Big 10 Presidents to discuss expansion Sunday!

[HG73]

Still think this is all about notre dame. All this talk about rutgers and uconn is just to get nd to join. Sure, if ut would join then the big10 woud take them in a second, but that's not likely.

If nd knuckles under and joins, party's over. If nd doesn't join, then we'll have 6-12 more months of "study" until they do join. It'll be fun if nd jilts the big10 again.

 

[2314@work]

QUOTE(PhormerPhrog @ Apr 18 2010, 12:08 AM) [snapback]546220[/snapback]
It's in Las Colinas off 114 and Rochelle. Us LC residents like to say that Las Colinas is Mexican for "we're not Irving."

But in reality you are Irving. LC just a "neighborhood."
If you call the cops, Irving PD shows up. There is no LCPD.
And your address when mailing is "Irving."
Get over it.

 

[The Artist Formerly Known as PhormerPhrog]

QUOTE(2314 @ Apr 18 2010, 08:00 AM) [snapback]546256[/snapback]
But in reality you are Irving. LC just a "neighborhood."
If you call the cops, Irving PD shows up. There is no LCPD.
And your address when mailing is "Irving."
Get over it.


It's all meant as a joke. Get over it.

 

[2314@work]

QUOTE(PhormerPhrog @ Apr 18 2010, 08:29 AM) [snapback]546263[/snapback]
It's all meant as a joke. Get over it.

I think leftover pizza is a great breakfast. Am I on the right thread?
Or do I need to "get over" :tongue:

 

[The Artist Formerly Known as PhormerPhrog]

I think this is the right thread. $10 says it gets moved to the GB by 10:30.

I once applied for a low-level position at the BXII offices. I was way over-qualified but I was doing some consulting at the time that paid well and took up little time so the low salary of the job wouldn't have bothered me. I had references from two big OU donors, two TU alums, and an Aggot but didn't get the job. Maybe having TCU on the resume was a deterant...

 

[2314@work]

QUOTE(PhormerPhrog @ Apr 18 2010, 08:43 AM) [snapback]546267[/snapback]
I think this is the right thread. $10 says it gets moved to the GB by 10:30.

I once applied for a low-level position at the BXII offices. I was way over-qualified but I was doing some consulting at the time that paid well and took up little time so the low salary of the job wouldn't have bothered me. I had references from two big OU donors, two TU alums, and an Aggot but didn't get the job. Maybe having TCU on the resume was a deterant...

They were thinking you might execute a takeover :tongue:

 

[HG73]

QUOTE(MrTitleist @ Apr 18 2010, 01:34 AM) [snapback]546233[/snapback]
So answer me this: Does TCU want to leave the MWC?

The expansion talk is really interesting, it's on pretty much every message board I look at, everyone debating the same things. But it appears the dominoes are going to fall when the Big 12 decides what it wants to do.. the FBS and FCS landscapes are going to dramatically change.. 2012 is going to be a pretty interesting year of football. Texas State, UTSA are really chomping at the bit to move up to FBS football. UTSA has already signed home and home deals w/ Arizona and Arizona State.



IMO most everybody connected with TCU really likes the MWC and the rivalries that are developing. But, MWC is not an AQ conference and personally I doubt whether the MWC can become an AQ conference since the actual rules governing admittance haven't/won't be made public by the bcs.

 

[2314@work]

QUOTE(HG73 @ Apr 18 2010, 09:41 AM) [snapback]546288[/snapback]
IMO most everybody connected with TCU really likes the MWC and the rivalries that are developing. But, MWC is not an AQ conference and personally I doubt whether the MWC can become an AQ conference since the actual rules governing admittance haven't/won't be made public by the bcs.

The rules are there are no rules. Rules get made up along the way.

 

[Opintel]

QUOTE(2314 @ Apr 18 2010, 09:47 AM) [snapback]546292[/snapback]
The rules are there are no rules. Rules get made up along the way.

