As I was saying........
Bud Kennedy needs to explain himself.
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Paint It Purple
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If you really believe in your black helicopter head that an athletic trainer and a physician will risk the well being of a patient/student/athlete and their professional careers/reputations as the tip of your vast conspiracy, then there's nothing left anyone can do or say.
The Artist Formerly Known as PhormerPhrog
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Have some respect on Dr. Phill's birthday.
CryptoMiner
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Barry again:
THE STORY TCU DIDN’T WANT READ JUST GOT A LOT MORE SERIOUS
+Journalism, Football and the Curious Art of Shooting the Messenger+
FORT WORTH — A funny thing happened to the story that got the Fort Worth Star-Telegram thrown out of TCU’s athletic kingdom.
It just got worse. Much worse.
TCU Athletic Director Mike Buddie revoked the S-T's athletics credentials after objecting to its reporting about an Aug. 13 locker-room assault involving two football players.
The university said inaccurate information from an unnamed source had endangered a student-athlete and resulted in threats against him and his family. (The victim himself posted details on social media.)
Buddie, a fellow native Northern Ohioan, was certainly entitled to complain about reporting he believed was wrong.
But he and his first-string media handlers failed to provide factual counter-evidence, on or off the record. And what Buddie was not required to do was punish the newspaper by taking away its access.
And now we know considerably more about what happened inside that locker room — not from an anonymous source, not from somebody’s cousin on Facebook, but from an arrest-warrant affidavit filed by TCU police.
Wide receiver Dozie Ezukanma spent three days in the hospital with a brain bleed and concussion after teammate Jacob Fields allegedly punched him in the forehead, knocking him to the floor, and then kicked him in the head, according to an affidavit obtained by the Star-Telegram’s ace crime reporter Shambhavi Rimal.
A witness, teammate Terry Shelton, told police Ezukanma appeared to be unconscious before hitting the floor and that Fields then kicked him in the head “as hard as he could.”
Ezukanma told police he remembers sitting in the training room afterward asking people: “What just happened?”
According to the affidavit, Fields apparently believed Ezukanma had been outperforming him in practice.
Fields was dismissed from the team, arrested and charged with aggravated assault. A charge, of course, is an accusation, not a conviction, and Fields is entitled to the presumption of innocence.
But there is another issue here that ought to concern anyone who cares about TCU. The university tried to punish the newspaper covering this story. Think about that.
A football player allegedly suffers injuries serious enough to require three days in a hospital. TCU police investigate. An arrest warrant is obtained. A former player is charged with aggravated assault.
And somewhere along the way, the institution decided one of the pressing problems requiring administrative attention was: the newspaper.
TCU had every right to dispute the Star-Telegram’s initial reporting. It had every right to demand corrections if facts were wrong, release its own evidence, complain publicly, call the editor and raise holy hell. That is how grown-up institutions deal with journalism they dislike. They answer it. They don't confiscate the press pass.
The purpose of an independent watchdog newspaper is not to assist the athletic department in managing its image. It's to find out what happened — particularly when what happened involves an alleged violent assault inside a university facility.
The delicious irony is that the Star-Telegram that TCU attempted to keep at arm’s length is still reporting. And because of that, the public now knows that this wasn't merely some unfortunate bit of locker-room horseplay that got out of hand.
According to TCU's own police investigation, it was an alleged assault that left a young man unconscious, concussed, suffering from a brain bleed and hospitalized for three days.
Which brings us to an ancient lesson of journalism that TCU's communications department should have offered, if asked:
If you don't like the story on Monday, banning the reporters is a remarkably effective way of making sure everybody reads the follow-up on Tuesday.
SHARE IF YOU THINK TCU FOOTBALL SHOULD LEAVE THE PRESS-BANNING PLAYBOOK TO ACTUAL AUTHORITARIAN REGIMES — AND TRY ANSWERING UNCOMFORTABLE QUESTIONS INSTEAD.
#TCU #TCUFootball #GoFrogs #FortWorth #FortWorthNews #StarTelegram #PressFreedom #FirstAmendment #CollegeFootball #Big12Football #SonnyDykes #MikeBuddie
THE STORY TCU DIDN’T WANT READ JUST GOT A LOT MORE SERIOUS
+Journalism, Football and the Curious Art of Shooting the Messenger+
FORT WORTH — A funny thing happened to the story that got the Fort Worth Star-Telegram thrown out of TCU’s athletic kingdom.
It just got worse. Much worse.
TCU Athletic Director Mike Buddie revoked the S-T's athletics credentials after objecting to its reporting about an Aug. 13 locker-room assault involving two football players.
The university said inaccurate information from an unnamed source had endangered a student-athlete and resulted in threats against him and his family. (The victim himself posted details on social media.)
