THE NEW BIG 16 CONFERENCE (Pac12 fans are arrogantly discussing)

[Realtorfrog]

PAC 12 is nowhere near being dead. Too many very very prestigious college football programs in that conference.

Their Commissioner will most likely try to pull off some sneaky back door secret merger with Big12 at some point.

And multiple schools will get left out in a sneaky little behind the scenes scheme that will turn out to be pretty doggone sneaky, dishonest, and backstabbing.

Remember, these are Californian DEM LIBERALS running that Conference. Which means they are disgusting human beings.

You might want to keep that in mind before you assume Pac12 is dead

I’m a proud disgusting human being!!

 

[TCUdirtbag]

You are certainly entitled to your opinion and good for you......but.......what is this “PAC12 HAS NO LEVERAGE” thingie you are talking about ? I dont understand ?

FACT: BIG12 has absolutely zero leverage because Big12 has put out feelers to Pac12 teams and...NONE OF THEM...are even remotely interested in Big12.

Fiction

FACT: OKLAHOMA is known to have been out seeking greener pastures multiple times (and probably still is looking)....and TEXAS has stated if OU leaves TEXAS will leave also.

Define “OU” and “Texas”. The institutions and/or its leaders? Mostly fiction.

FACT: No Pac12 team is interested in leaving that conference. They are all very tight with each other and other Conferences have tried with zero success to pry them away and none of the Pac12 teams will even listen.

The “no” / “none” ultimatum language makes this claim fiction, too.

FACT: TEXAS TECH has said they will follow tho Longhorns and OKIE ST has stated they will follow Sooners if and when they leave.

“Will”? Fiction. “Want to.” Fact.

FACT: OKLAHOMA Athletic Director hascststed publicly he personally would love an affiliation with California schools to increase recruiting on West Coast. He loves the idea and has said it publicly. He stated he thinks the National TV audience would like to see games like USC vs OU and OREGON vs OU. He also likes the idea of OU in the Rose Bowl game more often, and playing USC and UCLA in the Rose Bowl stadium forctheir home games.

Feel free to link said quotes. Fact is, TV $ shows people would rather watch OU-K-State.

Sounds to me like Big12’s entire future hinges on one Athletic Director’s whim. If OU leaves the entire Big12 Conference collapses.

An AD’s whim doesn’t allow a college to change affiliations. While it’s true that OU leaving would probably lead the league to collapse, this whole post has been an exercise in hyperbole.

Explain to us all again this great “LEVERAGE” thingie you claim the Big12 has ?

Please go into detail so we can all be smarter. Thanks in advance.

It’s not hard to understand: Big 12 $$$ > Pac 12 $$

 

[y2kFrog]

After living on the west coast for five years, I can easily say the PAC 8/10/12 is and always has been a regional conference. This is why the TV network did not do as well as other conference network. I can also tell you that Texas and OU will never get along with any of the PAC schools so there is 0 percent chance of any of this happening.

 

[Eight]

who am i?​

 

[helcap]

I'm amazed at how many people think Kansas has huge value to a conference because of their basketball program. These conference moves are all about TV money and TV money is decided almost entirely by football. The Kansas basketball program would only actually bring value to a G5 conference that isn't getting much TV money to begin with. The idea that a conference like the Big 10 is craving the Kansas basketball program is ludicrous as they add zero value to the TV deal beyond just extra inventory with more games.

Kansas was an eyelash away from joining the Mountain West during the last round of expansion because of how little value they actually bring to a conference. While the KU basketball brand makes a ton of money for itself through merchandising and its own fanbase buying up tickets, streaming service, and giving massive donations; the value they bring to a conference is very little because they don't impact the football TV money. Basketball TV money is a tiny thing compared to football for these P5 conferences and its not like the Big 10 doesn't already have valuable basketball properties as it is.

And mentioning the TCU baseball brand is even more meaningless. Absolutely no one gives two [ #2020 ]s about college baseball on a national level.

Kanasa in football brings an automatic conference win to existing members. That has to be worth something

 

[WyomingFrog]

Your abject stupidity isn’t a surprise. Bragging about you ignorance makes you a total azzzclown. Here is what you engendered as a Liberal Dem fool:

1) Over 100,000 illegal immigrants are now flooding into this country each month (up from 65,000 a month in Feb). The whole countries of Honduras and Nicaragua are on the way to USA now in massive caravans. Thanks DEMS !