...we don't need no stink'n...well you know. :tongue:

I want in the SEC - so there!

 

[2314@work]

QUOTE(Opintel @ Apr 18 2010, 11:44 AM) [snapback]546330[/snapback]
...we don't need no stink'n...well you know. :tongue:

I want in the SEC - so there!

I've heard the Security and Exchange Commission pays well. :tongue:

 

[BABYFACE]

QUOTE(crunch @ Apr 18 2010, 12:33 AM) [snapback]546226[/snapback]
Your uncle is an idiot.


Why is his uncle and idiot, Crunch? We have no idea who the Big 12 would take if they expanded or replaced members. Personally, I would hope that TCU would be at the top of their list. None of us have any idea who they would offer, it is all speculation. Since FF's uncle is the DC of the Big 12, he might have a little more insight than the rest of us. That doesn't mean any of their prior discusssions on who to invite is written in stone and could change daily. Again, personally, I would hope TCU would be any conferences wish list.

 

[Dogfrog]

QUOTE(FrogsFanatic @ Apr 18 2010, 12:01 AM) [snapback]546216[/snapback]
my uncle is Tim Weiser (Deputy Commissioner) and heres the list he said for likely additons/replacements

1. TCU
2. BYU
3. Colorado State
4. Houston


I'm sure your "uncle" is real pleased you posted this publicly and used his name. :tongue:

 

[Big Frog II]

QUOTE(MrTitleist @ Apr 18 2010, 12:34 AM) [snapback]546233[/snapback]
So answer me this: Does TCU want to leave the MWC?

The expansion talk is really interesting, it's on pretty much every message board I look at, everyone debating the same things. But it appears the dominoes are going to fall when the Big 12 decides what it wants to do.. the FBS and FCS landscapes are going to dramatically change.. 2012 is going to be a pretty interesting year of football. Texas State, UTSA are really chomping at the bit to move up to FBS football. UTSA has already signed home and home deals w/ Arizona and Arizona State.

TCU does not want to leave the MWC. However, seismic changes in conference reshuffling could make everyone consider their options.

 

[joejordan]

QUOTE(BABYFACE @ Apr 18 2010, 01:23 PM) [snapback]546351[/snapback]
Why is his uncle and idiot, Crunch? We have no idea who the Big 12 would take if they expanded or replaced members. Personally, I would hope that TCU would be at the top of their list. None of us have any idea who they would offer, it is all speculation. Since FF's uncle is the DC of the Big 12, he might have a little more insight than the rest of us. That doesn't mean any of their prior discusssions on who to invite is written in stone and could change daily. Again, personally, I would hope TCU would be any conferences wish list.

1. For putting his job in jeopardy by sharing specifics such as these with frogfanatic (assuming its true and not chipotle)
2. TCU makes little sense for them, barring complete abandonment by the big 2.
3. Houston and CSU makes even less sense than TCU.
4. From some perspectives, BYU makes some sense, but looked at through the prism of reality, it's never gonna happen.

I don't have a relative in the Commish ofc, but I do know and speak regularly to folks who get paid handsomely to monitor, act, and react to the ever-changing landscape of college football, for the protection and best interest of their employer. These are not likely scenarios.

 

[BABYFACE]

Sometimes the best choice isn't the big state school. If th criteria is inviting based on the best FB programs available then TCU fits that list. If it is about 30k plus enrollment, then they don't. I wouldn't discount TCU in this. TV sets captured is subjective and can be argued either way. One thing to consider is politics. The Big 12 would come under tremendous scrutiny from the public and media in Texas if they passed over a top FB program like TCU and that the BCS autobid conferences are not about quality competition. While we know it is about the money, they the bCS conferences don't want to outright admit that. Passing over a TCU this time might be too much political fallout here in Texas for the Big 12 and maybe the Big 12 knows this. However, I could be completely wrong on this.

It seems at times us older Frog fans discount our school. The time has come and gone for that to stop. TCU has become a top 10 program and it is about time for some here to accept that.

