Time to earn a paycheck Donati
- Thread starter MinFrog
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Long Time Lurker
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We have to change now and start winning before GOR is being negotiated.
Moose Stuff
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I am officially done with Gary. Time for change. I don't expect it but that's how I feel.
AustinFrog
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I grew up with an uncle who was a career assistant so I know how bad it can get for coaches and their families. It is with a heavy heart that I have to agree, it is time.
Strat Frog
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Gary to stay next year but the entire offensive staff must turnover and a wholly new scheme enacted. ADJD must have that conversation with Gary and force change. Big donors also need to raise hell.
Pharm Frog
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So GP fires Kill? Ha!
AustinFrog
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Hire a real OC and give him authority to assemble his own staff. I would try the UC OC, make him OC and assistant HC(HC in waiting).
Rule 1 in college coaching: a HC will do anything staffwise that helps him win more and secure greater job security. They scan the country looking for assistants that will help them win. Nobody wants our assistants. That should tell you all you need to know.
Rule 1 in college coaching: a HC will do anything staffwise that helps him win more and secure greater job security. They scan the country looking for assistants that will help them win. Nobody wants our assistants. That should tell you all you need to know.
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watchoutforthelizard
Turd
Gary needs to go. There is something wrong with the program and it starts at top. He has grown very stale and his methods no longer work. The definition of insanity is doing same thing over and over expecting a different result. Sadly Gary has tenure for lack of better description and will not be let go. Instead he seems perfectly comfortable running this program into the ground by not adjusting his methods. Get ready to usher in a new era of bad to mediocrity TCU football. TCU doesn’t get good again until Gary is gone. Between coaches, injuries, transfers, recruiting bust TCU is a dumpster fire right now. Think about this, SMU has much more competent program than TCU and forecast to widen that lead next few years.
YA
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Patterson isn’t going anywhere this year guys for what it is worth. Too many built in excuses. I just hope we don’t lose a ton of talent that is being underutilized with the free transfer. If that happens next year will be worse.
If next year we see the same team effort from the coaches TCU will move to remove coach P.
If next year we see the same team effort from the coaches TCU will move to remove coach P.
JAB331
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I think he gets another season, and I'm in support of that given everything. But if he can't post .500 or better next year, then he retires. We can likely buy him out of his contract at a discount and use the savings to get a good up-and-coming coack like Kansas ST and WVU did.
I don't think you can have him overhaul the OC staff, you need to give him two seasons to let this current staff play out. I personally think he'll fail, but hey, having people doubt him is where he performs best, so maybe I'm just doing my part.
If we do get a new coach, I don't think it should be someone who yells at their players and staff, but is loyal long term - instead it should be someone who respects everyone on the field but holds them accountable to performance standards regardless of their personal situation.
I don't think you can have him overhaul the OC staff, you need to give him two seasons to let this current staff play out. I personally think he'll fail, but hey, having people doubt him is where he performs best, so maybe I'm just doing my part.
If we do get a new coach, I don't think it should be someone who yells at their players and staff, but is loyal long term - instead it should be someone who respects everyone on the field but holds them accountable to performance standards regardless of their personal situation.
Pharm Frog
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Some of you were saying in 2018....”Well let’s give him a chance to turn this around because he’s earned that.” Some said in 2019...”Let’s give him a chance to turn things around in 2020.” Now some are saying in 2020.....
This is it in a nutshell...horrid mistake to give the 2024 extension or whatever it is. That was the crossroads and we took the path we wanted to at that time.
This is it in a nutshell...horrid mistake to give the 2024 extension or whatever it is. That was the crossroads and we took the path we wanted to at that time.
JAB331
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I don't disagree, but I don't think you can "retire" him during COVID - it's bad PR and could adversely affect our coaching search. I don't think anything will change with a new OC, better to just give him one full regular year with his last staff experiment and cut our losses if it doesn't work out.
Oh please bad PR? First, no one cares. Second, he’s had one of the longest ropes in all of college football and is top ten paid to field a top 50 program, barely. Should have made a move last year so the new coach could have worked out the kinks in this waste of a year. Should have made the move the year before too. Hope we aren’t still playing this game 3 years from now.
BrewingFrog
Was I supposed to type something here?
We have two games remaining: A road game at Kansas (Considering what we saw today, that's an iffy one), and at home against Ok. State. Ok. State will annihilate us. If we do indeed play the SMU match, we lose.
So, what we got left is 1-1, or 0-2, and then with the potential SMU match, 1-2, or 0-3. That isn't a very good outcome from a team we expected to at least not step on their pecker.
So, what we got left is 1-1, or 0-2, and then with the potential SMU match, 1-2, or 0-3. That isn't a very good outcome from a team we expected to at least not step on their pecker.
Bruce Berry
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He needs to go but is untouchable and will never retire.
It's beyond depressing and its going to get worse in my view.
It's beyond depressing and its going to get worse in my view.
