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An-Cap Frog

An-Cap Frog

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Bama lost to:
OU whose six wins were: Alabama, Maine, Auburn, Tulane, Houston, Temple
Vanderbilt whose six wins were: Auburn, Ball State, Kentucky, Alabama, Alcorn St, Virginia Tech
 
TxFrog1999

TxFrog1999

The Man Behind The Curtain
The whining from Bama fans online is reaching a point of ridiculousness and it appears some of the talking heads got their marching orders from the mothership and are starting to support softer OOC schedules for the SEC teams.

Honestly, it’s getting absurd that one conference gets a pass for playing three cupcakes in a season and will get another for going to four, all the while the pollsters and idiots on ESPN will tout the gauntlet of SEC conference play to prop up every win as a quality win and every loss as a quality loss. It’s now a circle jerk and Saban is its leader.
 
froginmn

froginmn

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TxFrog1999 said:
The whining from Bama fans online is reaching a point of ridiculous and it appears some of the talking heads got their marching orders from the mothership and are starting to support softer OOC schedules for the SEC teams.

Honestly, it’s getting absurd that one conference gets a pass for playing three cupcakes in a season and will get another for going to four, all the while the pollsters and idiots on ESPN will tout the gauntlet of SEC conference play to prop up every win as a quality win and every loss as a quality loss. It’s now a circle jerk and Saban is its leader.
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Shoot. I was planning to go to Tuscaloosa for UA-UM in 2033.

May get scrapped.
 
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Wexahu

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froginmn said:
Agree, but you have to admit it's pretty funny to hear Alabama's AD saying publicly that after playing an FCS, two G5, and one below mediocre P4 school, they should take the P4 team off of the schedule.
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I must have misunderstood it then. If that's what he meant, yeah, that's idiotic.

Not playing that 9th conference game very well could have cost them this year. And I realize that Tennessee or Georgia could have lost a 9th game if they had played one but it wasn't likely.

Not so sure with this new 12-team format and 16-team leagues (if maximizing the number of playoff spots is the goal), that playing 10 conference games might be the best way to go, for all leagues.
 
Limey Frog

Limey Frog

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I think the Big XII should break up into two eight-team divisions that have round-robin play plus a couple of cross-division games. Have two division champions, then declare whichever one has the best overall record the conference champion. If they're tied overall and played it's decided on the head-to-head result; if they didn't play, they're co-champs. Kill the pointless CCG. A lot of years you'll have a good shot at both of your top teams getting in.

Another idea that is probably unfeasible (because ADs would whine about it) but would be better, is to have four-team pods, play eight regular season conference games then have a ninth round of games based on standings: pod winners play another pod winner, second-place plays another second place, etc. Then the CCG is a 10th game between the two first placed teams that won their ninth game (i.e. conference semi-final). All of these games are played on the home field of whichever team has the best overall record (followed by the usual list of tiebreakers). Everyone gets four home and four away games guaranteed, then you can earn a fifth (and sixth) home game. The only downside is that you'd have only one week to plan the logistics for a game, which ADs would pretend is impossible even though the NFL does it every year in America's most popular and lucrative sports event.
 
An-Cap Frog

An-Cap Frog

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Wexahu said:
I must have misunderstood it then. If that's what he meant, yeah, that's idiotic.

Not playing that 9th conference game very well could have cost them this year. And I realize that Tennessee or Georgia could have lost a 9th game if they had played one but it wasn't likely.

Not so sure with this new 12-team format and 16-team leagues (if maximizing the number of playoff spots is the goal), that playing 10 conference games might be the best way to go, for all leagues.
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I know SOS models use non-linear equations and typically have a component that rewards aggressive scheduling, however I do want to see what happens to say Alabama's SOS if the SEC were to play 9 conference games which would more likely than not add 1/2 loss to each one of the their conference schedule opponents. Theoretically, they would have to remove a South Florida from their schedule to accommodate another SEC team, which would in my mind make their schedule harder, but then again with so few data points what does the 8 extra conference losses do for the SOS as a whole?
 
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Mean Purple

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TxFrog1999 said:
The whining from Bama fans online is reaching a point of ridiculousness and it appears some of the talking heads got their marching orders from the mothership and are starting to support softer OOC schedules for the SEC teams.

