2020 Recruiting Thread

[CryptoMiner]

Stanford grad transfers

Apparently several Stanford players are unable to get into their graduate programs so will transfer. We should go after the bunch:

DT Michael Williams 6-2/290 2 year starter and from FW All Saints, 24 tackles, 6 TFLs and 1 sack last season
DE Jovan Swann 6-2/271 31 tackles, 7.5 TFLs and 4 sacks last season
DE Thomas Schaffer 6-7/285 16 tackles, 6 TFLs and 1 sack last season

 

[CryptoMiner]

Not posted as much for the tweet as it is for me having no idea he was the recruiting coordinator at UH. Former Frog in case the name doesn’t immediately ring a bell. No, Chris Scott is not @The Artist Formerly Known as PhormerPhrog

Coached at Irving and Katy before moving to the college ranks. Was at SMU a few years as a DB coach.

 

[Eight]

Stanford grad transfers

Apparently several Stanford players are unable to get into their graduate programs so will transfer. We should go after the bunch:

DT Michael Williams 6-2/290 2 year starter and from FW All Saints, 24 tackles, 6 TFLs and 1 sack last season
DE Jovan Swann 6-2/271 31 tackles, 7.5 TFLs and 4 sacks last season
DE Thomas Schaffer 6-7/285 16 tackles, 6 TFLs and 1 sack last season

agreed, you would think if they are smart enough to handle the academics of stanford they could pick up gary's defense fairly quick

swann and schaffer are from the midwest so it will be interesting if they want to go back home

 

[CryptoMiner]

anyone prospect with "legendary" and "ultimate" highlights deserves an offer

I think the coaches are somewhat confident about their ability to get him to flip. Pass rushing specialist.

 

[Eight]

I think the coaches are somewhat confident about their ability to get him to flip. Pass rushing specialist.

not doubting the talent, just loving the names

noticed carver lost 4 regular season games by 18 points and never gave up by more than 20 in any of those 4 loses.

too soon to say he sounds like he knows what it means to be a tcu defensive player?

 

[Moose Stuff]

Stanford grad transfers

Apparently several Stanford players are unable to get into their graduate programs so will transfer. We should go after the bunch:

DT Michael Williams 6-2/290 2 year starter and from FW All Saints, 24 tackles, 6 TFLs and 1 sack last season
DE Jovan Swann 6-2/271 31 tackles, 7.5 TFLs and 4 sacks last season
DE Thomas Schaffer 6-7/285 16 tackles, 6 TFLs and 1 sack last season

Package deal please.

 

[Moose Stuff]

I think the coaches are somewhat confident about their ability to get him to flip. Pass rushing specialist.

Supposed to be visiting soon.

 

[Froggish]

I think the coaches are somewhat confident about their ability to get him to flip. Pass rushing specialist.

Im a skeptic that this kid can grow big enough to get off any blocks from a decent D1 OT. After watching Mathis get manhandled all year I’m out on the speed rushers. This feels like a reach..Obviously the coaches see different but this feels like the kind of kid that you might use in a 3-3-5 from LB

 

[Eight]

Im a skeptic that this kid can grow big enough to get off any blocks from a decent D1 OT. After watching Mathis get manhandled all year I’m out on the speed rushers. This feels like a reach..Obviously the coaches see different but this feels like the kind of kid that you might use in a 3-3-5 from LB

the big question to me is does coleman have the frame to carry 240+ lbs effectively

frogs have a big need at defensive end and with the loss of sylvester's pledge they have no defensive ends in the class which is a concern.

mathis and colt showed potential at the end of the year, but have some room for growth and development. i know they are young and improved over the season last year.

workman will be a senior and no one knows if bowen will be healthy enough to see the field let alone make an impact. plant played early, looked really raw which you would expect from a guy who hadn't played for a year and we don't know if he will stay outside or move inside. armstrong red-shirted this year to get bigger and stronger and after him that is it.