Buddie, a fellow native Northern Ohioan, was certainly entitled to complain about reporting he believed was wrong.
But he and his first-string media handlers failed to provide factual counter-evidence, on or off the record. And what Buddie was not required to do was punish the newspaper by taking away its access.
And now we know considerably more about what happened inside that locker room — not from an anonymous source, not from somebody’s cousin on Facebook, but from an arrest-warrant affidavit filed by TCU police.
Wide receiver Dozie Ezukanma spent three days in the hospital with a brain bleed and concussion after teammate Jacob Fields allegedly punched him in the forehead, knocking him to the floor, and then kicked him in the head, according to an affidavit obtained by the Star-Telegram’s ace crime reporter Shambhavi Rimal.
A witness, teammate Terry Shelton, told police Ezukanma appeared to be unconscious before hitting the floor and that Fields then kicked him in the head “as hard as he could.”
Ezukanma told police he remembers sitting in the training room afterward asking people: “What just happened?”
According to the affidavit, Fields apparently believed Ezukanma had been outperforming him in practice.
Fields was dismissed from the team, arrested and charged with aggravated assault. A charge, of course, is an accusation, not a conviction, and Fields is entitled to the presumption of innocence.
But there is another issue here that ought to concern anyone who cares about TCU. The university tried to punish the newspaper covering this story. Think about that.
A football player allegedly suffers injuries serious enough to require three days in a hospital. TCU police investigate. An arrest warrant is obtained. A former player is charged with aggravated assault.
And somewhere along the way, the institution decided one of the pressing problems requiring administrative attention was: the newspaper.
TCU had every right to dispute the Star-Telegram’s initial reporting. It had every right to demand corrections if facts were wrong, release its own evidence, complain publicly, call the editor and raise holy hell. That is how grown-up institutions deal with journalism they dislike. They answer it. They don't confiscate the press pass.
The purpose of an independent watchdog newspaper is not to assist the athletic department in managing its image. It's to find out what happened — particularly when what happened involves an alleged violent assault inside a university facility.
The delicious irony is that the Star-Telegram that TCU attempted to keep at arm’s length is still reporting. And because of that, the public now knows that this wasn't merely some unfortunate bit of locker-room horseplay that got out of hand.
According to TCU's own police investigation, it was an alleged assault that left a young man unconscious, concussed, suffering from a brain bleed and hospitalized for three days.
Which brings us to an ancient lesson of journalism that TCU's communications department should have offered, if asked:
If you don't like the story on Monday, banning the reporters is a remarkably effective way of making sure everybody reads the follow-up on Tuesday.
SHARE IF YOU THINK TCU FOOTBALL SHOULD LEAVE THE PRESS-BANNING PLAYBOOK TO ACTUAL AUTHORITARIAN REGIMES — AND TRY ANSWERING UNCOMFORTABLE QUESTIONS INSTEAD.
#TCU #TCUFootball #GoFrogs #FortWorth #FortWorthNews #StarTelegram #PressFreedom #FirstAmendment #CollegeFootball #Big12Football #SonnyDykes #MikeBuddie
Spike
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Howz that workin out for ya?
HornyWartyToad
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Thanks for mansplaining first aid, without touching the question I asked.
CryptoMiner
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TCU is going to be hit hard in the
public and in the courts on this. Source is the arrest records, etc.
CryptoMiner
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and succeeding.
froginmn
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The question is mostly irrelevant. The timing of a decision to send someone for a CT scan doesn't start at the time of the incident.
Bud's comment was that Dozie wasn't sent to the ER for nearly two hours. You're correct that he didn't say they waited two hours for medical attention but he also didn't say they waited at all. So the direct answer to your question is, he said neither.
But a dumb implication of his tweet is that anyone waited and that was improper. They didn't wait to send him; they evaluated him to see if it was necessary to send him. When they determined it was, they acted.
As for the mansplaining, it's apparently necessary because someone else in the thread thinks you automatically send someone to the ER without evaluation.
HeidelFrog
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You could not be more wrong.
Sangria Wine
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Does anybody believe that TCU’s legal team is happy with the way this was handled? Even if for no reason other than to cover your ass the standard protocol when an assault that leaves a player unconscious happens in a team location would be to call authorities and let them take over while providing triage care and protecting the crime scene in the time you wait for the 3rd party medical and law enforcement to show up. It’s literally the only track that keeps you clean as an entity. I can’t really believe anybody would argue that.
Showtime Joe 2.0
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This is nothing but gaslighting from a former Star-Telegram reporter.
TCU is a private institution. It's not a governmental "regime" of any sort. And the First Amendment only applies to governmental entities, not private ones.
Moreover, TCU's campus is private property. Legally speaking, besides students and employees, anyone who sets foot on that campus is there as a guest and may be ordered off the property at any time and for any reason.
