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Sangria Wine

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The PAC footprint is more workable with the BIGXII system. We have nice, big airports. For early season one-offs, the PAC-B1G matchups work. Having them in a Conference all together sort of kills the Rose Bowl raison d'etre. But, annihilating the Institutions is all the fashion in these sad times...
The PAC and B12 should be talking seriously about a merger that maintains traditional conferences as divisions and has a fantastic conference championship game. Together, if they held firm to one another. they could force guaranteed inclusion into whatever the SEC and ESPN has cooking for the future of major college sports.
 

Virginia Frog

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The PAC and B12 should be talking seriously about a merger that maintains traditional conferences as divisions and has a fantastic conference championship game. Together, if they held firm to get me another. they could force guaranteed inclusion into whatever the SEC and ESPN has cooking for the future of major college sports.
Maybe so.

The problem is that a combined B12/PAC 24 doesn't equate to either the B1G 15 or the SEC 16. This "new" league would still be vulnerable to the vultures when/if those two conferences decide to expand to 18 or 20.

The speculation out there is that the next battleground is the mid-Atlantic states of Virginia and the Carolinas. Both would like to secure at the minimum a VA school and a NC one (eyeballs in growing states, status schools -UVa, UNC, Duke- and continuing their geographic continuity (SEC 2 more "southern" states to complete their dominion, or B1G two more "eastern" properties with multiple large cities.) VaTech and NCSt could be the toggle: UVa/UNC to B1G, VT/NCSU to SEC or inverse.

With a "Big Pac" conference we'd still be a target, more with the B1G than the SEC.
B1G: Kansas, USC, and three/five others: Stanford, Oregon, Wash, and maybe Colorado of Cal.
SEC: Kansas to group with Mizzou, OkSt to group with UT, OU and Arky. (for SEC,no more Texas teams are necessary most believe.)
 

Wexahu

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Maybe so.

The problem is that a combined B12/PAC 24 doesn't equate to either the B1G 15 or the SEC 16. This "new" league would still be vulnerable to the vultures when/if those two conferences decide to expand to 18 or 20.

The speculation out there is that the next battleground is the mid-Atlantic states of Virginia and the Carolinas. Both would like to secure at the minimum a VA school and a NC one (eyeballs in growing states, status schools -UVa, UNC, Duke- and continuing their geographic continuity (SEC 2 more "southern" states to complete their dominion, or B1G two more "eastern" properties with multiple large cities.) VaTech and NCSt could be the toggle: UVa/UNC to B1G, VT/NCSU to SEC or inverse.

With a "Big Pac" conference we'd still be a target, more with the B1G than the SEC.
B1G: Kansas, USC, and three/five others: Stanford, Oregon, Wash, and maybe Colorado of Cal.
SEC: Kansas to group with Mizzou, OkSt to group with UT, OU and Arky. (for SEC,no more Texas teams are necessary most believe.)
I've been trying (well, not really) to muster up the enthusiasm to give two [ Finebaum ]s about all of this, but it's hard. It all just seems so uninteresting at this point. They've sucked the soul right out of college football, and to a large degree college sports.
 

HG73

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The B1GSEC is already here. Just as soon as the B1G and SEC get their new TV contracts there will be a new super conference. It will be those two. And ND who will be forced into the B1G due to the sheer volume of money involved. Those 31 teams will make about twice what the PAC/ACC/BIG12 teams will make. If that's not a super conference then I don't know what is.

Now this is not the worst thing in the world for us. We'll be making 50% more than we were ($40mil vs $60mil). That's enough to keep running a competitive program, especially when our NIL money gets worked out.

The B1G has had a money advantage for decades and they are still no better than the other conferences. And the SEC is still the SEC.

I don't think anyone will be poached. The B1GSEC doesn't need any more teams, they're already at 30-31. Maybe one more for even divisions. None of the PAC/ACC/BIG12 will do any poaching since they're all going to make about the same money.
 
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