2) Your Liberal Dem comrades are meeting them at border and telling them how to “game the system” and go to hospitals for free medical care (hospitals are forced to care for sick aliens and are not allowed to turn them away). Hospitals in Texas are already facing bankruptcy. “Gaming the system” is actually destroying it for Americans. Thanks DEMS !!

3) Some states are now predicting water and food shortages if this massive flood of immigrants continues - which DEMS have stated they will not stop it. Thanks DEMS !!

4) Biden has stated that all illegal immigrants will be eligible for Social Security. That will bankrupt the system in 2030 or earlier if immigrants keep flooding in. Thanks DEMS !

5) Power grids cannot keep up with this flood of people into country and DEMS are proposing a large ENERGY PENALTY TAX for anyone who drives an SUV or has a home more than 2000 sq ft. Thanks DEMS !

6) Biden is raising taxes and will also propose a REPARATIONS PAYMENT to all African Americans. Everyone else will pay for that with much higher taxes. Thanks DEMS !

Mr RealtorFrog - you sir are obtuse !

Have a very nice Marxist-Socialist day !

I’m a proud disgusting human being!!

 

[WyomingFrog]

Riiiiiighhht !!

“NO CHANCE” you say ?

As in NO CHANCE Tcu gets left behind in 1996 when B12 was formed ?

As in NO CHANCE Byu would destroy the WAC Conference ?

As in NO CHANCE teams would sign a back door deal to leave auto- bid BigEast Conference ?

As in NO CHANCE UConn would be left wandering aimlessly with no Conference ?

As in NO CHANCE that SMU would be thrown to the curb (with RICE and UH)?

As in NO CHANCE Nebraska would ever leave B12 ?

As in NO CHANCE Mizzou would ever leave B12 ?

Your “ZERO % CHANCE” statement actually has ZERO % chance of being truthful.

Thanks and have a ZERO % day !!

After living on the west coast for five years, I can easily say the PAC 8/10/12 is and always has been a regional conference. This is why the TV network did not do as well as other conference network. I can also tell you that Texas and OU will never get along with any of the PAC schools so there is 0 percent chance of any of this happening.

 

[MCFROG III]

who am i?​

Ricky

 

[Putt4Purple]

The time difference just kills the PAC from a Tv standpoint. 7pm pacific kicks are too late for the East and Central time zones with regards to your average viewer. I think that’s part of the reason they’re struggling. The main population hubs are pro centric and I think most fans prefer to watch pro over USC & UCLA.

Nobody really cares about watching Cal or Stanford football in California.

This! Is the key to unlock the disparity. The time differential. Most people in the Eastern and Central time zones are busy on Saturday afternoons with their own games or functions. Late night games are fun but eyeballs on a late Saturday night are fun but not for networking eyes. Play more day games with maybe 2 evenings games
Not sure if this is final solution but there it is.

 

[y2kFrog]

Riiiiiighhht !!

“NO CHANCE” you say ?

As in NO CHANCE Tcu gets left behind in 1996 when B12 was formed ?

As in NO CHANCE Byu would destroy the WAC Conference ?

As in NO CHANCE teams would sign a back door deal to leave auto- bid BigEast Conference ?

As in NO CHANCE UConn would be left wandering aimlessly with no Conference ?

As in NO CHANCE that SMU would be thrown to the curb (with RICE and UH)?

As in NO CHANCE Nebraska would ever leave B12 ?

As in NO CHANCE Mizzou would ever leave B12 ?

Your “ZERO % CHANCE” statement actually has ZERO % chance of being truthful.

Thanks and have a ZERO % day !!

There so little a chance that it’s probably negative.

 

[Realtorfrog]

Your abject stupidity isn’t a surprise. Bragging about you ignorance makes you a total azzzclown. Here is what you engendered as a Liberal Dem fool:

1) Over 100,000 illegal immigrants are now flooding into this country each month (up from 65,000 a month in Feb). The whole countries of Honduras and Nicaragua are on the way to USA now in massive caravans. Thanks DEMS !

2) Your Liberal Dem comrades are meeting them at border and telling them how to “game the system” and go to hospitals for free medical care (hospitals are forced to care for sick aliens and are not allowed to turn them away). Hospitals in Texas are already facing bankruptcy. “Gaming the system” is actually destroying it for Americans. Thanks DEMS !!

3) Some states are now predicting water and food shortages if this massive flood of immigrants continues - which DEMS have stated they will not stop it. Thanks DEMS !!

4) Biden has stated that all illegal immigrants will be eligible for Social Security. That will bankrupt the system in 2030 or earlier if immigrants keep flooding in. Thanks DEMS !

