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NewFrogFan

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nothing unique, the society of jesus which is the catholic order which is associated with the jesuits have educated some of the most liberal people i have ever known and i mean true liberals and not the street people of portland or the socialistic crowd

There is a difference? Do liberals openly condemn socialism and organizations that are led by Marxists and support terrorist that have slaughtered American Marines?
If they have, I might have missed that clip.
 

Eight

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There is a difference? Do liberals openly condemn socialism and organizations that are led by Marxists and support terrorist that have slaughtered American Marines?
If they have, I might have missed that clip.

one of the most liberal people i know served multiple tours in vietnam in the corp, is vehemently anti-abortion to the extent he and his wife give theirr their time with charities supporting adoption and unwed mothers, believes in the value of work, and lives the most balanced life i have watched and has done none of the things you project

that is the problem as we immediately apply the sins of some in a group to all of those in that group no different than the right gets linked with supremacist's, nazi's, and those who bombed abortion clinics because it was "god's will" which is crap

we have to stop the labels and work to find a solution. no different than those in power at tcu and schloss need to find solution to the issues that are preventing that relationship from moving forward.
 
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swimmerbabe11

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And she wonders why she gets so much [ #2020 ] on here.


I think Schloss needs a change of scenery. I want Sarloos or Heefner. If that is what we will do, I'll be happy. If we make a bad hire, then I'll be cranky about the whole thing.

I'm very consistent.

I was told something yesterday that gave me the impression that they are just waiting for the ink to dry.
 

CountryFrog

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I personally feel like it's extremely important for me to get as many of my religious, political, and social views into every single one of these threads. Not because I just want to but because I know that every single one of you cannot scheissing wait to get my opinions on these things so that you'll each know better how to move forward with your own lives.
 

Pharm Frog

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I think Schloss needs a change of scenery. I want Sarloos or Heefner. If that is what we will do, I'll be happy. If we make a bad hire, then I'll be cranky about the whole thing.

I'm very consistent.

I was told something yesterday that gave me the impression that they are just waiting for the ink to dry.

Aggies use crayons. Just kidding...or am I? Seriously though, nothing is DONE until it's officially DONE. Things fall through all the time. Could happen again. Might not. But to your premise...I completely agree with you.
 

toadallytexan

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I personally feel like it's extremely important for me to get as many of my religious, political, and social views into every single one of these threads. Not because I just want to but because I know that every single one of you cannot scheissing wait to get my opinions on these things so that you'll each know better how to move forward with your own lives.
Sort of a reverse litmus test?
 

swimmerbabe11

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Many on this board would consider the professors of religion at TCU to be a bunch of liberals if they actually talked to any of them.


my religion professor was a liberal lapsed Catholic who still professed to believe in God but hated Him. I took religions in Latin America, because I didn't trust any TCU prof to teach me anything about theology.
 

Eight

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I personally feel like it's extremely important for me to get as many of my religious, political, and social views into every single one of these threads. Not because I just want to but because I know that every single one of you cannot scheissing wait to get my opinions on these things so that you'll each know better how to move forward with your own lives.

feel free to share, site lives and dies off traffic
 

flyfishingfrog

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That's from your perspective, which seems like a purely economic one.

From THEIR perspective, they are judged by holding costs down, bringing money in, etc. This includes travel and equipment and facilities and a lot of other stuff in addition to the inflated tuition that goes into the budget as real dollars along with everything else that you would consider real dollars, though you apparently don't consider the tuition real dollars.

Steel has talked to college coaches about this, including Schloss; have YOU talked to anyone about this or are you just pulling things out of your dogbutt?

And certain of the powers that be also consider lost opportunity costs
I sat on the board at TCU that handles this concept for over 10 years....and I sit on it now at a State school....how about you?

Tuition dollars are only real when they are "paid" to the University. Beyond that it is a measurement bar that has only indirect correlation to the cost of attendance.

If we remove 10 full scholarship athletes from the football team - the bottom of the P&L statement at TCU does not go up $650k. The only direct costs saved are for food, books (or whatever they get now) and some level of reduction in the cost of housing based on maintenance, utilities, etc with less students. The deprecation of the capital asset does not decrease at all.

There is the potential to reduce faculty costs if we eliminated enough students to reduce faculty - given the size of the normal baseball roster - that would be about 2 faculty at the current student:teacher ratio.

There is a legitimate argument to be made for lost opportunity revenue for housing since we only have so many rooms at TCU. But that is really the only lost revenue because we don't cap the number of students down to a level that 30 players is going to change who and how many we let in - so there really is not "lost" tuition revenue from giving a tuition scholarship to a student.

So if you wanted to say we could reduce the cost of faculty about $400k by eliminating two lower level positions, we we would spend about $210k less per year in food and book costs (high but I will be conservative) and we would gain about $400k a year in additional housing revenue by not giving those rooms to baseball players - I would be willing to concede that the "real" costs of scholarships for our baseball team if we were fully funded is a little over $1 million/year.

That number is offset at TCU by the fact that we only get 11.7 scholarships and the remainder of the cost is "paid" by the athlete - which results in a tuition collected amount from players of about $1.1 million....

So basically the academic "cost" to TCU of having a baseball team with 11.7 scholarships is essentially ZERO because the paying players offset the scholarships.

And all of that has nothing to do with the level of capital investment that is required to be a top tier baseball program in D1 or the operating budget to run the actual program - which is where Schloss is focused.
 
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flyfishingfrog

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So back to the question at hand. When is this "decision" coming down? This thread could easily reach 100 pages in the meantime with speculation, religious POVs and who knows what. I hope this is done this week. I also hope no recruits follow him if he does leave. Isn't that a concern?
Feel like most of the players I talked to were recruited by and related to Saarloos or Mo - not Schloss when they decided on TCU - so not overly concerned about losing recruits.

Saarloos is more of the players coach on the team it seems - so that might also keep the existing guys here - but could also be an issue moving forward since sometimes its hard to make the difficult decision when you are too close to the team as an HC.
 

swimmerbabe11

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I have no ill will for schloss. I hope he does well if what I've heard is right.

I feel the same about Mazey and Whitting.

if Sarloos or Mosiello left, I would want them to find happiness and success wherever they go.

Unless of course we Play their teams, in which case I hope we run rule them ;)
 

Pharm Frog

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my religion professor was a liberal lapsed Catholic who still professed to believe in God but hated Him. I took religions in Latin America, because I didn't trust any TCU prof to teach me anything about theology.

Interesting...in a former “professional life” I published a paper on the influence of Jesuit theology in the American Southwest and Northern Mexico. Had to do almost all the research in primary documents and almost none were in English.
 

Eight

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I have no ill will for schloss. I hope he does well if what I've heard is right.

I feel the same about Mazey and Whitting.

if Sarloos or Mosiello left, I would want them to find happiness and success wherever they go.

Unless of course we Play their teams, in which case I hope we run rule them ;)

and if the ags play the frogs with saarloos and schloos in opposing dugouts?

is that an appropriate question to ask you gourd eating pain in the arse
 
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