the post about the trio of stanford d-linemen entering the portal i believe there will be others. if the frogs sign a high school signee that player needs to be someone they believe can help right away or they have to get more help from either a juco or grad transfer in my mind

 

[Froggish]

the big question to me is does coleman have the frame to carry 240+ lbs effectively

frogs have a big need at defensive end and with the loss of sylvester's pledge they have no defensive ends in the class which is a concern.

mathis and colt showed potential at the end of the year, but have some room for growth and development. i know they are young and improved over the season last year.

workman will be a senior and no one knows if bowen will be healthy enough to see the field let alone make an impact. plant played early, looked really raw which you would expect from a guy who hadn't played for a year and we don't know if he will stay outside or move inside. armstrong red-shirted this year to get bigger and stronger and after him that is it.

the post about the trio of stanford d-linemen entering the portal i believe there will be others. if the frogs sign a high school signee that player needs to be someone they believe can help right away or they have to get more help from either a juco or grad transfer in my mind

Colt and Mathis really only showed potential in that they weren't completely horrendous in the last few games. Colt gets a pass as he was a true freshman coming off an injury. I have no idea what was going on with Mathis. He beat nobody off the edge and he consistently got bulldozed off the line of scrimmage. I agree that we need guys who can contribute now.

 

[Eight]

Colt and Mathis really only showed potential in that they weren't completely horrendous in the last few games. Colt gets a pass as he was a true freshman coming off an injury. I have no idea what was going on with Mathis. He beat nobody off the edge and he consistently got bulldozed off the line of scrimmage. I agree that we need guys who can contribute now.

if coleman has the frame to gain the weight i think he is a take with the thought they are going to bring in other prospects in de who are more likely to make an immediate impact in 2020.

obviously you never know if someone will contribute until they get onto campus. my fear is the options are getting slim and i hope we aren't in a place where we are reaching for prospects with a 2-3 year development horizon at a position they need immediate help.

 

[Froggish]

if coleman has the frame to gain the weight i think he is a take with the thought they are going to bring in other prospects in de who are more likely to make an immediate impact in 2020.

obviously you never know if someone will contribute until they get onto campus. my fear is the options are getting slim and i hope we aren't in a place where we are reaching for prospects with a 2-3 year development horizon at a position they need immediate help.

Its easy to think we had a top tier defense and DE isn't that big of an issue, but I believe we gave up 4-5 long TDs last year because either the QB had to much time or we had to sacrifice coverage for a blitzer. When you combine that with have a true freshman at one of the corner spots, I bet the DE cost us a couple of games

 

[Wexahu]

if coleman has the frame to gain the weight i think he is a take with the thought they are going to bring in other prospects in de who are more likely to make an immediate impact in 2020.

obviously you never know if someone will contribute until they get onto campus. my fear is the options are getting slim and i hope we aren't in a place where we are reaching for prospects with a 2-3 year development horizon at a position they need immediate help.

6’1”, 213 lb sounds like add 10-15 pounds and play linebacker to me. Are we just going to be stuck with 210 lb linebackers for the rest of GP’s tenure here?

 

[Moose Stuff]

Is it not entirely possible that Mathis is a better player next year? How good were any of our better DEs as RS-Frosh???

 

[Eight]

Its easy to think we had a top tier defense and DE isn't that big of an issue, but I believe we gave up 4-5 long TDs last year because either the QB had to much time or we had to sacrifice coverage for a blitzer. When you combine that with have a true freshman at one of the corner spots, I bet the DE cost us a couple of games

in the spirit of board rules and not naming players i think it is safe to say that in the loss to smu (as much as the early turnovers by the offense hurt) the inability to get a pass rush did have an impact in the game.

the iowa state game was ugly in the second half where the frogs couldn't stop the run and there wasn't much of a pass rush on purdy.

the ok state game the failure by the defensive end(s) to close down quick enough hurt on the long runs, and in the losses to kstate, baylor, and wvu the frogs could not get consistent pressure at the end of the game.

