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Frog_Fan71

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http://www.baylorfans.com/forums/showthrea...0740&page=2

Why the hell would the MWC want Baylor??
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Face it boys, we are headed to CUSA...if we're lucky
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Why not pick the best of the MWC and WAC to join the remainder of the Big 12. We already have an automatic bid.
 

Delmonico

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QUOTE(gohornedfrogs @ May 4 2010, 11:01 AM) [snapback]555308[/snapback]
Anybody else find it ironic that David Sibley is getting back into politics?



And he's challenging the 'citiizenship' of his toughest opponent. :biggrin:
 
I'd like to hear more about the supposed "competitive advantage" in recruiting that TCU has had over Baylor over the last decade. Our only advantage is that we clearly have better recruiters, but I'd like to hear how not being in an AQ conference, being in 4 conferences (if you count the WAC16 and WAC8 as fundamentally different conferences) in the last 15 years, weak TV contracts on obscure channels, playing all of our road games outside our recruiting base ... I'd like a Baylor fan to explain to me how that gave us a competitive recruiting advantage over them ...
 

Frog_Fan71

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QUOTE(Duquesne Frog @ May 4 2010, 11:09 AM) [snapback]555313[/snapback]
I'd like to hear more about the supposed "competitive advantage" in recruiting that TCU has had over Baylor over the last decade. Our only advantage is that we clearly have better recruiters, but I'd like to hear how not being in an AQ conference, being in 4 conferences (if you count the WAC16 and WAC8 as fundamentally different conferences) in the last 15 years, weak TV contracts on obscure channels, playing all of our road games outside our recruiting base ... I'd like a Baylor fan to explain to me how that gave us a competitive recruiting advantage over them ...


We didn't suck. That's our recruiting advantage.
 

halfwaytoheaven

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QUOTE(Duquesne Frog @ May 4 2010, 11:09 AM) [snapback]555313[/snapback]
I'd like to hear more about the supposed "competitive advantage" in recruiting that TCU has had over Baylor over the last decade. Our only advantage is that we clearly have better recruiters, but I'd like to hear how not being in an AQ conference, being in 4 conferences (if you count the WAC16 and WAC8 as fundamentally different conferences) in the last 15 years, weak TV contracts on obscure channels, playing all of our road games outside our recruiting base ... I'd like a Baylor fan to explain to me how that gave us a competitive recruiting advantage over them ...


And we didn't exactly head into the WAC with "momentum."

But there was a substantial amount of reality going on in that thread. Most of them seem to realize that they are in serious trouble, and I liked that reconstituted Big 12 proposal. But whoever suggested the SEC or Pac-10 might be interested in Baylor - please. They are, at best, the fifth most tempting choice for conference expansion in Texas. They better hope the Big 12 stays around in some form, or they'll be headed to C-USA for sure. If the MWC wanted another Texas school, we'd have added SMU already.
 
QUOTE(RSF @ May 4 2010, 12:04 PM) [snapback]555310[/snapback]
And he's challenging the 'citiizenship' of his toughest opponent. :biggrin:

Who knew that Sibley was a "birther?"
 

West Coast Johnny

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QUOTE(Duquesne Frog @ May 4 2010, 09:09 AM) [snapback]555313[/snapback]
I'd like to hear more about the supposed "competitive advantage" in recruiting that TCU has had over Baylor over the last decade. Our only advantage is that we clearly have better recruiters, but I'd like to hear how not being in an AQ conference, being in 4 conferences (if you count the WAC16 and WAC8 as fundamentally different conferences) in the last 15 years, weak TV contracts on obscure channels, playing all of our road games outside our recruiting base ... I'd like a Baylor fan to explain to me how that gave us a competitive recruiting advantage over them ...


TCU's recruiting right now is better than Baylors, but they aren't that far behind. I don't know why Briles can't get a descent running back to stay with Baylor. The bigger issue is player development. We do it and Baylor doesn't.
 

PurplePutt

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Baylor will be the odd man out if all this realignment goes down.

The MWC will be one of the 5 remaining power conferences. Here is what will happen if the Big 10 rumors come true.

--Big 16: Add Nebraska, Mizzou, Pitt, Syracuse, ND. SEC reacts.

--SEC: Adds UT, Ags, OU, Okie State. ACC reacts.

--ACC: Adds WVU, UConn, Rutgers, SFU. Pac 10 reacts.

--Pac 12: Adds Utah and CU. Big 12 and Big East is dead, gone.

--MWC 16: Adds: ISU, Baylor, Tech, KU, KSU, UH, BSU. (one hell of a basketball league)

Louisville, Cincy, go back to Conf USA. WAC, MAC, and Conf USA continue to wallow in the crap that is left over.

I ain't worried. TCU will end up in a better MWC or an auto-bid conference at worst.
 

Delmonico

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Much more likely the SEC takes 2 from the east (where there are multiple choices) and two from the west, leaving the ACC to absorb the remainder of the Big East football schools. Another reason the Big 12 will probably survive.
 

macaroni

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QUOTE(Duquesne Frog @ May 4 2010, 10:09 AM) [snapback]555313[/snapback]
I'd like to hear more about the supposed "competitive advantage" in recruiting that TCU has had over Baylor over the last decade. Our only advantage is that we clearly have better recruiters, but I'd like to hear how not being in an AQ conference, being in 4 conferences (if you count the WAC16 and WAC8 as fundamentally different conferences) in the last 15 years, weak TV contracts on obscure channels, playing all of our road games outside our recruiting base ... I'd like a Baylor fan to explain to me how that gave us a competitive recruiting advantage over them ...


