre Dame out of the playoffs was because they felt it would generate better TV ratings. That's a new twist.

 

[Wexahu]

I'm a long time college football fan who is fed up with where things have gone. I want to stop watching entirely but need to get a fix.

I'm going to make myself feel better with a personal ban on watching any game with an SEC participant.

I'm so grateful that TCU was able to give me some great experiences before the whole thing turned into a beauty and spending contest.

For people upset at ESPN or Fox, or college football, or whoever you want to be upset at, this is the proper response. And really the only one that will hurt and force some meaningful change in the right direction IMO.

Instead, when ESPN and YoutubeTV get into a contract dispute (surely over fees), we are on here giving directions on who to switch to so we can watch the games, exactly what ESPN wants. When ND says screw it, we're not playing in a Bowl game (which ESPN definitely does not want), they get ripped for being babies and quitters. You want ESPN to suffer, than you should want every team ranked #13-30 to decline their invites and leave ESPN holding the bag.

But generally, just stop watching it altogether and like you say, find another fix.

 

[Cougar/Frog]

"The Committee" didn't do anything but sit around at a hotel, eat free food and drinks, and act as a tackling dummy for ESPN. Those people aren't making any decisions, the suits at ESPN/ABC/Disney are calling the shots, and the teams they selected are the ones they feel will give them the highest ratings and generate the most clicks so that the sweet, sweet advertising dollars keep rolling in.

There's no "fairness" or logic, and certainly no consistency to their pairings, save a maximum effort for money. They do not care about College Football, or anything else connected with the sport. They only care about wringing every last dollar out of fans and viewers, and if they kill the sport because of it, so what? That's 5 or 10 years down the line. They'll be out and loafing on a yacht by then...

This. The Committee just tries to justify the choices of ESPN. Until ESPN losses exclusive rights to the CFP, this crap will continue.

 

[Limey Frog]

"The Committee" didn't do anything but sit around at a hotel, eat free food and drinks, and act as a tackling dummy for ESPN. Those people aren't making any decisions, the suits at ESPN/ABC/Disney are calling the shots, and the teams they selected are the ones they feel will give them the highest ratings and generate the most clicks so that the sweet, sweet advertising dollars keep rolling in.

There's no "fairness" or logic, and certainly no consistency to their pairings, save a maximum effort for money. They do not care about College Football, or anything else connected with the sport. They only care about wringing every last dollar out of fans and viewers, and if they kill the sport because of it, so what? That's 5 or 10 years down the line. They'll be out and loafing on a yacht by then...

Yeah, I know Yormark has resisted the auto-bid proposal of four, four, two, and two for the Big Ten, SEC, Big XXII, and ACC that the Big Ten favors because it will put on paper that our league is second class. But we've already put that on paper in accepting half the payout the SEC and Big Ten get. Now the 16-member SEC gets five teams in after playing eight games and we get one after playing nine. We're not even second-class citizens in this structure. We should probably support the 4-4-2-2-1-ND model.

 

[cctcu]

College football needs a czar running it, and maybe an unbiased committee, maybe some congressional guidelines. How you get there - who knows. Right now the almighty dollar will always win out.

 

[tetonfrog]

College football needs a czar running it, and maybe an unbiased committee, maybe some congressional guidelines. How you get there - who knows. Right now the almighty dollar will always win out.

I bet the new Czar of college football would have a shorter life than Tsar Nicholas.......he would be shot by some "jilted" fan.......

 

[Mean Purple]

College football needs a czar running it, and maybe an unbiased committee, maybe some congressional guidelines. How you get there - who knows. Right now the almighty dollar will always win out.

we can start by not having the CFP announcements, etc be a ESPN rights deal. CBS needs to get back into carrying some of those big post season games, etc.

 

[BrewingFrog]

Yeah, I know Yormark has resisted the auto-bid proposal of four, four, two, and two for the Big Ten, SEC, Big XXII, and ACC that the Big Ten favors because it will put on paper that our league is second class. But we've already put that on paper in accepting half the payout the SEC and Big Ten get. Now the 16-member SEC gets five teams in after playing eight games and we get one after playing nine. We're not even second-class citizens in this structure. We should probably support the 4-4-2-2-1-ND model.

My respect for Yormark is plummeting, based on the dopey decisions he has made, and the resistance to change things to benefit his Conference.

For starters, he needs to set a Conference model exactly like the SEC: two Divisions, playing 7 Conference games, with a CCG. This will provide gaudy records for Media twits to gabble about, and drive pressure for greater inclusion. There won't be any changes to the "Playoff" until ESPN/ABC/Disney's grubby mitts are pried off, so making agreements to a diminution of status are worse than counterproductive, given the history of ESPN/ABC/Disney in honoring contracts and Conference integrity...