yes, for those who automatically take the side of defending the defense, i recognize that actually having some offensive production in those games would have alleviated these problems, but if the ultimate goal of this team is to compete for one of the top two spots to make the championship game the play at defensive end and linebacker has to get better.

linebacker is in better shape not only with wallow, but harris and ben both flashed some potential in some key moments late in the year. harris had the stop against ou and ben made a great open field tackle against the wvu running back just before the 4th down that gladney got flagged to extend the drive

i think is very possible the defense holds the level of play at several plays if not gets better even with losses be it corner with gladney, safety, or defensive tackle if ross leaves. defensive end is a big key from this defense going from being good to being able to play at the level needed to win the big 12

 

[Froggish]

Is it not entirely possible that Mathis is a better player next year? How good were any of our better DEs as RS-Frosh???

Absolutely possible..I think we all hope that's the case but there is certainly nothing wrong with quantifiable insurance at the position.

 

[Eight]

6’1”, 213 lb sounds like add 10-15 pounds and play linebacker to me. Are we just going to be stuck with 210 lb linebackers for the rest of GP’s tenure here?

why i posed the question about coleman's frame. i have seen kids who in high school were 215-220, but had a build that they could easily gain 30+ lbs and still be very effective.

coleman is from an inner city new orleans school so i highly doublt carver has an offseason lifting program like aledo, guyer, or even what hayes goes through at athens.

some kids however, have the type of build they are never going to gain weight (i.e. overshown the de from mesquite horn) or have a build that if they gain the weight they lose agility and/or quickness (i.e. collins the de from evangeline)

if the staff believes he can grow into the position and he has the others skills i am all for him if they go get other help for next year

 

[RoyaltyWorePurple]

Is it not entirely possible that Mathis is a better player next year? How good were any of our better DEs as RS-Frosh???

Nope. Whatever they looked like this year is EXACTLY how players will look next.

 

[Froggish]

in the spirit of board rules and not naming players i think it is safe to say that in the loss to smu (as much as the early turnovers by the offense hurt) the inability to get a pass rush did have an impact in the game.

the iowa state game was ugly in the second half where the frogs couldn't stop the run and there wasn't much of a pass rush on purdy.

the ok state game the failure by the defensive end(s) to close down quick enough hurt on the long runs, and in the losses to kstate, baylor, and wvu the frogs could not get consistent pressure at the end of the game.

yes, for those who automatically take the side of defending the defense, i recognize that actually having some offensive production in those games would have alleviated these problems, but if the ultimate goal of this team is to compete for one of the top two spots to make the championship game the play at defensive end and linebacker has to get better.

linebacker is in better shape not only with wallow, but harris and ben both flashed some potential in some key moments late in the year. harris had the stop against ou and ben made a great open field tackle against the wvu running back just before the 4th down that gladney got flagged to extend the drive

i think is very possible the defense holds the level of play at several plays if not gets better even with losses be it corner with gladney, safety, or defensive tackle if ross leaves. defensive end is a big key from this defense going from being good to being able to play at the level needed to win the big 12

Speaking of LBs, Jordan has a nice frame and I hope he can make his way into the rotation and I really like the way Winters closes on a ball carrier...I'm hoping they give him a look at Gaines old Safety spot. He could really be that hybrid we need.

 

[Eight]

Is it not entirely possible that Mathis is a better player next year? How good were any of our better DEs as RS-Frosh???

very possible and i think with mathis entering his third year in the program i would think we start to see some of those physical gains.

the biggest thing to me at de is simply we need bodies that can play next year and be effective. even if mathis and colt have great off seasons and come back next year as a solid pair of de's they are just that, a pair.

we know we can't expect to get through a game effectively with just two de's let alone a season and they not wear down. workman can provide some depth, but what after him?

bowen has been injured almost every year, we aren't sure what they have in plant, and armstrong was a redshirt.