Honestly, it’s getting absurd that one conference gets a pass for playing three cupcakes in a season and will get another for going to four, all the while the pollsters and idiots on ESPN will tout the gauntlet of SEC conference play to prop up every win as a quality win and every loss as a quality loss. It’s now a circle jerk and Saban is its leader.
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up.
We have a team in the 4 slot. They have been one of the best teams in the country coming down the stretch.
We have a team that beat SMU and played the 4 slot very tight. We have a team that beat the 4 slot.
Teams sitting their with 9 and 8 wins. The upper 7 of our conference is very competitive.
So how is it they don't get ranked up? BYU has more to complain about than Bama does regarding the playoff. The SEC strength of schedule is not what they claim. Some overrated teams in that bunch.
 
bmoney214

bmoney214

OUCH!!!
Limey Frog said:
We want to save them the exhausting effort of coming up with so many different touchdown celebrations. Also it can be dangerous for the lower back to be forever bending down to pick up those fumbles.
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College Football GIF by SMU Football
 
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Wexahu

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Mean Purple said:
up.
We have a team in the 4 slot. They have been one of the best teams in the country coming down the stretch.
We have a team that beat SMU and played the 4 slot very tight. We have a team that beat the 4 slot.
Teams sitting their with 9 and 8 wins. The upper 7 of our conference is very competitive.
So how is it they don't get ranked up? BYU has more to complain about than Bama does regarding the playoff. The SEC strength of schedule is not what they claim. Some overrated teams in that bunch.
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It is somewhat dependent on the draws some teams get, but generally it is what they claim. And if they add a 9th game, the strength of schedules bragging rights would be even more obvious.

Take a look at the schedules of Oklahoma, Florida, and Kentucky and try to convince yourself that BYU, Iowa State, ASU, or Colorado could make it through those slates with 2 losses.
 
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Mean Purple

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Wexahu said:
It is somewhat dependent on the draws some teams get, but generally it is what they claim. And if they add a 9th game, the strength of schedules bragging rights would be even more obvious.

Take a look at the schedules of Oklahoma, Florida, and Kentucky and try to convince yourself that BYU, Iowa State, ASU, or Colorado could make it through those slates with 2 losses.
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They aint adding a 9th game. that fate was sealed by the selection committee. every P4 should go to 8 conf games. why take the risk?
 
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Wexahu

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Mean Purple said:
They aint adding a 9th game. that fate was sealed by the selection committee. every P4 should go to 8 conf games. why take the risk?
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What are you talking about? You mean sealed by the committee leaving Alabama out? Are you saying had the SEC played 9 games they would have only had 2 CFP teams? The Big 10 plays 9 conference games and they got four teams in. ????

You're not making much sense. Even when the committee ranks SEC teams as #13, #15 and #16 in a 12-team playoff they get accused of some sort of bias, LOL. I would think the fate of the 8-game schedule would have been much more sealed had Alabama made it, no?
 
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Mean Purple

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Wexahu said:
What are you talking about? You mean sealed by the committee leaving Alabama out? Are you saying had the SEC played 9 games they would have only had 2 CFP teams? The Big 10 plays 9 conference games and they got four teams in. ????

You're not making much sense. Even when the committee ranks SEC teams as #13, #15 and #16 in a 12-team playoff they get accused of some sort of bias, LOL. I would think the fate of the 8-game schedule would have been much more sealed had Alabama made it, no?
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Saying the sec biz types are already pointing out that it's not worth the risk. hell, the whole college football universe is. why take the risk of another loss when you can play a Mercer and claim how tough your conf is?
 
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Wexahu

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Mean Purple said:
Saying the sec biz types are already pointing out that it's not worth the risk. hell, the whole college football universe is. why take the risk of another loss when you can play a Mercer and claim how tough your conf is?
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Well, claiming how tough their conference is didn't seem to work this year with the committee.
 
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CardFrog

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No matter how this shook out there would have been complaints. I think the fact that playing in a conference championship game and losing (as long as you don't get blown out) will not count as a negative has a huge impact on the outcome as we have seen. Is Bama one of the 12 best in the country? Undoubtedly but the previous format didn't pick the 4 best either. There is a lot of behind the scenes [ Finebaum ] going on that we have no way of seeing. I believe based upon the current format SMU deserved to get in but that's just me. I have a much bigger issue with Boise getting a bye than Bama being left out.
 

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