CountryFrog
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Who are you, Hugh's brother?
FWIW, I don't think he's "scum" as someone else put it but he's done some pretty indefensible things.
Recent coach firings of some interest, maybe
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FWIW, I don't think he's "scum" as someone else put it but he's done some pretty indefensible things.
HornyWartyToad
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As Auburn hires Hugh Freeze, remember his past misdeeds go far beyond calling escorts
Dan Wetzel
·Columnist
Mon, November 28, 2022, 6:11 PM·5 min read
As it turns out, getting caught with the phone numbers of escort services on his University of Mississippi-issued cell might have been the best thing that ever happened to Hugh Freeze’s coaching career — or at least the rebirth of it.
Sounds strange, but this is college football after all, where anything can be explained away in pursuit of victory.
The phone numbers are certainly explainable, or forgivable, or ignorable, at least to a lot of people who aren’t going to get too hung up on someone’s personal life.
They were discovered on Freeze’s phone in 2017, when he still coached Ole Miss. He originally told his athletic director it was a misdial, but it turned out there were “at least” a dozen such misdials. So Freeze resigned.
The “Coach Calling Escort Services” scandal was so salacious it burned into everyone’s memory. It was likely embarrassing to Freeze, but he patched things up with his family, got hired by Liberty University and posted a 34-15 record across four seasons.
Hugh Freeze resigned as Ole Miss head coach in 2017 as the program was embroiled in multiple recruiting scandals and Freeze was found to have made calls to escort services on his school-issued phone. (Photo by Wesley Hitt/Getty Images)
Now Freeze is back in the SEC, hired Monday by Auburn.
The best part for Freeze is that almost all anyone remembers about his past are his marital foibles and not what led to the discovery of those phone calls, which seems far more telling — and damning — about how the man conducts himself.
As Auburn hires Hugh Freeze, remember his past misdeeds go far beyond calling escorts
Auburn's hiring of head coach Hugh Freeze shows anything can be explained away in pursuit of victory.
East Coast
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Boom. Ole Miss used to be one of the schools I casually rooted for. They are now firmly in my hate list (which has gotten pretty large over the last 5 years!), along with the other scum programs that are win at all costs.As Auburn hires Hugh Freeze, remember his past misdeeds go far beyond calling escorts
Dan Wetzel
·Columnist
Mon, November 28, 2022, 6:11 PM·5 min read
As it turns out, getting caught with the phone numbers of escort services on his University of Mississippi-issued cell might have been the best thing that ever happened to Hugh Freeze’s coaching career — or at least the rebirth of it.
Sounds strange, but this is college football after all, where anything can be explained away in pursuit of victory.
The phone numbers are certainly explainable, or forgivable, or ignorable, at least to a lot of people who aren’t going to get too hung up on someone’s personal life.
They were discovered on Freeze’s phone in 2017, when he still coached Ole Miss. He originally told his athletic director it was a misdial, but it turned out there were “at least” a dozen such misdials. So Freeze resigned.
The “Coach Calling Escort Services” scandal was so salacious it burned into everyone’s memory. It was likely embarrassing to Freeze, but he patched things up with his family, got hired by Liberty University and posted a 34-15 record across four seasons.
Hugh Freeze resigned as Ole Miss head coach in 2017 as the program was embroiled in multiple recruiting scandals and Freeze was found to have made calls to escort services on his school-issued phone. (Photo by Wesley Hitt/Getty Images)
Now Freeze is back in the SEC, hired Monday by Auburn.
The best part for Freeze is that almost all anyone remembers about his past are his marital foibles and not what led to the discovery of those phone calls, which seems far more telling — and damning — about how the man conducts himself.
As Auburn hires Hugh Freeze, remember his past misdeeds go far beyond calling escorts
Auburn's hiring of head coach Hugh Freeze shows anything can be explained away in pursuit of victory.sports.yahoo.com
HornyWartyToad
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I never would have thought I'd be on Houston Nutt's side in any situation, but sure seems like he got hosed on that deal. Glad he had the resources to go after the truth.
ticketfrog123
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Great add? Houston and Cincy both look mediocre now that Utah / Arizonas and others are seriously looking to bolt.
Cincy’s biggest bowl win is the belk bowl. They’ve lost most of their big matchups.
Discount Boise in a slightly better location doesn’t do much for the conference. Most of their students wear OSU gear around campus anyway - don’t expect them to travel well
Spike
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Wait! I could get a hooker instead of pizza?
