they will block it out just like they do the Mavs games.
FSSW - Mavericks/Rangers
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they will block it out just like they do the Mavs games.
Eight
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this has been my experience, they black out the local team
hometown frog
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I’m hopeful they figure it out soon. The only reason I still have DTV right now is to keep the SW Regional sports channel.
Frozen Frog
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I actually think it is more likely that the teams leave whatever this new station is called. The revenue is based on viewers and advertisers. If that is non-existent then what do the teams and network gain from being on the RSN. By sticking with the current RSN the local teams soon will have to fight for local audiences and fans with the teams being shown on the national broadcasts. As a result you could see a lot of local fans who should be fans of their local teams turn to other teams that are on TV more often. That cuts in to to the teams direct revenue streams.
The Artist Formerly Known as PhormerPhrog
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The RSNs pay the teams. It's up to the network to make up their payment and make a profit through ad and distributorship. Guarantee you DTV is paying Sinclair a lot of money to keep Balleys off most platforms. I've been getting DTV calls 5 times a day for the last week.
FrogAbroad
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Love me the Mute button on the remote.
OmniscienceFrog
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How about "Wet Teddy Bears"?
Exactly they are shooting themselves in the foot. There's a big difference between passively putting on a Rangers game on a Tuesday night in July when nothing else is on TV, and actively having to subscribe and pay $5-10/month to watch them. Going to kill any casual fans that may tune in for 5-10 games a year and leave just a die hard base, which for baseball is shrinking by the year.
Really put this into perspective this time last year when there was no sports. Lot of people realized their time could be filled just as easily with netflicks/hulu/reading/sleeping vs tuning in to the mediocre local baseball/hockey/basketball teams. Ratings were down across the spectrum when sports came back last fall for a variety of reasons, however will be interesting to see if the rebound 1-2 years down the line once everything is back to normal. My guess is no.
Frozen Frog
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For the casual fan of a team or the sports fan that enjoys watching games this is going to be a big issue. Do you pay extra to watch your local team that may be mediocre to bad or do you watch the national televised game that you already have on your plan? Do you care if it is the Yankees vs. any team, or do you have to watch the Rangers? Is it going to be your local MLB team, or can you watch a KBO game?
I definitely could see a situation where teams start to do their own programming and sell you a subscription to watch their games alone under various platforms. Sounds like buying tickets and even season tickets except to watch the televised broadcasts.
I remember when you could watch a Cubs game every day and a Braves or White Sucks game every night. People became fans of those teams because they could watch them. That has to scare some of the local owners.
BrewingFrog
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I concur. Once those viewers are gone, they are gone for good.
I cannot understand why the lure of "milk the fans for every penny we can right now!" continues, even though they have to know that they are annihilating their fan base. I mean, the Wokeness, the advertising (which was the straw that broke my viewing back), the constant hunt for the channel your team is on, and now they want to fleece you directly.
I don't really care enough to look it up, but I would bet that the MLB audience skews towards older folks. Younger sorts find the game "boring" we are told, thus the rules changes to "speed things up." As you point out, that Die Hard Base is dwindling for a variety of reasons, and these actions by MLB will only alienate that Base even more. It is sad, but it is like watching an addict drive away his loved ones in the last throes of a dark journey towards an inevitable suicide.
I used to love baseball.
Yeah I'm the same way. When I was growing up I probably went to 5-10 Rangers games a year, and probably watched at least parts of another 50 games on TV with my dad. Used to know all the players, stats, even upcoming prospects. I'm 35 now, and wouldn't dream of paying $5-10 a month to watch them, especially considering the blatant tanking going on.
Just comparing to College Ball, I love the frogs but I'm not shelling out $9.99/month or whatever it is just to watch them on ESPN+.
Looking at a box score is all I need to get my fill of baseball. I don't have Ranger games right now and don't miss it one bit, and it wouldn't make a difference if they were good. Haven 't watched a pitch of a baseball game this year.
BrewingFrog
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Heh. I shell out the $6 a month for ESPN+ simply because I enjoy watching the Frogs and College Ball in general, and I get to see a lot of it that way. There is a vast amount of content on there, and though I watch very little of what is offered (Cricket? Seriously?), it's nice to have options. There's even been football now and again (Thanks, COVID!).
That being said, the difference between the crass commercialism of MLB and the humble nature of College Ball is enormous. I hope it stays that way. It won't, of course, but one can dream...
I am not going to get into your entire post, but this stands out. The biggest issue is that ownership groups change very frequently. Aside from 5-10 MLB owners, the others are random ownership groups that are in and out in about 5 years. All they care about is milking the fans out of money. They do not care about the long term health of the league.
flyfishingfrog
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PPV definitely killed boxing - each event became really profitable for the production company in the short term - but the overall sport died because no one wanted to pay to see anything but the top of the sport performances.
Would be like if you had to pay for each game during the season and playoffs in a sport - a lot of people would only opt to watch the playoffs and some the finals - so all the teams that didn't make it that far would lose viewers and eventually fan support.
Interesting problem since the economics of even televising a support are traditionally largely based on advertising revenue - not subscriptions fees - and as number of viewers, ad revenue will go down at a rate most likely faster than viewers are willing to pay to subscribe to the event.
TopFrog
Lifelong Frog
Rangers and Astros are blacked out for live viewing. You can watch an archived version 90 minutes after the game ends. No thanks.
Eight
Member
"I cannot understand why the lure of "milk the fans for every penny we can right now!" continues"
why? because networks continue to pay stupid money for the content and fans keep coming back.
BrewingFrog
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A thing that can't go on, won't go on.
Eight
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you did see what the nfl just got offered in their last broadcast rights auction?
BrewingFrog
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Nope. Don't care.
If Amazon wants to piss away billions bidding on a dying League, let them. I won't be watching. And, while Amazon can afford to lose billions, they won't keep doing so for no good reason. When they drop out, there will be no one left who would pay such an exorbitant rate for a low-production outfit like the Woke NFL.
In a relatively short span of time, the Big Three Pro Sports have managed to drive away roughly half their audience. That audience isn't coming back.
