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DMN: TCU confronts its history with the Confederacy, racism on campus

What Up Toad

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One of the problems is you can’t just have an academic discussion without racism being injected. If you ask a BLM backer if the math really shows endemic racism in police or just as in society there will always be idiots-you’re racist. If you agree that no one deserves to die over a traffic stop or warrant service, but point out if the vast majority of these people would be alive with a little polite compliance, not doing something illegal or otherwise causes them to intersect with police, not fighting, not trying to flee, et al, you are a racist. Pointing out that judging the actions of people in the past usually has no relation to the present, you’re a racist.

To say nothing has changed is just wrong. I can remember the days Frank’s Restaurant in Schulenburg, Tx having white and colored water fountains and restrooms, all white SWC, segregated high schools and state championships. It wasn’t that long ago (for me).

Until there is a little room for polite discussion from all sides, change will continue to move slowly.

There are plenty of people who support policing reform who will engage with you in an academic discussion if you're willing to be open to changing your views.

1. Does the math really show endemic racism in police or is it just a few bad apples?

Here's an article from John McWhorter, a black professor who tends to lean libertarian, where he purports that policing needs to be reformed, but that black people are not killed at a disproportionate rate compared to white people. He gives a number of reasons why black people are more likely to encounter police and why the narrative has continued, but he doesn't believe that police kill because of bigotry. He believes many of the issues come about because of poverty, and more black people are poor, proportionately.

https://quillette.com/2020/06/11/racist-police-violence-reconsidered/

2. The fast majority of these people wouldn't have encountered the police if they weren't doing something illegal.

Tim Scott, a black Republican senator, gave a speech a few years ago about the number of times he's been pulled over for driving too nice of a car. There are plenty of stories from black millionaires who said they were pulled over for "not looking like they belong there." There was a Louis Vuitton designer who was stopped and frisked because they didn't think he looked like the kind of person who should be carrying a LV shopping bag. Obviously these are all anecdotal examples, but the statistics also show that black people are profiled at a much higher rate.

https://www.cnn.com/2016/07/13/politics/tim-scott-police-racial-profiling/index.html

https://www.nber.org/papers/w26774

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41562-020-0858-1

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-st...fornia-cops-more-likely-to-stop-black-drivers

And most black people will gladly say that things are better than before, but that doesn't mean it shouldn't continue to improve.
 

Moose Stuff

Active Member
which version of ron howard?

this one?

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or this one?

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or this one?

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or finally this one?

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first or fourth one i can see being upset, second one would be a compliment, and the third one. don't get seen hanging around playgrounds or elementary schools

HAHAHA.... at the time it was the second one. It's now closer to the 4th though I would never rock that haircut.
 

froginaustin

Active Member
Henry Louis Gates was accosted by police outside his own house when he was trying to get in, by police thinking he must be a burglar. Him being a black man and his being a swanky neighborhood. In the backwater, reactionary town of Cambridge, MA.

Prof. Gates raised a big stink, too.
 

FrogSweep

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The verb "change" implies action must be taken to modify something. I see plenty of hateful actions being taken by leftists to "change" innocent people by calling them racists, doxing them, canceling them, destroying their livelihoods, killing them, and other such repugnant actions. Will such "change" produce more or less hate?
 

NewFrogFan

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I thought that overall this article was pretty positive toward TCU and the actions it is currently taking. I admit the "micro aggression" thing drives me crazy. But jeez, since I was around 16 (a long long time ago), I've thought the whole waving the Confederate Flag thing was just something stupid that dumbasses did; and have moved from that to believe it is overtly racist.

And waving a BLM, Antifa, ISIS flag is......?
 

Spike

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DMN: TCU confronts its history with the Confederacy, racism on campus

By Valeria Olivares

Freshman Brad Flick often sees Confederate flags hanging in the background of classmates’ rooms during his online classes at Texas Christian University.

Microaggressions — like phrases that include subtle discrimination or racial stereotypes — are a common occurrence for Black students like him, he said. Another Black student he knows was once told, “You talk really good for who you are,” he said.

“We don’t really talk about diversity as much as I think we should,” Flick, 19, said. “Without someone stepping in and educating and enlightening … TCU won’t change at all.”

Read more at https://www.dallasnews.com/news/edu...istory-with-the-confederacy-racism-on-campus/

How long ago was it that there were not many black students on campus? And how is the school guilty or the bad manners of a few of it's students?
 
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