CountryFrog
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Will you be attending the Heisman ceremony with Max in a couple weeks?
ticketfrog123
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Yes - will you sit next to me. I’ll bring the PSL
Limey Frog
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Ohio is a good recruiting territory. In the past three decades they've had consistent success under Butch Jones, Brian Kelly, and Luke Fickell--three coaches shows that it's the school, not just the man. The program's 'upside' is really high, IMO. You can't say anything against Cincinnati that people didn't say against TCU. We won the Rose Bowl? They went to the CFP. Scoff if you want; I think it's a great add.
ticketfrog123
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The bowl wins are a huge difference. Boise did it, Cincy is 0-4 in big bowl games hence the belk bowl as their marquee win
I don’t think they’ll be relevant with NIL for too long. They don’t have fan base that is donating money to athletics - know plenty of alum with OSU season tickets
Cougar/Frog
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Can't Muck leave with all his sock puppets until after the season ends?
froginmn
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Just learned yesterday that the Uber Eats order I placed apparently got charged to my company card.
It was very easy to process the expense report to bill me personally.
Glad it wasn't hookers.
The Frog to be Named Later
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Just the twice. Was that wrong?
Limey Frog
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It's a different era. They played Alabama and Georgia the past two years. In the CFB era the small number of programs known to have a shot at gaining access to the Nick Saban Post-season Invitational have a massive recruiting advantage. When Georgia pummeled Oregon in Atlanta this September, the Ducks were a pre-season #7 going into the game but the difference in their roster's composite recruiting rankings was as great from Georgia as their's was to the school ranked #20. In other words, half-a-dozen programs can build NFL, Jr., rosters, while everyone else rest scraps for 'the best of the rest'. Heck, Georgia blasted Michigan worse than 'Bama beat Cincinnati last year: would Michigan be a bad pick up for the Big XII? They haven't won a major bowl game this century.
If TCU makes it to the CFP and gets blasted by Georgia, it won't mean a darn thing except that this iteration of the system is totally broken. If I'm going to say that for TCU, I'm going to say it for anyone; I'd say it for Texas Tech if they got there and were crushed. Cincinnati achieved a miracle in forcing their way in, no matter what. If TCU does the same, ditto.
ticketfrog123
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They got mopped in their bowl games in 2008 and 2009 with Brian Kelly. Literally the same handful of years as TCU and Boise
20-7 loss to VT and 51-24 loss to Florida
9-3 Cincinnati lost to 6-6 UNC 39-17 too in 2013
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Not exactly sure what you are saying but Michigan State and Washington both made the CFP within the first three years and their programs didn't seem to benefit at all. In fact , their programs seems to crater in the years following their CFP appearance.
The system has been in place since the beginning of college football. Each team has 85 scholarships but there is no player draft so the talent acquisition is hugely one-sided in favor of the programs with years and years of history, tradition and deep pockets. And the new rules only make the discrepancies between the have's and the have not's, time will tell. Now, trying to deal with 19-year old millionaires who have no real responsibilities will be tough and might backfire, we will see. But this era isn't any better or worse than any other era in terms of equity and inclusion, it's just in the past National Championships were given to teams that in some cases didn't even play a Top 7-8 team (or in BYU's case, a Top 20 team I believe), much less beat them.
Limey Frog
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Evidence suggests that a one-off appearance doesn't help much. The gap between the few 'haves' (which, as you say, has always been there and will always be) has grown significantly. Not only can the favored "blue bloods" now recruit greater concentrations of NFL-level talent than at any time since the 85 scholarship limit era, but the number of those programs is now less than it was even then, since only four programs account for most CFP appearances (and all but 2 CFP wins) in the entire decade since its inception.
'Bama, Clemson, Ohio State, Georgia, LSU, and Oregon are the only programs to have won a CFP game; Oklahoma, UW, MSU, FSU, Notre Dame, and Cincinnati are theo nly others to have made an appearance. Only 12 teams have played in the CFP, half of those have not won a game. Of 32 total berths to date, 6 schools account for 25; discounting Notre Dame, only 5 schools account for 23. Of 24 total wins, just 4 schools account for 21. The argument here is that a circular combination of the committee's presuppositions, pre-existing advances accentuated thereby, and top recruits' understanding that things will ever be thus has created a de facto monopoly that it is all-but impossible to crack (and one CFP appearance does not amount to cracking it or busting the system).
In other words, just making it at all is an achievement; breaking up the cartel on the field is a practical impossibility. You all-but literally cannot win.
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Ok, just for a minute get the 2014 TCU situation out of your head.
On what other occasion do you think a team (more specifically, a non blue blood team) got unfairly left out of the CFP? Those teams you mentioned are making the playoffs because they are winning games. Texas, USC, Texas A&M, Penn State and Florida have never made the playoffs, does that prove anything?
