‘Big XII depth’ - we don’t have it

[MinFrog]

We still haven’t been able to attain the depth we need to have sustained success. We have a few injuries and we are all of a sudden battling for bowl eligibility.

The stars can align every 2-3 years and we can run off an 11 win season, but until we can sign top 20 classes or at least not get such little production out of our top rated guys, this is who we are going to be. Contend every other year or two and the off years be a 6-8 win team.

 

[LVH]

Even teams that recruit well can have down years

Just look at USC and Auburn this year. Auburn lost at home to Tennessee who might be worse than Kansas.

You're not wrong that our depth is not where it needs to be, except at the position that matters least when it comes to depth(WR)

 

[4th. down]

Even teams that recruit well can have down years

Just look at USC and Auburn this year. Auburn lost at home to Tennessee who might be worse than Kansas.

You're not wrong that our depth is not where it needs to be, except at the position that matters least when it comes to depth(WR)

We are 7 years into Big 12 membership. GP said it would take 3-5 years to get Big 12 depth. What happened?

 

[Frog Island]

We are 7 years into Big 12 membership. GP said it would take 3-5 years to get Big 12 depth. What happened?

We are recruiting better because we are in the Big12. But Gary is not a closer, so he still miss on out top end targets more often than not. He’s shown that many times over the course of the B12.

 

[Moose Stuff]

We are 7 years into Big 12 membership. GP said it would take 3-5 years to get Big 12 depth. What happened?

We have Big 12 depth. We don’t have OU or UT Big 12 depth. Same way the rest of the SEC doesn’t have Bama, LSU, UGa depth.

 

[Moose Stuff]

We are recruiting better because we are in the Big12. But Gary is not a closer, so he still miss on out top end targets more often than not. He’s shown that many times over the course of the B12.

SMH

 

[Planks]

We have Big 12 depth. We don’t have OU or UT Big 12 depth. Same way the rest of the SEC doesn’t have Bama, LSU, UGa depth.

This. TCU is recruiting at a higher level than anyone else in the Big 12 not named UT or OU. TCU has had the #3 ranked class in the Big 12 each of the last three recruiting classes.

 

[Moose Stuff]

This. TCU is recruiting at a higher level than anyone else in the Big 12 not named UT or OU. TCU has had the #3 ranked class in the Big 12 each of the last three recruiting classes.

Also worth noting that when you run a very green OL out there with an erratic turnover prone QB it doesn’t matter what kind of depth you have. You’re gonna have some struggles. I get it, we’re playing like [ Finebaum ]. But that’s been good enough to lead two top 10 teams deep in the 3rd quarter and trail another by only 4 at the same point.

 

[Realtorfrog]

Also worth noting that when you run a very green OL out there with an erratic turnover prone QB it doesn’t matter what kind of depth you have. You’re gonna have some struggles. I get it, we’re playing like [ steaming pile of Orgeron ]. But that’s been good enough to lead two top 10 teams deep in the 3rd quarter and trail another by only 4 at the same point.

Too rationale for KF but well said

 

[Limp Lizard]

If we want depth and the ability to really have a chance we need to average under #15 with at least one top-10 recruiting class every 4 years. The highest rated class (247) is #21. That ain't gonna get you into the playoffs with any regularity. Enough of the recruiting rankings don't mean much. We do offer a lot of 4-5* players who become all americans at their schools...we do offer them...they just go elsewhere. That is the first 3 reasons this is a bad year

1. Recruiting
2. recruiting
3. recruiting

We have our three or four 4* battling 10-15 4*-5* when we play Texas or OU. We are bring knives to a gun fight.

 

[Frog Island]

SMH

Keep shaking it. But it’s a fact. He’s a lot of great things. A closer isn’t one of them.

 

[Moose Stuff]

Keep shaking it. But it’s a fact. He’s a lot of great things. A closer isn’t one of them.

If being honest is costing us recruits then big deal IMO. And most of those misses aren’t because GP isn’t a closer, it’s because TCU isn’t a closer. The kids who need “closers” are almost always gonna gravitate to the big flashy state school with the massive stadium and huge fan base. We’ll never get those guys with any regularity and it won’t matter who our HC is.

 

[LVH]

Keep shaking it. But it’s a fact. He’s a lot of great things. A closer isn’t one of them.

I think we recruit about as well as we possibly can given what we have to work with.

We aren't a big flashy state school with a 100k seat stadium. We aren't the flagship school in our state. We don't pay players. We don't have ridiculously overdone facilities. We're not a blue blood.

Not quite sure how anyone here expects us to recruit better than we do.

We will have to continue to rely on finding diamonds in the rough and player development. That means we are going to have down years every now and then. As I pointed out even teams who recruit well are having down years. Look at USC and Auburn this year.

 

[tcuball3]

If being honest is costing us recruits then big deal IMO. And most of those misses aren’t because GP isn’t a closer, it’s because TCU isn’t a closer. The kids who need “closers” are almost always gonna gravitate to the big flashy state school with the massive stadium and huge fan base. We’ll never get those guys with any regularity and it won’t matter who our HC is.

This is an excuse, TCU is highly attractive and can be sold, replace some of the old unrelational coaches with some closers

 

[Moose Stuff]

This is an excuse, TCU is highly attractive and can be sold, replace some of the old unrelational coaches with some closers

Well then we just completely disagree and it isn’t worth discussing.

 

[BBG817]

Maybe we can use the proceeds from stadium-wide alcohol sales to help the staff close these higher recruits

 

[Prince of Purpoole]

We have Big 12 depth. We don’t have OU or UT Big 12 depth. Same way the rest of the SEC doesn’t have Bama, LSU, UGa depth.

This is the answer

 

[Bob]

SMH

 

[Despite the odds Frog]

This is an excuse, TCU is highly attractive and can be sold, replace some of the old unrelational coaches with some closers

I agree with Moose about being able to get UT like recruiting. But I agree with TCUball3, TCU can do better and have closers. TCU should be able to, at least, hold onto it's top commits without others pouching. In my opinion TCU allows it's top commits to be pouched at a higher % than a Okie State, a West Virginia, etc. That's got to stop and they can get closers to lower the % and help TCU keep most of their commits.

On a side note while we are complaining about recruiting. TCU has got to get better with recruits photo shots. UT and A&M crush TCU and maybe should build a photo room like UT with lights and all. They rock it compared to TCU.

 

[ifrog]

UT has had depth for years and this year they finally have a team full of juniors and seniors. Depth is important but we are in a rebuilding year. Every team has one. The next two years are going to be special and it will because of experience and maturity.