5) Power grids cannot keep up with this flood of people into country and DEMS are proposing a large ENERGY PENALTY TAX for anyone who drives an SUV or has a home more than 2000 sq ft. Thanks DEMS !

6) Biden is raising taxes and will also propose a REPARATIONS PAYMENT to all African Americans. Everyone else will pay for that with much higher taxes. Thanks DEMS !

Mr RealtorFrog - you sir are obtuse !

Have a very nice Marxist-Socialist day !

Thanks for the long response that’s 99.3% false. But I know Trumpublicans live with blinders so I’m not surprised.

 

[HG73]

(according to arrogant Californicators - who by the way - are abandoning their own State in massive numbers - and relocating to Texas - and - voting for same kind of DEM LIBERAL AzzzHo’s who made their state a shiii(Baylor)t hole))

BIG 16 Conference (new name being discussed is PACWEST 16)

Pacific Division
USC
UCLA
OREGON
OREGON ST
WASHINGTON
WASHINGTON ST
CAL
STANFORD

West Division
COLORADO
UTAH
ARIZONA
ARIZONA ST
TEXAS
TEXAS TECH
OKLAHOMA
OKLAHOMA ST


The Californicators then suggest a Little League Conference lineup (not P5) of the following 16 PeeWee teams as they call them. How nice of them to show such consideration to help us dirty little PeeWees to form a Conference for us Little League weenies. Aint they nice. Below is their suggested PeeWee League for those who get left out of Big16 BigTime Power League.

AMERICAN 16 Conference

Mountain Division
COLORADO ST
AIR FORCE
BOISE ST
BYU (or UTAH ST if BYU declines)
NEW MEXICO
HOUSTON
MEMPHIS
TULSA

Central Division
TCU
SMU
TULANE
BAYLOR
IOWA ST
KANSAS ST
SOUTH FLA
NAVY

Ain’t those CalifHornies very sweet folks to think of us like this ? How nice !!

PAC teams will never affiliate with Tech or Oklahoma A&M. Ever. Their academic standards prohibit that.

 

[Eight]

Ricky

aka wyoming frog

 

[hiphopfroggy]

After living on the west coast for five years, I can easily say the PAC 8/10/12 is and always has been a regional conference. This is why the TV network did not do as well as other conference network. I can also tell you that Texas and OU will never get along with any of the PAC schools so there is 0 percent chance of any of this happening.

Wait, you have lived on the west coast for 5 years? Welp that settles it then, the Pac is doing just fine.

 

[Jefffrog1993]

I think Washington and Oregon have a high value, USC does too. I hate UCLA, but the are a known brand. I wonder if you need both to get the LA market? So we only need four teams do we take the Arizona schools plus LA teams or Washington and Oregon?

 

[y2kFrog]

Wait, you have lived on the west coast for 5 years? Welp that settles it then, the Pac is doing just fine.

Not saying the PAC is not doing fine overall, in fact I still like watching random PAC12 games. Just saying they are a regional conference, just as the Big 12 is a regional conference. Each could have a partnership to the benefit of both, but the schools in each conference will never find common ground an anything...see how COVID was handled by each conference.

 

[froginaustin]

PAC teams will never affiliate with Tech or Oklahoma A&M. Ever. Their academic standards prohibit that.

No conference that has Az State, Oregon State, or even U of Oregon or U Utah can be too snooty about academics. PAC = Ivy? Hardly.

 

[nwlafrog]

who am i?​

I haven’t been able to say “Raccoons” ever since I heard Ricky call them “Raykins”

 

[ftwfrog]

Even Steelfrog himself can’t believe this dumbass thread made it past page 1.

 

[WyomingFrog]

This is EXACTLY why you can’t trust any DEM LIB. They are bald-faced liars, all of them.

REALTORFROG (a total shi(Baylor)tHead) says it is 99% false that 100,000 migrants are hitting our borders every month. What a dammm liar this guy is. Not only a DEM LIB liar but a dammm low life liar ! He supports Socialist agendas that have never ever worked in history of mankind. What a dunce !

Read below Mr Liar Boy. And....have a nice Marxist Socialist Day Comrade !!

SAT MAR 6, 2021 / 1:41 AM EST
U.S. detained nearly 100,000 migrants then released them at Mexico border in February, sources say
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WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. border agents detained nearly 100,000 migrants at the U.S.-Mexico border in February, and according to current US policy released them into US according to two people familiar with preliminary figures, the shocking highest monthly total since a major border surge in mid-2019.

www.reuters.com

Thanks for the long response that’s 99.3% false. But I know Trumpublicans live with blinders so I’m not surprised.