Have ya ever been to Waco? Plus, TCU chicks are hot.
 

PurplePutt

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QUOTE(RSF @ May 4 2010, 12:32 PM) [snapback]555353[/snapback]
Much more likely the SEC takes 2 from the east (where there are multiple choices) and two from the west, leaving the ACC to absorb the remainder of the Big East football schools. Another reason the Big 12 will probably survive.


Don't see OU being left behind if UT and Nebraska go. Don't see UT leaving without Ags. Sure they would leave but don't think the politics would allow them to without Ags. Same might be said for OU and OSU. OU/UT TV market is huge and much more so than adding Clemson/GT for SEC. You may be right but.........?
 

froginaustin

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QUOTE(RSF @ May 4 2010, 11:32 AM) [snapback]555353[/snapback]
Much more likely the SEC takes 2 from the east (where there are multiple choices) and two from the west, leaving the ACC to absorb the remainder of the Big East football schools. Another reason the Big 12 will probably survive.

I don't understand this line of reasoning (2 from the east).

Maybe my impression that the SEC probably has all the t.v. eyeballs they are going to get in Florida-Georgia-South Carolina is inaccurate. Or maybe North Carolina is willing to walk away from its basketball situation in the ACC. Or maybe VaTech or West Virginia can rely on northern Virginia and D.C. to avoid what appears to be continuing, chronic economic decline in the Appalachian regions that can't be good for their long term prospects.

Or maybe the UTx/aTm, OU/Okie Lite pairs are not available to the SEC. Unless that were the case, and if the SEC went to 16, I would think they would want the Texas/Oklahoma demographics and t.v. markets more than they would want additional access to markets they already have, or markets that may be heading toward third world economic circumstances.
 

PurplePutt

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QUOTE(froginaustin @ May 4 2010, 12:43 PM) [snapback]555361[/snapback]
I don't understand this line of reasoning (2 from the east).

Maybe my impression that the SEC probably has all the t.v. eyeballs they are going to get in Florida-Georgia-South Carolina is inaccurate. Or maybe North Carolina is willing to walk away from its basketball situation in the ACC. Or maybe VaTech or West Virginia can rely on northern Virginia and D.C. to avoid what appears to be continuing, chronic economic decline in the Appalachian regions that can't be good for their long term prospects.

Or maybe the UTx/aTm, OU/Okie Lite pairs are not available to the SEC. Unless that were the case, and if the SEC went to 16, I would think they would want the Texas/Oklahoma demographics and t.v. markets more than they would want additional access to markets they already have, or markets that may be heading toward third world economic circumstances.


Agreed!
 

Delmonico

Semi-Omnipotent Being
QUOTE(froginaustin @ May 4 2010, 12:43 PM) [snapback]555361[/snapback]
I don't understand this line of reasoning (2 from the east).



After UT and A&M, the only available teams in the west are OU and OSU. And there's a good half dozen schools in the east that could certainly make a stronger case than than Okie State, and possibly better than OU as well. OU, as big a name as it is, is still in Oklahoma and doesn't bring the regional cache that, say, a Nebraska has in the Plains States. None are perfect for one reason or another, but all have strong factors.

As an example (but not the only one), for the same reason that Texas and A&M allows for domination of the Lone Star State for the SEC, the additional of at least Florida State does the same in Florida. And Florida's much larger than Oklahoma. Florida is very much a dividied state, adding FSU (and/or Miami) locks it down. A somewhat less strong case could be made for UNC and UVA - certainly not large football schools, but they are untapped markets for the SEC - and markets that are larger than Oklahoma. That two are less likely for their historical ties (important for such old, traditional schools). But they'd have to listen, because money talks, and their moral standing took a hit when the ACC included BC and VaTech. A dark horse might actually be Louisville - like Kansas, thanks to basketball, but still a major dark horse. Just my observation.
 

gdu

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QUOTE(Duquesne Frog @ May 4 2010, 04:09 PM) [snapback]555313[/snapback]
I'd like to hear more about the supposed "competitive advantage" in recruiting that TCU has had over Baylor over the last decade. Our only advantage is that we clearly have better recruiters, but I'd like to hear how not being in an AQ conference, being in 4 conferences (if you count the WAC16 and WAC8 as fundamentally different conferences) in the last 15 years, weak TV contracts on obscure channels, playing all of our road games outside our recruiting base ... I'd like a Baylor fan to explain to me how that gave us a competitive recruiting advantage over them ...

TCU ain't in Waco anymore.
 

Mike Brooks

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QUOTE(tcugdu @ May 4 2010, 12:17 PM) [snapback]555371[/snapback]
<br />TCU ain't in Waco anymore.<br />


Makes you wonder if we set the fire on purpose just to give us an excuse to get the hell out. Greatest decision ever!
 

Big Frog II

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QUOTE(froglicious @ May 4 2010, 01:27 PM) [snapback]555395[/snapback]
Makes you wonder if we set the fire on purpose just to give us an excuse to get the hell out. Greatest decision ever!

Great line!
 

713frog

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QUOTE(FriskyFrog @ May 4 2010, 12:35 PM) [snapback]555356[/snapback]
Have ya ever been to Waco? Plus, TCU chicks are hot.



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