Yeah, but just think about how great everything would be if he were still here, we'd be so much better.
2025 Recruiting Thread
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An-Cap Frog
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Would have won 10 national championships by now.
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What Up Toad
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You're arguing against Patterson. 2023 would have been Sonny's first true class at TCU. What coach could compete with a team of freshmen?
Look at who the best players were on the 2023 team. Emani Bailey, JP Richardson, Josh Newton, Jared Wiley, Mark Perry. All of them were Sonny's transfers. We mostly suffered on the lines where Patterson routinely used seniors and rs-seniors to make up for not having 4-5 star recruits. If Patterson was so great at evaluating talent at the end of his career here, where were the developed juniors and seniors that we normally have on our lines?
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No idea where you’re getting that. GP left an absolute dumpster fire.
Just look at the team right now. Where are all the juniors and seniors from GP‘s ’19, ‘20, & ‘21 recruiting classes? Mike Nichols was the only lineman.
When Sonny took over, there wasn’t a single lineman in the ‘21 recruiting class.
Sonny quickly signed 6 linemen in 2 weeks.
The ‘22 team that GP left behind would not have won 5 games without the 10 portal starters that Dykes acquired last minute in the Dec. ‘21 portal.
Dykes literally came in, surveyed the damage; then quickly went to the portal and got exactly what he needed. He hit on 10 out of 10 portal starters. Newton, Dotson, Bailey, Mitchell, Fox, Ali, Hodges, Cooks, Perry, Wiley, plus several backups. Nobody does that.
TCU is a conference contender for 2025.
Just take a look at how many returners TCU has. There are no more gaping holes.
We need 2-3 WRs and 2-3 DLs, along with patches at OL, CB/S, LB, & RB.
That’s very doable,
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CryptoMiner
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I think you also have to remember the way recruiting took place prior to NIL and the portal of which Gary had some of and Sonny has all of it has a significant impact on a recruiting class. they are literally day-to-day players and that wasn't the case for the bulk of Gary's tenure. I am not saying Sonny is a better recruiter than Gary just saying the rules changed quite significantly and may be harder to draw a true comparison. I am optimistic about this team going into 2025, but then again I have almost always been optimistic to be fair.
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In Gary’s era for the most part was amateur college football. Now it is professional. You can not recruit players and expect them to stay even one season.
Development of talent is limited at best. Now you recruit via the portal for experience and from high school for those who can play sooner rather than later. Even if you have funding there is always someone else who would over pay for talent. Players who show or think they are better than what you pay them now, leave for brighter lights and more money. Stability is a thing of the past and each season is to coin a phrase is “a new set of downs”.
Development of talent is limited at best. Now you recruit via the portal for experience and from high school for those who can play sooner rather than later. Even if you have funding there is always someone else who would over pay for talent. Players who show or think they are better than what you pay them now, leave for brighter lights and more money. Stability is a thing of the past and each season is to coin a phrase is “a new set of downs”.
Mean Purple
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It's a different ball game from the main years of GP. portal, nil, basically contractors.
before this it was really about evaluating a kid and the ability to develop them.
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The ‘22 team was razor thin and it was absolute miracle that we had no major injuries that year.
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82 Frog Fever
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I agree. Imagine how thin it would’ve been without the 10 impact players that Dykes’ brought in during the last 10 days of the 12/21 portal.
If GP had been left in place, he would’ve gone into the ‘22 season with glaring wholes in his depth chart.
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Duggan
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Ya he left some real bad players. Geez.
No way TCU goes to Natty without the players GP left.
No idea how you're analysis is so far off.
The problem with Dykes is he's trying to do the portal like he did at SMU. You can't do that at TCU. BIG 12 is a way different league than AAC.
Duggan
Avila
Miller
Davis
Hodges-Tomlinson
QJ
Dylan Horton
Taye Barber
Ya he left some real bad players. Geez.
No way TCU goes to Natty without the players GP left.
No idea how you're analysis is so far off.
The problem with Dykes is he's trying to do the portal like he did at SMU. You can't do that at TCU. BIG 12 is a way different league than AAC.
I agree with you D Dee. You can have rankings in the SD arena of # 18 # 23. If you lose half those guys ,it is not a success. If you have Bonafide studs like Colton Bolticoff leave for Indiana. And Randen Fontenette Safety leave for Vanderbilt as well as PLENTY of others ...you have a problem.
82 Frog Fever
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Bwaaahahaha,
“No way TCU goes to Natty without the players GP left”. YA THINK! Only about 15 of those players were Dykes‘. He had 3 weeks to impact the ‘22 team and he knocked it out of the park.
You listed 8 GP players. Now, try filling out a complete 2022 depth chart with just GP players. It’s laughable!!!
Without Dykes’ contributions, the ‘22 team would have struggled to get bowl eligible.
Just start right up the gut….. How about no center, nose tackle, or MLB? Alan Ali, Damonic Williams, & Johnny Hodges are all Dykes’ recruits. Also No TE Jared Wiley, CB Josh Newton, SS Mark Perry.
In 3 weeks Dykes secured 6 front-line starters and several other linemen, like Caleb Fox & Tymon Mitchell, that were in the 2 deep line rotations, as well as Emani Bailey.
In just 3 weeks Dykes secured nearly 30% of the 1st stringers on the ‘22 team.
In contrast, GP had a decade in B12 TCU, and he had holes all over the depth chart.….and Dykes‘ proved it in only 3 weeks.
- “The problem with Dykes is he's trying to do the portal like he did at SMU. You can't do that at TCU.”
Stop! I cant stop laughing. Dykes has 29 commits in this HS recruiting class, and it may grow. It’s also the largest since we’ve been in the B12.
Dykes is 26-13, and he’ll get at least 9 more wins next year. He’ll be ok without your advice.
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