Just a reminder Pitt didn’t actually beat Clemson. But if they had, there should be consequences related to losing to Pitt at the end of the season. This isn’t that hard.
I know I don't know [ steaming pile of Orgeron ] but I can tell you a major issue in expansion is simply the logistics of staging large events like this on short notice, when you don't even know where they are going to be until 2-3 weeks prior. It's simply not as easy as snapping your fingers and doing it. I don't think they'd want it where Quarterfinal games are all played in neutral-site Bowl games because of the travel demands on fans so you'd probably be looking at on campus home field sites.
Bowl games are planned sometimes years in advance and it is known exactly where and when they will be played. It's just totally different than saying, on December 4th, Big-State U with your 80,000 seat stadium, you're hosting a game in three weeks. Oh, you've got something else planned there that week? Too bad, cancel it, this game is on your field, get it done. Security contract, food vendors, marketing, tickets, yada, yada, yada..........everyone makes that NAIA, D2, D3 comparison but if you think putting on one of those games where 3-10k fans might be there is anywhere close to putting on an FBS CFP playoff type game, in the words of eight, I don't know what to tell you. Not saying it can't be done, but there are MAJOR things that will need to be taken into account that nobody seems to want to worry about it, we just want more teams so a 8-4 conference champ has a chance to win a title. At least 60+ venues will have to at least make preliminary contingencies to be prepared to stage a game, just in case.
Yes, the NFL does it all the time but it's their business and there are only 32 teams involved.
jesus...... i was waiting for your third tired argument. it works because it isn't nearly as difficult as you continue to try to make it out to be.
it will get handled the same way the ncaa does it with baseball because the ncaa play-offs are run by the ncaa with the help of host schools. i haven't heard of problems but i am sure you will sit around and fret about issues that are real problems right? goodness knows no one in the ncaa knows a damn thing about scheduling logistics since they oversee how many post season events involving how many individual athletes, teams coaches, and conferences?
the ncaa makes a great deal of money to have sufficient staff for setting up 7 football games. wow......what an insurmountable task to schedule 7 football games over three weekends. i am sure the logistics can get worked out no different than at every other level, in the various pro leagues where they face this problem.
serious, if the biggest worry about expanding the play-offs from 4-8 teams is worrying if a 6 loss team MIGHT get in and running out of freaking hot dogs (and diced onions) the only proper response is what the scheiss are we waiting for to do it?
I've said it before and I'll say it again. Make the first round of the playoffs on the week of the current CCG's, and eliminate the meaningless CCG's.
The four teams who lose remain eligible for the traditional bowls, so their seasons don't end with a loss in Tuscaloosa or Columbus, which would suck for a fan.
Those four losing teams still get a great travel experience, have the same length of time to plan, the Rose Bowl still happens on Jan 1 and the Rose Parade still happens. Fans don't need to make tentative plans to go to LA a week after a quarterfinal. They still get a cool bowl as a consolation prize if they lose.
The winners go to the semifinals, and the semis have a full event flavor and those fans have time to plan too.
This way, you don't worry about kids missing any more school than they do now, they still have the same time to rest and refresh that they have now, travel isn't more complicated by short notice that would happen if you tried to fit the quarters into mid late December, bowls don't lose prestige or have to change schedule, get a good number of hotel rooms sold, and the 5th to 8th best teams in the country don't lose the experience.
If you don't do this, there is a guarantee that instead of OU going to the Sugar Bowl and Michigan going to the Rose, they'll get to travel to Tuscaloosa or Columbus for a one and done. As a fan, that would suck. As a player who got yourself into the playoff, a game at Wisconsin in December with no bowl swag etc. would be a kick in the nuts.
from the ncaa's won website:
"The NCAA administers 90 championships in 24 sports for its member institutions. Each championship is run by a committee of coaches and administrators from NCAA member schools who are experts in their sport."
that's it, no freaking way this organization could possibly oversee 7 football games over 3 weekends.
Ok. Name me one event attended by 60,000+ people that isn't run by a major professional sports league that is scheduled 3 weeks in advance. Just one. The same way as basketball? Even NCAA Tournament first and second round locations are determined years in advance. That's kind of my point. I think the people in the NCAA do know a little bit about logistics since they've been putting on events forever, and that there must be a reason why they don't decide where to have the Final Four a month before the tournament. In fact, I can already tell you where the 2026 Final Four will be.
Compare the resources the NFL, NBA and MLB has to what the NCAA has. The resources and the in-place structure aren't even remotely comparable. I'm not sayng this is the biggest worry to playoff expansion and adding games (although I think its a significant one) but I know its way more complicated than just saying add another week because more teams need a chance.
Ok. Name me one event attended by 60,000+ people that isn't run by a major professional sports league that is scheduled 3 weeks in advance. Just one. .
so why do you think the nfl is capable and the ncaa wouldn't be capable? the ncaa isn't a billion dollar business that oversees the activities of 1,000's of athletes and coaches, has no experience with event planning, or dealing with the net
we aren't curing cancer, this isn't advanced mathematics, writing code or something actually difficult.
you start making contingency plans as soon as the pairings are announced. you don't actually wait until the week of, but before then and you only have 4 POSSIBLE GAME SITES. oh my god!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! how could the ncaa possibly be expected to handle such a complex task. maybe cal tech or mit could loan out a few rocket scientist for this herculean task.
high school coaches in this state for decades have known the location of next week's play-off game before they played this weeks game simply by doing this revolutionary thing called planning ahead. their athletic directors with only being retired coaches in most cases actually could do things like make travel arrangements beyond calling whataburger as the game ended to place a to go order.
you trot the same tired arguments out each time and there are so many examples of how it currently works the only possible explanations is you just want to argue or you refuse to accept any other idea. doesn't matter because i am done.
Did you type all of that and forgot to even read Jake102's post that was posted 20 minutes before your post?Name me one example. Just one. If it's so damn easy to do, why is literally EVERY single 50,000+ spectator amateur sporting event, in terms of where and when it's being played, scheduled at least a year in advance. Every single one.
The money the NFL, MLB, and NBA generate dwarfs what the NCAA brings in, and the professional leagues have a structure set in place years in advance. It's simply not comparable. And now you're comparing the Texas high school playoffs to the CFP?
4 possible game sites? What are you talking about? You'd only know that by the early December. Starting the year you literally have 50+ possible game sites and then as late as November you might have as many as 10 depending on how the last few weeks unfold.
2018 - Virginia vs Ohio - with like four days notice, moved to Vanderbilt's stadium.
2017 - LSU vs BYU moved from Houston to New Orleans. About a four day notice
2016 - LSU and Florida flipped home games. Both teams had to cancel a game against another opponent (FCS) to make it happen.
Should I go on?
Again, I'm not saying it's an impossible task, just that it's not nearly as simple as some people make it out to be. Otherwise, why are all schedules released over a year in advance?
Did you type all of that and forgot to even read Jake102's post above your reply 20 minutes before your post?
If you did and still posted this then LOL
No. I believe that playing in a bowl game after losing in the first round of playoffs would be a nice consolation for those that lose. And I believe the playoffs would be a complete freaking joke if playing in the playoffs means going to Wisconsin for one game on December 20th.
you honestly believe that playing in a bowl game would be more appealing to players than making the play off and a shot at a national title and one reason is "no bowl swag"