 

[Wexahu]

My respect for Yormark is plummeting, based on the dopey decisions he has made, and the resistance to change things to benefit his Conference.

For starters, he needs to set a Conference model exactly like the SEC: two Divisions, playing 7 Conference games, with a CCG. This will provide gaudy records for Media twits to gabble about, and drive pressure for greater inclusion. There won't be any changes to the "Playoff" until ESPN/ABC/Disney's grubby mitts are pried off, so making agreements to a diminution of status are worse than counterproductive, given the history of ESPN/ABC/Disney in honoring contracts and Conference integrity...

The SEC plays 8 conference games now, and is going to 9. Where do you come up with 7?

 

[Frozen Frog]

The only team I could justify replacing BYU with is Oklahoma. It’s 2 loss Okie vs. 1 loss BYU. BYU knew they had to win that game, and they didn’t. Conference championship games should allow you to play-in and not out of the playoff.

The moment you end the conference championship games is the moment you accept the split championships again. Might as well go back to the 50s when anyone can claim a national championship. The committee wants to see them ala 2014. The media partners and conferences want the revenues for the games.

 

[froglash88]

This pisses me off:
So exclude teams from the chance at a National Championship before the season starts? Complete BS. I hope Tulane and JMU both win games in the CFP. If they do, Finebaum will still make excuses. What a complete tool.


"They do not belong," Finebaum said. "And I’ll save you all the ‘due respect’ nonsensical preamble that we always use. There’s no reason to have schools like that in a playoff when you’re leaving home Notre Dame, BYU and Texas, and Vanderbilt.

Tulane, James Madison inclusion in CFP bracket compared to 'Make-A-Wish' — USA TODAY

ESPN's Paul Finebaum and Jordan Rodgers debated the CFP including Tulane and James Madison in the 12-team bracket on Monday, Dec. 8.

apple.news

 

[bmoney214]

College football needs a czar running it, and maybe an unbiased committee, maybe some congressional guidelines. How you get there - who knows. Right now the almighty dollar will always win out.

As long as espn is running the show, there will be no such thing as an unbiased committee. Gotta have controversy and chaos to generate the eyeballs and clicks.

 

[bmoney214]

This pisses me off:
So exclude teams from the chance at a National Championship before the season starts? Complete BS. I hope Tulane and JMU both win games in the CFP. If they do, Finebaum will still make excuses. What a complete tool.


"They do not belong," Finebaum said. "And I’ll save you all the ‘due respect’ nonsensical preamble that we always use. There’s no reason to have schools like that in a playoff when you’re leaving home Notre Dame, BYU and Texas, and Vanderbilt.

Tulane, James Madison inclusion in CFP bracket compared to 'Make-A-Wish' — USA TODAY

ESPN's Paul Finebaum and Jordan Rodgers debated the CFP including Tulane and James Madison in the 12-team bracket on Monday, Dec. 8.

apple.news

It's funny hearing Vanderbilt being included with the likes of Notre Dame and Texas, in football lol.

 

[HornyWartyToad]

BYU got dinged for losing but Bama could have put their cheer team on the field and lost by 100, they weren't ever going to move down. Why force the league's two best teams to play twice at this point? We went from a two-bid league to one for a single TV payout split sixteen ways.

We should go to ten conference games each and drop the CCG. TV inventory would increase overall. Non-conference you could play one bodybag game and have one home-and-home series going regularly with a decent G5 or middling power team. Screw the SEC invitational's "rules". The committee is going to do what it wants, which is protect the already protected.

Sounds entirely logical but as soon as you do that the goalposts will be moved again. . . As a lesser confidence the B12 will always apparently be chasing whatever the SEC does, and be begging for scraps in the bargain.

 

[Limey Frog]

This pisses me off:
So exclude teams from the chance at a National Championship before the season starts? Complete BS. I hope Tulane and JMU both win games in the CFP. If they do, Finebaum will still make excuses. What a complete tool.


"They do not belong," Finebaum said. "And I’ll save you all the ‘due respect’ nonsensical preamble that we always use. There’s no reason to have schools like that in a playoff when you’re leaving home Notre Dame, BYU and Texas, and Vanderbilt.

Tulane, James Madison inclusion in CFP bracket compared to 'Make-A-Wish' — USA TODAY

ESPN's Paul Finebaum and Jordan Rodgers debated the CFP including Tulane and James Madison in the 12-team bracket on Monday, Dec. 8.

apple.news

You've got five members of a sixteen team division in a twelve-team field and there are still two additional members whining about being left out and their public shills complaining that basically anyone else is in. I'd be happy to see the rest of college football just boot the SEC out at this this point. Of course it won't happen for millions of rectangular green reasons.

 

[Frognosticator]

It's funny hearing Vanderbilt being included with the likes of Notre Dame and Texas, in football lol.

Not to mention “#1 ranked Indiana” with regard to football.