So, this dispute between TCU and the Star-Telegram has absolutely nothing to do with "#Press Freedom" or the "#First Amendment."
Now, either Barry What's His Name knows all that and is purposely misleading his readers or else he's woefully ignorant of the law, constitutional and otherwise. Either way, it's not a "good look" for him.
Finally, I had to laugh when he described the Star-Telegram as an "independent watchdog newspaper." A watchdog? Nowadays, that rag reminds me more of a feral, rabid dog roaming through a homeless encampment looking for scraps to eat.
HeidelFrog
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The arrest warrant proves a serious assault happened. It does not prove the Star-Telegram’s original reporting was accurate. Those are two completely different things.
The original story said Fields was being targeted, insulted, threatened and spit on, that he repeatedly went to coaches, and TCU made “no attempts to de-escalate.”
So where is the evidence for that?
It’s not in the arrest affidavit. The victim says they had been going hard at each other in practice and believed Fields attacked him because he was playing better. Fields’ own text says he made an “emotional decision” because of how he felt he’d been played the last few practices. And your own later source authorized to speak for Fields and his family said he wasn’t being bullied or mistreated.
Instead of lecturing everyone with their BS “independent journalism,” line, they need to answer the question: Do you still stand behind the original reporting? If so, show what backs it up.
The burden isn’t on TCU to prove your unnamed source wrong. The burden was on the Star-Telegram to verify those claims before publishing them.
HeidelFrog
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The players did exactly what they are trained to do when a teammate is hurt. Get the athletic trainer, who was on site. The trainer evaluated him and got him to the team doctor, who was also on site. The doctor evaluated him and made the decision to send him to the ER. I don’t understand the argument that the “standard protocol” was to ignore the medical professionals already there and wait for a third party to “take over.”
I also don’t understand this “cover-up” angle some keep trying to push. A police report was made. The suspect was kicked off the team and ultimately arrested.
Their first priority was getting him immediate medical care. They did that. The secondary issue was getting law enforcement involved. They did that too.
You can debate whether every decision was perfect with the benefit of hindsight, but acting like nobody sought medical care, nobody contacted police, and TCU tried to sweep it under the rug simply doesn’t match the facts.
CryptoMiner
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Your argument is completely irrelevant unless you think hashtags mean anything other than quick linking...
Nowhere in his article does Barry mention TCU could not ban the ST, he does not mention the 1st amendment, etc.
The argument has never been that TCU could not ban the St, it has been TCU was idiotic to do so, and they were.
"Buddie, a fellow native Northern Ohioan, was certainly entitled to complain about reporting he believed was wrong.
But he and his first-string media handlers failed to provide factual counter-evidence, on or off the record. And what Buddie was not required to do was punish the newspaper by taking away its access."
"Was not required" is a lot different than not entitled.
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CryptoMiner
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Barry never defends the original story and says TCU should grow up:
"TCU had every right to dispute the Star-Telegram’s initial reporting. It had every right to demand corrections if facts were wrong, release its own evidence, complain publicly, call the editor and raise holy hell. That is how grown-up institutions deal with journalism they dislike. They answer it. They don't confiscate the press pass."
TCU stayed silent until things got out of hand.
ShreveFrog
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Barry who?
He wrote: "But (Buddie) and his first-string media handlers failed to provide factual counter-evidence, on or off the record."
Where was the factual evidence in ST's original story about Fields being bullied and spit on and coaches' indifference to it?
He also wrote: "... the public now knows that this wasn't merely some unfortunate bit of locker-room horseplay that got out of hand."
WTH ever thought that? This guy's an idiot. Is he a current or former ST employee?
He wrote: "But (Buddie) and his first-string media handlers failed to provide factual counter-evidence, on or off the record."
Where was the factual evidence in ST's original story about Fields being bullied and spit on and coaches' indifference to it?
He also wrote: "... the public now knows that this wasn't merely some unfortunate bit of locker-room horseplay that got out of hand."
WTH ever thought that? This guy's an idiot. Is he a current or former ST employee?
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HeidelFrog
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Barry completely dodges the actual issue. The Star-Telegram made the claims. They said Fields was targeted, insulted, threatened, spit on, repeatedly went to coaches, and TCU made “no attempts to de-escalate.” It is not TCU’s job to prove their unnamed source wrong. It was the Star-Telegram’s job to verify those claims before they printed them.
Now we have the victim’s account, Fields own texts, witness statements and the arrest affidavit. What backs up any of that original narrative?
Barry wants to lecture TCU about how “grown-ups” act. How about some grown-up journalism.
Was Fields being targeted, threatened and spit on? Did he repeatedly complain to coaches? Did TCU make “no attempts to de-escalate”? What backs that up?