 

[joejordan]

QUOTE(BABYFACE @ Apr 18 2010, 01:59 PM) [snapback]546364[/snapback]
Sometimes the best choice isn't the big state school. If th criteria is inviting based on the best FB programs available then TCU fits that list. If it is about 30k plus enrollment, then they don't. I wouldn't discount TCU in this. TV sets captured is subjective and can be argued either way. One thing to consider is politics. The Big 12 would come under tremendous scrutiny from the public and media in Texas if they passed over a top FB program like TCU and that the BCS autobid conferences are not about quality competition. While we know it is about the money, they the bCS conferences don't want to outright admit that. Passing over a TCU this time might be too much political fallout here in Texas for the Big 12 and maybe the Big 12 knows this. However, I could be completely wrong on this.

It seems at times us older Frog fans discount our school. The time has come and gone for that to stop. TCU has become a top 10 program and it is about time for some here to accept that.

Sadly, it has very little to do with 'Top 10' talent. Also, they really don't care what the current enrollment is. Simply looking for markets they can appeal to, and sell eyeballs to advertisers. Sure, we have our fans...both affiliated and 'other', but that will not get the b12 where they want to be.

On the political front, who do you propose be TCU's standard bearer in the State Capitol, and what leverage would they carry? I cannot think of a scenario where TCU's inclusion or exclusion in any b12 iteration makes it off the floor of any session, and even then would likely be after hours speech by a FW pol. It's just not that important.

I do not discount TCU. I think it is the best undergraduate experience available in the country, for a certain slice of the populace. I want and expect only the best for TCU.

 

[2314@work]

QUOTE(crunch @ Apr 18 2010, 01:16 PM) [snapback]546365[/snapback]
Sadly, it has very little to do with 'Top 10' talent. Also, they really don't care what the current enrollment is. Simply looking for markets they can appeal to

I know if I post "TCU is in the fourth-largest media market in the country" you will come back with "but Texa$ and A$M fans are represented here big time" and that's a sound argument.
But the facts are the Big 12 has ZERO schools in a Top 5 market like they could if TCU was asked to join.
I also agree with 'Face that the Big 12 could not shake all the bad pub if they passed on TCU.

 

[AEAfrog]

QUOTE(2314 @ Apr 18 2010, 12:22 PM) [snapback]546367[/snapback]
I also agree with 'Face that the Big 12 could not shake all the bad pub if they passed on TCU.


The problem is that the bad publicity may not matter. Fans of UT, TAMU, and the rest aren't going to stop being fans of those schools just because the conference has less than than noble business practices. They won't suffer in the polls because of it either. They may suffer in public opinion but I can't imagine that translating into any actual harm for the conference.

 

[joejordan]

A 'stat' like having a school in a metro area is worthless. Advertisers and sponsors do a little research. They know the numbers, and pay accordingly.

A little halfassed PR campaign would quiet any dustup over TCU, with a nice story about how TCU has overcome so many obstacles to earn their place in the upper suite of the burgeoning MWC (and they might get AQ status soon!), and how the b12 wouldn't want to harm those chances - we're all for helping the MWC.

Till it comes to a midnight backroom vote.

 

[2314@work]

QUOTE(crunch @ Apr 18 2010, 01:30 PM) [snapback]546370[/snapback]
A 'stat' like having a school in a metro area is worthless. Advertisers and sponsors do a little research.

I'm sorry, but I need more than just your opinion. Not saying you are wrong, but I don't like you putting words in other people's mouths.
Put up a link where a major advertiser has gone on record to back up your claim.
I say it means more than you think.
4 is a pretty large number - too large to just dismiss.
Hell, Big 12 has ZERO schools in Texas' top three markets. That probably causes more concern than you or your so-called, in-tune buddies think.
It would be foolish of Big 12 to dismiss that. That league is not really tearing up the ratings charts. Just look at hoop numbers. And ask Barry Horn.