KillerFrog InD KitchenSink
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It takes two to tango...
Big XII actively considering BYU
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Mean Purple
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and it takes one to [ Finebaum ]. what's your point?
You don't think those conferences are not already talking to folks behind the curtain? Their press release is to ensure they don't get the lawyer threats bowlsby threw at the SEC and ESPN.
KillerFrog InD KitchenSink
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My point is that there is no place to "bolt". Sure, talk to them, but the PAC-12 is not going to expand.
Eight
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right now, who knows in the future and there is no need to rush into any type of decision until the big 12 gets a clearer picture about what OUT is willing to pay to get out of the conference early
Mean Purple
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They will have to expand in the next couple of years to survive. Just the reality of it all.
Bizarro Frog
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One positive with BYU is if they get elevated to a Power 5 conference I don' think it would affect our ability to move if realignment occurs again. Everyone knows the good and bad of what they bring to the table and if the PAC 12 wanted them they would already be a member. They also play the role of villain wherever they go and are fun to beat the crap out of.
KillerFrog InD KitchenSink
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Agree that is the first step. And that could take some time. But I think the league needs to be ready to expand as soon as that is resolved so that the league has 10 teams to keep the TV contract intact.
FrogCoach84
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BYU, UCF, Cincy and Houston make sense. If WVU should bolt you add USF as UCF’s EST zone partner.
If anyone else is able to bolt for a P5 conference then this thing is dead anyway…if it isn’t already.
Boise and SMU don’t bring enough to the table to make any sense to me. I would look to Memphis before either of those two.
If anyone else is able to bolt for a P5 conference then this thing is dead anyway…if it isn’t already.
Boise and SMU don’t bring enough to the table to make any sense to me. I would look to Memphis before either of those two.
KillerFrog InD KitchenSink
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PAC-12 has it's issues, but expansion with leftover Big 12 schools doesn't really solve them, unfortunately. Who knows what happens in the distant future- things can and will change- but in the immediate future the remaining 8 have to make do with the cards dealt.
froglash88
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Hey
At least the conference killers have media that supports them and whines when they lose (TCU won on an illegal pick play, that’s So unfair) They are the Anti-Muck.
If the 25 year olds bring the numbers, bring them in for football only. I guess we can read their rags for entertainment.
At least the conference killers have media that supports them and whines when they lose (TCU won on an illegal pick play, that’s So unfair) They are the Anti-Muck.
If the 25 year olds bring the numbers, bring them in for football only. I guess we can read their rags for entertainment.
CountryFrog
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I don't think the PAC 12 controls its own destiny at this point. If the Big 10 or SEC decide they want USC, Oregon, or anyone else in the PAC then the conference will die. And if those conferences don't want any of those teams then there's no need for the PAC to do anything in the near future.
The Artist Formerly Known as PhormerPhrog
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The difference this time is that they're sitting at the kids table.
Paul in uhh
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Seeing BYU play at WVU on Saturday night would be a trip
JogginFrog
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Spent a couple of weeks in Utah years ago; client was a Catholic school. Driving through SLC, I noticed a Chinese restaurant on nearly every block. Asked the client, "Why so many Chinese in SLC?" He answered, "Same reason we Catholics are here."
He enjoyed my confused expression, then explained that when the golden spike was driven at Promontory Point, all of the Chinese railroad crews working from the west were immediately laid off, as were Irish Catholic crews working from the east. Many stayed on to work the mines around Park City...and eventually to open schools and restaurants.
Punter1
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I freakin love BYU...loved them since they beat SMU with a last second hail mary in a bowl game in 198whatever.
Their teams are competitive, the schools cares about sports, their fan base is passionate and shows up with 6 kids to every game.
BYU + UCF keeps the Big 12/10/whatever a Power 5...
Their teams are competitive, the schools cares about sports, their fan base is passionate and shows up with 6 kids to every game.
BYU + UCF keeps the Big 12/10/whatever a Power 5...
Putt4Purple
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Good Lord! Houston adds nothing and detracts the Big 12. Houstonians will not watch the Cougars when UT, T A&M, LSU, OU, and other alumni who live in Houston and could care less about supporting UH when their teams are playing the same time and or day. The other three I agree with. Add Colorado St. Then you have a conference.
Paul in uhh
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If you care about fan base size and competitive programs then yes BYU is an add. Not a great fit culturally or geographically but TV eyeballs drives the decisions.
if you’re adding teams from outside TX I think that’s recruiting should be considered. TCU needs to play in markets where our recruits are.
if you’re adding teams from outside TX I think that’s recruiting should be considered. TCU needs to play in markets where our recruits are.
Frog-O-Rama
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1984 Holiday Bowl
